Originally posted by googoomuck:Haha...you are entitled to your own opinion.
I see that most nations were careful with the choice of words except the US, Japan and Poland. The US no need to comment. The terrorists targetted US citizens. A Japanese was already confirmed dead. Any Polish held hostage?
27 NOV - An Indian news channel reported yesterday that the terrorists had held the woman at gun point and told her to relay to Singapore diplomats this message: Tell the Mumbai authorities to refrain from acting against them - or lose her life.
I will still say that there's a right time to to use such strong words " Singapore stands firmly behind the Indian government in its fight against terrorism" in a situation like this, but not on the same day or even earlier when she was still held captive.
The Singapore used it at an impropriate time. Perhaps the govt had no intention to negotiate the safe release of the hostage, thus her fate was sealed.
Israeli FM Tzipi Livni was careful with her statement because she knew Jewish lives were at stake. This is simple and basic PR strategy.
yeah, right, trust the terrorist to keep their word. your example of Isreali in full is something like this.
Israel terms attacks ‘painful’
Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni said, "I condemn the terror attack that is still ongoing in Mumbai it is another painful testimony that terrorism is the main challenge that Israel and the International community are dealing with."
No negotiation with terrorists. Period.
Originally posted by googoomuck:Singapore shows solidarity
The Singaporean government said, "Singapore strongly condemns the attacks. We would like to convey our deepest condolences to the victims, their families, the government of India and its people. The Mumbai attacks underscore the common terrorist threat that we continue to face today. Singapore stands firmly behind the Indian government in its fight against terrorism."
It is indeed laughable that a fascist regime could openly proclaim that an entire nation is mourning the loss of a victim of a terror act when there are others terrorised by the perpetrators of the regime itself. Talk about double-speak...
Now, who's expressing condolences and sympathies to those who are the subject of terrorist acts through the various modes of persecution by terrorists that come in the form of governments?
Or are terrorists in the form of governents not exactly terrorists? ![]()
Originally posted by walesa:
It is indeed laughable that a fascist regime could openly proclaim that an entire nation is mourning the loss of a victim of a terror act when there are others terrorised by the perpetrators of the regime itself. Talk about double-speak...Now, who's expressing condolences and sympathies to those who are the subject of terrorist acts through the various modes of persecution by terrorists that come in the form of governments?
Or are terrorists in the form of governents not exactly terrorists?
aiya... our ghamen good at condemn terrorist for carnage and express disappointment for job loss if not is complacent over selamat case or honest mistake in wrong investment.......
wat else?
Originally posted by skythewood:
why are you living under a terrorist government? run for your life.
By your argument, why don't you try explaining why aren't 22.9 million North Koreans running for their lives?
Or are you insinuating they're all living in paradise? ![]()
Originally posted by walesa:
By your argument, why don't you try explaining why aren't 22.9 million North Koreans running for their lives?Or are you insinuating they're all living in paradise?
Because their neighbours (China/Korea/Japan) don't want them? They don't really have much choice.
Originally posted by walesa:
It is indeed laughable that a fascist regime could openly proclaim that an entire nation is mourning the loss of a victim of a terror act when there are others terrorised by the perpetrators of the regime itself. Talk about double-speak...Now, who's expressing condolences and sympathies to those who are the subject of terrorist acts through the various modes of persecution by terrorists that come in the form of governments?
Or are terrorists in the form of governents not exactly terrorists?
why is it funny for the people of Singapore to mourn for the late Miss Ho, one of our own fellow Singaporean killed by terrorists who intended to kill the british and the americans? she was not terrorised when she was back in Singapore, and she is not one of the perpetrators of the regime. May be we should not feel sorry for the British and the american who were killed in Mumbai. You should ask why those people wanted to single out the american and the british, what have the american and the british done to force young people to take up arms and give up their lives?
judge our government anyway you like, we the people of Singapore don't need sympathies from you. We are not living in paradize but we are not running for our life. ![]()
Originally posted by walesa:
By your argument, why don't you try explaining why aren't 22.9 million North Koreans running for their lives?Or are you insinuating they're all living in paradise?
they are running for their lifes. so many people trying to escape to south korea... the government has to stopping them from leaving.
your logic fail.
The killing of one of ours, is Long Time Coming...
Totally unsurprised...
Originally posted by rain-coat:we cant say we must not fear terrorist, cos the truth is that we will!
how can you not fear someone who killed your fellow countrymen and that you could be next.
whats crucial is that we must stop terrorist idealogies from spreading
Impossible unless you want to play Chairman Yang of Alpha Centuri fame.
Originally posted by HyperFocal:The killing of one of ours, is Long Time Coming...
Totally unsurprised...
you make it sound like killing the singaporean is the main objective, and not collatoral damage.
Heh i wouldn't be surprised if the terrorists didn't even knew what Singapore is.
I find it rather hilarious at the suggestion that the terrorists in India are interested in what Singapore thinks of them.
Originally posted by skythewood:they are running for their lifes. so many people trying to escape to south korea... the government has to stopping them from leaving.
your logic fail.
You're deluded. Failing which, you must be arithmetically challenged. Or both. Your logic hasn't even come remotely close to taking off to begin with.
Try working out the maths on those who have defected to their existing population - if you need help with basic arithmetic, you could always rely on a small little device called a calculator...
Originally posted by sgdiehard:why is it funny for the people of Singapore to mourn for the late Miss Ho, one of our own fellow Singaporean killed by terrorists who intended to kill the british and the americans? she was not terrorised when she was back in Singapore, and she is not one of the perpetrators of the regime. May be we should not feel sorry for the British and the american who were killed in Mumbai. You should ask why those people wanted to single out the american and the british, what have the american and the british done to force young people to take up arms and give up their lives?
judge our government anyway you like, we the people of Singapore don't need sympathies from you. We are not living in paradize but we are not running for our life.
Speaking of which, the majority of Chinese, Burmese, Vietnamese, Cubans, Libyans, Iranians, Eritreans, Somali and North Koreans too aren't running for their lives.
So, I suppose on that token, they must be really pleased with their governments?
Originally posted by walesa:
Speaking of which, the majority of Chinese, Burmese, Vietnamese, Cubans, Libyans, Iranians, Eritreans, Somali and North Koreans too aren't running for their lives.
So, I suppose on that token, they must be really pleased with their governments?
well, the indians have moved to England, together with other southern Asian, that doesn't mean they were unhappy with their governments, afterall, India is the largest democracy in the world, or do they like their colonial master better? In this globalized world, people moved from one country to another, most like to countries with bigger land for greater space and better opportunities, like in the US, Canada and the Australia.
I dont' agree with the statement that people move because they don't like their government or they don't move because they like their government, too simplistic for my down to earth mind.
My only question is, what is it so laughable when all Singaporeans mourn for the death of one of our own? she was killed tragically as collacteral damage when the gunners were targeting the americans and the brits? do the americans and the brits mourn for those who died on their behalf?
Originally posted by walesa:
You're deluded. Failing which, you must be arithmetically challenged. Or both. Your logic hasn't even come remotely close to taking off to begin with.Try working out the maths on those who have defected to their existing population - if you need help with basic arithmetic, you could always rely on a small little device called a calculator...
Originally posted by walesa:
Speaking of which, the majority of Chinese, Burmese, Vietnamese, Cubans, Libyans, Iranians, Eritreans, Somali and North Koreans too aren't running for their lives.
So, I suppose on that token, they must be really pleased with their governments?
Originally posted by sgdiehard:well, the indians have moved to England, together with other southern Asian, that doesn't mean they were unhappy with their governments, afterall, India is the largest democracy in the world, or do they like their colonial master better? In this globalized world, people moved from one country to another, most like to countries with bigger land for greater space and better opportunities, like in the US, Canada and the Australia.
I dont' agree with the statement that people move because they don't like their government or they don't move because they like their government, too simplistic for my down to earth mind.
My only question is, what is it so laughable when all Singaporeans mourn for the death of one of our own? she was killed tragically as collacteral damage when the gunners were targeting the americans and the brits? do the americans and the brits mourn for those who died on their behalf?
Your simplistic, down-to-earth mind is indeed nothing but a paradox of contradictions.
So, taking your equally laughable example of "Indians moving to England" for "greater space and better opportunities", why aren't you seeing this lot publicly expressing their collective condolences to their compatriots who are effectively "one of their own"? Or are they lesser Indians or folks completely distant from their counterparts who perished in Mumbai?
Another classic case of shooting yourself in the foot, perhaps? ![]()
And try explaining why it shouldn't be laughable when you've got fascists expressing their condolences on the behalf of a regime...I mean nation...who are themselves guilty of perpetuating the activities for which the decease was a victim?
Originally posted by skythewood:
there are people with guns with orders to shoot people who dare run across to the other side, retard. logic fail.
And what would your moronic and grossly handicapped intellect tell you? Those who couldn't escape the looneys firing deserve to die? ![]()
Originally posted by skythewood:
wah, you list any country mean the country government is terrorist ah. in what way are they terrorist, you tell me.
Are you retarded? ![]()
First, you challenged my notion on North Korea and claimed that the fact there are tonnes of people seeking asylum would suggest that North Koreans are indeed "running for their lives" from a regime that terrorises.
Now, in a desperate bid to unwind your folly, you claim ignorance on "any country government" I listed being terrorist?
So, to set the record straight, I did claim that the North Korean government - just one of many I mentioned - is indeed terrorising its populace. So, why don't you tell me "in what way are they terrorist"? Failing which (which would be perfectly understandable given your unsurpassed level of idiocy), maybe you could try explaining why you thought many North Koreans are actually seeking asylum from the land of paradise? ![]()
Originally posted by walesa:
Your simplistic, down-to-earth mind is indeed nothing but a paradox of contradictions.So, taking your equally laughable example of "Indians moving to England" for "greater space and better opportunities", why aren't you seeing this lot publicly expressing their collective condolences to their compatriots who are effectively "one of their own"? Or are they lesser Indians or folks completely distant from their counterparts who perished in Mumbai?
Another classic case of shooting yourself in the foot, perhaps?
And try explaining why it shouldn't be laughable when you've got fascists expressing their condolences on the behalf of a regime...I mean nation...who are themselves guilty of perpetuating the activities for which the decease was a victim?
The lot of indians who moved to england are english now, they would be shot if they showed their british passport. or they are always indian that belong to india? who are their compatriots? having moved to england and lived there for decades, are they compatriots of the british or the indian?
the young lady lawyer, just happily married and started a new and happy life, was killed in a distant land, to think that she was a victim of the activities in her country, instead of the terrorists, is truely ridiculous, insensitive and out of your mind. Just remember, she didn't deserve to die, the indians, japanese, australian, italian...all didn't deserve to die, the gunners were looking for the americans and the british. your turn will come.
racists like you will never understand why young boys would take up arms and prepared to die in order to inflict maximum casualities to people like you. you just have to wait for your turn.
Originally posted by walesa:
Are you retarded?
First, you challenged my notion on North Korea and claimed that the fact there are tonnes of people seeking asylum would suggest that North Koreans are indeed "running for their lives" from a regime that terrorises.
Now, in a desperate bid to unwind your folly, you claim ignorance on "any country government" I listed being terrorist?
So, to set the record straight, I did claim that the North Korean government - just one of many I mentioned - is indeed terrorising its populace. So, why don't you tell me "in what way are they terrorist"? Failing which (which would be perfectly understandable given your unsurpassed level of idiocy), maybe you could try explaining why you thought many North Koreans are actually seeking asylum from the land of paradise?
so long post still never say how they are terrorist, and ask me back the same question.
What a retard.
Originally posted by walesa:And what would your moronic and grossly handicapped intellect tell you? Those who couldn't escape the looneys firing deserve to die?
what talking you? which part of they can't run because the govenment will kill them do you not understand?
Originally posted by skythewood:what talking you? which part of they can't run because the govenment will kill them do you not understand?
the brits only remember that when the people in India, pakistan, Malaysia, Singapore....didn't like the brits government, it was the government who had to run. hahaha...
they are still mourning....licking their wounds...