Chia Thye poh was held by ISA for 23 years imprisonment and 9 years house arrest in Sentosa, without charge or trial. there were others like him, but they were released after they agreed to sign a document to renounce violence and sever ties, if any, with the Communist Party of Malaya.(CPM)
Chia was given the same deal, but he refused to sign the document as he feels that doing so will mean he admits to advocating violence and being part of CPM before, thus the 32 year saga.
If you were him, will you do the same? or will you be more flexible?
More flexible for me.
Chia was released after JB and CST came into parliament and pressured the govt for his release......
Originally posted by 4sg:Chia was released after JB and CST came into parliament and pressured the govt for his release......
probably true, can't tell... but do you agree with his actions? should he just sign a simple document to end the whole thing instead?
Originally posted by skythewood:probably true, can't tell... but do you agree with his actions? should he just sign a simple document to end the whole thing instead?
It true about the JB and Chaim part. I followed the news and TV coverage....
Only Chia and God knows about the commi stuff...... for us, we can only guess, guess.
Originally posted by skythewood:Chia Thye poh was held by ISA for 23 years imprisonment and 9 years house arrest in Sentosa, without charge or trial. there were others like him, but they were released after they agreed to sign a document to renounce violence and sever ties, if any, with the Communist Party of Malaya.(CPM)
Chia was given the same deal, but he refused to sign the document as he feels that doing so will mean he admits to advocating violence and being part of CPM before, thus the 32 year saga.
If you were him, will you do the same? or will you be more flexible?
Who are those that were released after signing the doc?
We all know that S. Nathan worked for the Japanese police during the Japanese occupation of Singapore.
LKY also worked for the Japanese government propaganda department during the Japanese occupation of Singapore.
Originally posted by googoomuck:Who are those that were released after signing the doc?
We all know that S. Nathan worked for the Japanese police during the Japanese occupation of Singapore.
LKY also worked for the Japanese government propaganda department during the Japanese occupation of Singapore.
just some guys...
Originally posted by 4sg:It true about the JB and Chaim part. I followed the news and TV coverage....
Only Chia and God knows about the commi stuff...... for us, we can only guess, guess.
there are only 2 options. it is true, he refuse to admit.
it is false, but he refuse to denounce CPM.
my main concern is not the CPM part, but whether should he sign the document.
Originally posted by skythewood:there are only 2 options. it is true, he refuse to admit.
it is false, but he refuse to denounce CPM.
my main concern is not the CPM part, but whether should he sign the document.
He relaesed liao n working in Sentosa, go ask him......
Originally posted by 4sg:
He relaesed liao n working in Sentosa, go ask him......
What was his choice was clear.
in other words, as in my first post, If you were him, will you do the same? or will you be more flexible?
Originally posted by 4sg:Chia was released after JB and CST came into parliament and pressured the govt for his release......
Corrections, Chia Thye Poh was released after Former German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt had written to the Singapore Government about his in the mid-1980s, Mr Chia said, “He intervened for me, asking for my freedom.”
Click here to view photos of Chia Thye Poh on the day he was picked up in 1966
It is plain evil to detain anyone on the whim of a political leader, more so when the political leader has the audacity of claiming to have brought his country into a First World Status.
It is pure evil to keep the citizens in line with an Internal Security Act that leaves no room for applying even an Habeas Corpus to gain a review to the abuse of this Act.
Originally posted by skythewood:What was his choice was clear.
in other words, as in my first post, If you were him, will you do the same? or will you be more flexible?
What is the purpose of your thread ?
Are you out to ridicule the principles that Chia Thye Poh held throughout his 32 years of incarceration ?
Can you even hold your candle any where near him with your taunting questions ?
His was a principled stand against a false accusation.
Only person without principles will learn to be flexible, live and be treated like a dog, learn new tricks to please the master and get your due rewards that is determined by the master at his leisure.
It is sad that Singapore's future generation will be influenced by spineless sparks that is afraid of the light, and prefer the dark to make the little sparks prominent.
Originally posted by Atobe:
What is the purpose of your thread ?Are you out to ridicule the principles that Chia Thye Poh held throughout his 32 years of incarceration ?
Can you even hold your candle any where near him with your taunting questions ?
His was a principled stand against a false accusation.
Only person without principles will learn to be flexible, live and be treated like a dog, learn new tricks to please the master and get your due rewards that is determined by the master at his leisure.
It is sad that Singapore's future generation will be influenced by spineless sparks that is afraid of the light, and prefer the dark to make the little sparks prominent.
as with topic, I think Chia is a man of principle.
you like sparks?
Originally posted by Atobe:
What is the purpose of your thread ?Are you out to ridicule the principles that Chia Thye Poh held throughout his 32 years of incarceration ?
Can you even hold your candle any where near him with your taunting questions ?
His was a principled stand against a false accusation.
Only person without principles will learn to be flexible, live and be treated like a dog, learn new tricks to please the master and get your due rewards that is determined by the master at his leisure.
It is sad that Singapore's future generation will be influenced by spineless sparks that is afraid of the light, and prefer the dark to make the little sparks prominent.
Well said.
Originally posted by skythewood:Chia Thye poh was held by ISA for 23 years imprisonment and 9 years house arrest in Sentosa, without charge or trial. there were others like him, but they were released after they agreed to sign a document to renounce violence and sever ties, if any, with the Communist Party of Malaya.(CPM)
Chia was given the same deal, but he refused to sign the document as he feels that doing so will mean he admits to advocating violence and being part of CPM before, thus the 32 year saga.
If you were him, will you do the same? or will you be more flexible?
i think it is extremely difficult to find another Chia and that's what makes him so special.
Originally posted by pearlie27:i think it is extremely difficult to find another Chia and that's what makes him so special.
agreed, he is one of a kind.
If you were him, will you do the same? or will you be more flexible?
there is this open document form England???
Originally posted by Atobe:
What is the purpose of your thread ?Are you out to ridicule the principles that Chia Thye Poh held throughout his 32 years of incarceration ?
Can you even hold your candle any where near him with your taunting questions ?
His was a principled stand against a false accusation.
Only person without principles will learn to be flexible, live and be treated like a dog, learn new tricks to please the master and get your due rewards that is determined by the master at his leisure.
It is sad that Singapore's future generation will be influenced by spineless sparks that is afraid of the light, and prefer the dark to make the little sparks prominent.
i think you should direct your "arrows" towards someone else who "signed the document"
someone you know, who has seen the "light" but still can sign and fly back so fast to denounce his signing. i think your light isn't inspiring people to be high principled.
Originally posted by Lin Yu:there is this open document form England???
and there is this open sea in the atlantic.
i like crytic messages.
Originally posted by Fantagf:Well said.
being posted so soon after someone's flight from sg, most would be able to link this thread to that case and with Chia used as a contrast.
the question posted speaks for itself, asking forumers on their opinions on their own actions. atobe choose to reply with a taunt how then can this be considered well said?
what he just did was to glorify and spit on Chia at the same time
Originally posted by skythewood:Chia Thye poh was held by ISA for 23 years imprisonment and 9 years house arrest in Sentosa, without charge or trial. there were others like him, but they were released after they agreed to sign a document to renounce violence and sever ties, if any, with the Communist Party of Malaya.(CPM)
Chia was given the same deal, but he refused to sign the document as he feels that doing so will mean he admits to advocating violence and being part of CPM before, thus the 32 year saga.
If you were him, will you do the same? or will you be more flexible?
when dealing with people i usually believe in being more flexible but when it comes to myself and usually if it deals with personal beliefs i'm quite stubborn and have been know to be quite destructive.
so what i can say is as long as i'm not forced into a corner i'm quite willing to sign. but if you're talking about taking everything away in exchange who would actually do so? even if i sign and get "freedom" do i still have the resources to enjoy my "freedom"?
Originally posted by skythewood:Chia Thye poh was held by ISA for 23 years imprisonment and 9 years house arrest in Sentosa, without charge or trial. there were others like him, but they were released after they agreed to sign a document to renounce violence and sever ties, if any, with the Communist Party of Malaya.(CPM)
Chia was given the same deal, but he refused to sign the document as he feels that doing so will mean he admits to advocating violence and being part of CPM before, thus the 32 year saga.
If you were him, will you do the same? or will you be more flexible?
these are all intellectually vacous questions unless you are doing some psychology study. people will claim that they will do this and that but in actual situation they will behave differently.
Originally posted by lotus999:these are all intellectually vacous questions unless you are doing some psychology study. people will claim that they will do this and that but in actual situation they will behave differently.
i can't tell the diffeence between just saying and actual doing between posts in the forum. i guess i will have to assume all post are true.
If you were him, will you do the same? or will you be more flexible?
Originally posted by skythewood:i can't tell the diffeence between just saying and actual doing between posts in the forum. i guess i will have to assume all post are true.
If you were him, will you do the same? or will you be more flexible?
i don't know why are you pursuing this. it is a pointless discussion; some will, some won't. so what?
unless there is an objective in this discussion that you are trying to lead us to, i will tend to agree with atobe questioning your purpose, jabs aside.
Originally posted by redDUST:i don't know why are you pursuing this. it is a pointless discussion; some will, some won't. so what?
unless there is an objective in this discussion that you are trying to lead us to, i will tend to agree with atobe questioning your purpose, jabs aside.