Tan Kin Lian
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Just some thoughts:
TKL looks like a decent guy, passionate to help the people. However, I also feel he has an axe to grind with PAP. 30 years with NTUC and after he left, criticised them. That wouldn't be happening if it was an amicable parting of ways, right?
Perhaps he also feels that the PAP is not listening enough to the voice of the people.
Anyway, the PAP are watching him.....waiting for his first stumble. His crowds are dwindling at Hong Lim by the saturdays. Last evening was only 200. People are losing faith if nothing happens. He has also engaged lawyers to help look thru the banks' sale prospectus and seeking the advice of a Queen's Counsel.
If HK finally compensates the investors, Singapore will do the same. Banks, MPs and MAS are just sitting by first. If TKL does well, they will laud him and jump on the bandwagon of popular support. If TKL's efforts are in vain and investors lose faith, then the PAP will vilify him.
Mark these words.
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Seriously, i still do not understand his motive in opening cans of worms after he stepped down from his CEO post ...
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I dun see the ingredient in him to be the president, just another pap crony
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Originally posted by seyKai:
I dun see the ingredient in him to be the president, just another pap crony
If that is the case, who do you suggest then?
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AndrewpkYap is the smartest here, all others are idiots and stupid
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Originally posted by seyKai:
AndrewpkYap is the smartest here, all others are idiots and stupid
If you dont have a good alternative suggestion, dont try to put somebody down. Thanks!
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Originally posted by Evangel:
If you dont have a good alternative suggestion, dont try to put somebody down. Thanks!
Do I need to recommend some1?
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Originally posted by seyKai:
Do I need to recommend some1?
If you have pls do. We dont mind more choices.
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We? who are "we"?
TKL knows the function of a president but he did not elaborate and just asking for support - so what do you think?
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Originally posted by seyKai:
We? who are "we"?
TKL knows the function of a president but he did not elaborate and just asking for support - so what do you think?
"We" are the eligible voters.
He is trying to test water, politics in Singapore is not like any other countries. At least he is willing to step up for the voices of the common people. What more do you want to ask for?
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Most people will support him for a cause, without elaborting that cause so what to support?
No 1 wants to be the president so the gahmen just push him to be the next.
Thats how I see it
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Originally posted by seyKai:
Most people will support him for a cause, without elaborting that cause so what to support?
No 1 wants to be the president so the gahmen just push him to be the next.
Thats how I see it
no one want to be president? no wonder they have to raise the salary so much. -
To be the President means looking into PAP account, who dares to do that?
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Originally posted by seyKai:
Most people will support him for a cause, without elaborting that cause so what to support?
No 1 wants to be the president so the gahmen just push him to be the next.
Thats how I see it
So you think that there is a conspiracy? It's highly unlikely in my opinion.
1) Helping the mis-sold investors when MAS is just observing how HK is doing.
2) 100,000 signatures trying to get some citizens involve/aware about politics in Singapore to gather support for him.
3) Local media published a biased comment from Mr Chua that directly attacks Mr Tan's character. How can they even allow that?
Are you sure nobody wants to be president? They were either not eligible by the government's standards or not approved by the government community which is appointed by the PAP.
If you are interested, there are some info for you to read. http://wayangparty.com/2008/11/28/remembering-the-last-two-presidential-casualties-ong-teng-cheong-and-andrew-kwan/
Cheers!
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Its your choice so please dont state "WE", unless you belong to a group
so far OTC was unable to do what is was suppose to do, so what makes you think he is that capable?
Gahmen just cant leave that seat empty, the whole idea was just a "make up"
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Originally posted by seyKai:
Its your choice so please dont state "WE", unless you belong to a group
so far OTC was unable to do what is was suppose to do, so what makes you think he is that capable?
Gahmen just cant leave that seat empty, the whole idea was just a "make up"
Why are you so sensitive of "we"? Afraid of being tracked down by "you know who"?
OTC cant doesnt mean TKL cant also. Where is this sense of justice in Singaporeans? Are we cowards? What are we afraid of?
That presidential seat is just a "make up" or not. I hope this time it's different, that seat must be utilized by someone who knows how to.
By the way, "we" belong to the same group of eligible voters. Who you vote for is your choice. If you are pressured in voting someone or a party you dont like, something is very wrong here.
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Originally posted by Evangel:
Why are you so sensitive of "we"? Afraid of being tracked down by "you know who"?
OTC cant doesnt mean TKL cant also. Where is this sense of justice in Singaporeans? Are we cowards? What are we afraid of?
That presidential seat is just a "make up" or not. I hope this time it's different, that seat must be utilized by someone who knows how to.
what to be afraid of being track down and I do not understand your "you know who". what got it to do here
It just a president with no actual power, the time is just not ripe yet to to optimistic. do you expect a man is capable of doing that now if it not a "make up"
I had said before - changes will only comes after LKY die, PAP will split to form opposition party or parties and opposition will be in power then, then the struggling of power will start between these parties
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Originally posted by seyKai:
what to be afraid of being track down and I do not understand your "you know who". what got it to do here
It just a president with no actual power, the time is just not ripe yet to to optimistic. do you expect a man is capable of doing that now if it not a "make up"
I had said before - changes will only comes after LKY die, PAP will split to form opposition party or parties and opposition will be in power then, then the struggling of power will start between these parties
I see...you think further than me. Alright then.
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
Just some thoughts:
TKL looks like a decent guy, passionate to help the people. However, I also feel he has an axe to grind with PAP. 30 years with NTUC and after he left, criticised them. That wouldn't be happening if it was an amicable parting of ways, right?
Perhaps he also feels that the PAP is not listening enough to the voice of the people.
Anyway, the PAP are watching him.....waiting for his first stumble. His crowds are dwindling at Hong Lim by the saturdays. Last evening was only 200. People are losing faith if nothing happens. He has also engaged lawyers to help look thru the banks' sale prospectus and seeking the advice of a Queen's Counsel.
If HK finally compensates the investors, Singapore will do the same. Banks, MPs and MAS are just sitting by first. If TKL does well, they will laud him and jump on the bandwagon of popular support. If TKL's efforts are in vain and investors lose faith, then the PAP will vilify him.
Mark these words.
it could be a repeat of the insurance case where he initially kicked a big fuss but suddenly turned quiet.
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Actually TKL is nt really charismatic in my opinion. He may be a diligent politician but whether he can really garner support is a big Qn Mark. Look at his petition of 100,000 signatures, there are nt even a thousand after these few days.
Many of us, incl. me would love to see make some noise in parliament or ask for keys to the treasury keke. Can he? Let's wait n see.
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Adrew Kuan: 576 and stopped
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?sg050817
Tan Kin Lian: 620 after one week
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?TKLFPO1
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From TOC:
Update: A group of volunteers (unaffiliated to TOC) will be at Speakers’ Corner to collect signatures for the petition to call for Mr Tan Kin Lian to stand for elections. Do go down to Speakers’ Corner if you want to sign the petition.
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ever since TKL turned up in soc.culture.singapore and was soundly hammered by the denizens there for his dubious posts and his nonsense, i could never bring myself to trust him...
in fact, i think he's just an opportunist...
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Anything is possible...
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All politicians are opportunist. None are inopportune.