so is Singapore worth fighting for? for me its a yes!!
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Candidates are selected not just simply on communicative skills alone.Originally posted by Flight Cadet Officer:What I reckon is, most Officers are chosen in BMT due to their ability to communicate with their fellow recruits, and that lots of recruits look up to them. SAF sees that as a key criteria because the moment your men starts giving you nonsense, that is the point failure is inevitable.
However the thing is, your men may look up to you with the upmost respect, but at the end of the day, if you don't have the skill or tactics, group 40 men will be dead in seconds in times of war.
Specialist on the other hand, have the most experience. Though lower rank than an Officer, they are Commanders after all.
I always believe while the Specialist or Warrant Officers are in the mud training with their men, Officers are there drinking wine... watching tv, doing paper work.
Makes a whole lot difference.
Most candidates are already targetted from the large cohorts of "A" Levels and Poly certified Guys, whose academic qualifications, and psychological, mental and physical aptitudes tests during the initial Manpower Base Check-ups are already determined.
It is during BMT, that those initial observations are put to the tests, and the results collected will confirm if those observations of potential candidates are correct or otherwise.
Most "A" Levels and "Poly" Grads who make it through at the Manpower Interviews and Check-Ups, and also get through BMT, would probably be selected based on the EXPECTATIONS that they will have some modest or above average portions of INTELLIGENCE, Determination, Character, Discipline, Ingenuity, Resourcefulness, Physical Condition, Positive Mental State, and other Quality Factors.
An Officer will be someone who will have the ability to handle several assignments at the same time, and the mental aptitude to handle the stress of MULTI-Tasking Work and Responsbilities all at the same time.
This is a Multi-Dimension world, where events pressed in together all at the same time, to demand the full and immediate attention and energy of an individual.
Any Commander, be it as OFFICER or a Specialist Commander, must be able to stand up to such an IMPOSED Demand of his character, physical and mental state, and he will need his intelligence, organisational skills, ingenuity, resourcefulness, and determination to get these multi-challenges accomplished.
The SAF has created opportunities for the Specialist Warrant Officers, who would have attained such a stature serving in the SAF for at least 10 or more years.
A Lieutenant or even a Captain, would have reached their ranks in a matter of only Two or Five Years respectively.
There are differing human resources required of each rank, and for the differing tasks at hand.
In a Business Corporation, if a Storeman can perform the tasks better than a CEO of a Company, and can prove his ability to do so, WHY NOT..? -
still if you want to compare btw the Specs and the officers, there will be a whole lot of difference....
have u seen a warrant officer get scolding from an officer so loud that everyone in the whole company can hear... I did!
Even if the warrant did something wrong, he shouldn't be scold like that! At least, the officer (this officer is a proud, selfish, heartless towards the men) could do is to bring him to a room 'correct' his mistake not to scold him so loud in front of the whole company!
Officers will always have the final say, specs don't,even if their suggestion is much better than the officers!
Sometimes, officers even use the specs' ideas and said it was theirs! No use talking to them as u will be 'marked' and suffered for the rest of your days in the SAF!
I'm not saying that all officers are like that but u can't deny the facts that there are 'black' sheeps in them as I've seen, experience, suffered under them!
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Audix, you are certainly correct in your observations that there are black sheeps in the Officer Corp.
These black sheeps can be found in every organisation and in our communities as well.
They talk more then they do, and they talk louder then others, so no one will dare to look at their work in detail, or prefer not to get into a shouting match with them.
These guys will also sweet talk their way in and out of situations with their superior officers.
Do not despair, as most Senior Officers are aware of such behavior, as they would have rub their skins with such characters when they were a recruit and long before their path to be Senior Officers. -
There was this bank CEO. Made billions of dollar of profits for the bank during his service. When he retired, employees realised he was actually no degree holder.Originally posted by Atobe:Candidates are selected not just simply on communicative skills alone.
Most candidates are already targetted from the large cohorts of "A" Levels and Poly certified Guys, whose academic qualifications, and psychological, mental and physical aptitudes tests during the initial Manpower Base Check-ups are already determined.
It is during BMT, that those initial observations are put to the tests, and the results collected will confirm if those observations of potential candidates are correct or otherwise.
Most "A" Levels and "Poly" Grads who make it through at the Manpower Interviews and Check-Ups, and also get through BMT, would probably be selected based on the EXPECTATIONS that they will have some modest or above average portions of INTELLIGENCE, Determination, Character, Discipline, Ingenuity, Resourcefulness, Physical Condition, Positive Mental State, and other Quality Factors.
An Officer will be someone who will have the ability to handle several assignments at the same time, and the mental aptitude to handle the stress of MULTI-Tasking Work and Responsbilities all at the same time.
This is a Multi-Dimension world, where events pressed in together all at the same time, to demand the full and immediate attention and energy of an individual.
Any Commander, be it as OFFICER or a Specialist Commander, must be able to stand up to such an IMPOSED Demand of his character, physical and mental state, and he will need his intelligence, organisational skills, ingenuity, resourcefulness, and determination to get these multi-challenges accomplished.
The SAF has created opportunities for the Specialist Warrant Officers, who would have attained such a stature serving in the SAF for at least 10 or more years.
A Lieutenant or even a Captain, would have reached their ranks in a matter of only Two or Five Years respectively.
There are differing human resources required of each rank, and for the differing tasks at hand.
In a Business Corporation, if a Storeman can perform the tasks better than a CEO of a Company, and can prove his ability to do so, WHY NOT..?
In war, you may ace in Engineering. But can you win a war with that knowledge? I say not. The training is essential. Officers don't get enough hands on training. Warrant Officers do. Though harsh at times, I don't see why they don't deserve the salute. -
AiyoOriginally posted by NathanG5:Author: Eddy (---.qala.com.sg)
Date: 01-27-03 16:17
Amidst the war-mongering and bullying of the malaysians and the economic recession in Singapore, what is Singapore worth defending?
HDB flat ?
Didn't you know Lee Kuan Yew gave us HDB flat for our home to encourage Singaporeans defending Singapore?
BUT I WILL ALWAYS STAND WITH AND PLEDGE MYSELF TO
SINGAPORE!
Eiizumi says,
"We the Citizens of Singapore.
Pledge ourselves as one United people.
Regardless of race, language or religion.
To build a Democratic society,
Based on Justice and Equality.
So as to achieve happiness, prosperity and
Progess for our Nation."
So are YOU a STAYER or a QUITTER? -
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for me it's not a matter of whether it's for the gov or not, i'll be doing it for family and friends,my home.i was born a singaporean, i'll die a "1st class" citzen singaporean than a second class citzen in some other countries. if you asked me..i'll stay and fight.
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Don't die so quickly and so easily.Originally posted by foga:for me it's not a matter of whether it's for the gov or not, i'll be doing it for family and friends,my home.i was born a singaporean, i'll die a "1st class" citzen singaporean than a second class citzen in some other countries. if you asked me..i'll stay and fight.
Survive to Fight every New Day.
If you want to be a "1st Class" Citizen in Singapore, you must believe in "Fighting to survive" each and every single day, so that you can be of use to Singapore's Defense. -
:Originally posted by foga:for me it's not a matter of whether it's for the gov or not, i'll be doing it for family and friends,my home.i was born a singaporean, i'll die a "1st class" citzen singaporean than a second class citzen in some other countries. if you asked me..i'll stay and fight. -
dont bullshit lah....Originally posted by Flight Cadet Officer:for civilians yes.
for the govt. ? hell no.
there are 2 way you can fight... one.. by being under SAF .. or alone...on your own with no rifle or backups....so...
you wanna fight under SAF?? under the chain of command?? welcome to the reality world where our PM sits at the AFC and MINDEF is but one of many singapore govt department...
dont want?? sorry.... ah.... you aint got no freaking choice....
they call you up... you no turn up... you go six feet under the soil for desertion.....
alternatively... you can try and chiong the MAF soldiers with your chopstick or kitchen knife... either way... we wont be seeing you around...
:mrgreen