Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:
If somebody goes to work drunk then he should be prepared to face the consequences of it, if that person gets fired for it would you blame alcohol or the person for getting drunk? Blaming marijuana for causing people to not be able to work is just as stupid as blaming alcohol for someone getting fired for turning up to work drunk.
If the person is drunk and high on drugs. you think they care for the consequences of appearing to work drunk or high?
Look, if you want to argue, for heavens sake check back on what you typed or a typing before making a further fool of yourself.
Wow, I see someone backtracking on themselves, by claiming others is backtracking.
Either your refresh button is slow, or its backtracking! Wonders of electronics eh?
Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:Ah yes, a Hollywood comedy film is truly solid evidence. Well have you seen Die Hard? It's awesome, look at how police officers can single-handedly take down dozens of terrorists. Have you seen The Curious Case of Benjamin Button? Look at how people how are born backwards and grow younger instead of age normally have such a hard time fitting in with the rest of society, we need the government to spend money on campaigns to encourage tolerance of backwards aging people.
Not to forget Van Dam in that hockey show with bombs.
Sigourny Weaver in Aliens.
Arnold schwa....in Rambo
and leonardo di caprio in what....the beach?
Originally posted by viciouskitty74:And for that matter YES.
She jumped put of the 5th storey HDB flat with a high on drugs.
Now, you want to provide a incident where you personally knows druggies dont jump?
Or you had rather she jumped from a higher floor to meet your expectation?
Correlation does not imply causation. Just because she jumped out a window when she was high doesn't mean marijuana caused her to do it. Well a man killed himself while wearing a yellow striped shirt, certainly yellow striped shirts cause people to jump off buildings. See the fallacy of your logic? She probably did it for reasons such as problems with relationship, money, etc.
Originally posted by viciouskitty74:Ok. Remember Julia Bohl and her malay boyfriend? The one caught for cannibis in her home?
Remember that before you tell me about drugs & people ok.
At least I knew Julia personally.
Exactly the reason why you should support my stance on criminalising drugs, it ruins the lives of innocent (free of any moral wrongdoing, not the law's highly flawed definition) people.
Are you aware of a woman who jumped out of a 3rd floor hotel at Beach Road, half naked, landed head first and died?
Did anyone remember who was in the room with her and what she was doing with that crowd?
If no one does. I do.
So please, stop testing my memory and argue with someone that seen drug death can?
Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:Exactly the reason why you should support my stance on criminalising drugs, it ruins the lives of innocent (free of any moral wrongdoing, not the law's highly flawed definition) people.
Blink blink blink........I need to lay off that hot chocolate with marshmellow......
Originally posted by viciouskitty74:
If the person is drunk and high on drugs. you think they care for the consequences of appearing to work drunk or high?Look, if you want to argue, for heavens sake check back on what you typed or a typing before making a further fool of yourself.
Well then like I said, it's that person's stupidity for not using it responsibly. If what you say is true then everyone who drinks should be turning up to work drunk all the time but both of us know that is not the case.
Originally posted by viciouskitty74:Are you aware of a woman who jumped out of a 3rd floor hotel at Beach Road, half naked, landed head first and died?
Did anyone remember who was in the room with her and what she was doing with that crowd?
If no one does. I do.
So please, stop testing my memory and argue with someone that seen drug death can?
Was she on marijuana and nothing else? I highly doubt that and even if she was it's an isolated incident coming from an unreliable source being your personal account. Please provide me with some real evidence.
Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:Was she on marijuana and nothing else? I highly doubt that and even if she was it's an isolated incident coming from an unreliable source being your personal account. Please provide me with some real evidence.
its not isolated lah.
and how to produce u evidence? You of the legal industry? You want, can always go search thru the judges judgements available on the SAL links.
And for that matter, if you liked, I can recount you a incident of marijauna in ciggies found next to a dead body in Toa payoh.
Marijauna and nothing else.
marijauna is a gateway to other drugs dearie.
Its rare to have people die on marijauna alone. Or that marijauna do not induce a high which some people can jump out the window. If you can, I appreciate evidence that showed that marijauna prohibits a person jumping off.
Originally posted by viciouskitty74:
its not isolated lah.and how to produce u evidence? You of the legal industry? You want, can always go search thru the judges judgements available on the SAL links.
And for that matter, if you liked, I can recount you a incident of marijauna in ciggies found next to a dead body in Toa payoh.
Well evidence would be providing a link to an article which concludes that his death was due to marijuana, but that's not going to happen because you can't overdose on it.
You have the internet, go find a news article or something of the matter, then when you have some evidence you can actually provide a proper argument instead of the typically Singaporean anti-drug rambling, the stance of which you have adopted due to being brainwashed by the government's propaganda.
Originally posted by viciouskitty74:Marijauna and nothing else.
marijauna is a gateway to other drugs dearie.
Its rare to have people die on marijauna alone. Or that marijauna do not induce a high which some people can jump out the window. If you can, I appreciate evidence that showed that marijauna prohibits a person jumping off.
Fact: Marijuana does not cause people to use hard drugs. What the gateway theory presents as a causal explanation is a statistic association between common and uncommon drugs, an association that changes over time as different drugs increase and decrease in prevalence. Marijuana is the most popular illegal drug in the United States today. Therefore, people who have used less popular drugs such as heroin, cocaine, and LSD, are likely to have also used marijuana. Most marijuana users never use any other illegal drug. Indeed, for the large majority of people, marijuana is a terminus rather than a gateway drug.
Originally posted by viciouskitty74:Marijauna and nothing else.
marijauna is a gateway to other drugs dearie.
Its rare to have people die on marijauna alone. Or that marijauna do not induce a high which some people can jump out the window. If you can, I appreciate evidence that showed that marijauna prohibits a person jumping off.
Please don't use that religious logic on me, that if I can't provide evidence that marijuana prohibits a person from jumping off a building that must mean it does. In that case apples, keyboards, rose-coloured tinted sunglasses, rubber-soled shoes and a billion other things cause people to jump off buildings.
Anyway, that ciggies found inside the ciggie box next to the dead body.
It was inside the ground floor of a room of a HDB 3 room flat.
We were radioed to go over and take over from 3 other officers because its the Puasa period and 2 of that 1st group of officers need to go break fast.
We were told the person died of piles. (Incredulous and a bit of mirth there.)
We got there when the sky is just darkening. (Officers came out to greet us and tell us the same thing, I was warned not to smile or laugh too much.)
Was introduced to the deceased and the 2 person in that same flat. One is the deceased g/f, the other the g/f's grandmother.
We were given the deceased's nric card for safekeeping. And me being the only female, with secretarial training is always the one to have to do logsheet and recording down details.
The NRIC card shows a plump good looking man with fair skin in his 30s. (maybe all nric photos make us looks fair.) NRIC and picture was new, less then a year before the death.
We took a look at the deceased and all of us sobered up real quick. Deceased is skinny and dark till dark chocolate skin. (Skinny as in can see the bones.)
Officers left, and I continued on taking down details.
Much later, my partners in the room with the deceased found two ciggie boxes, in it are the hand rolled ciggies.
They took them out to where I was at the kitchen writing to show me. One took some on his tongue to confirm that the powder inside is cannabis.
Then we called over the deceased g/f and asked her about the deceased medical condition. The g/f nearly snatched those ciggies away and claim she does not know about them.
We anywhere radioed back the officers to come back on what they missed.
(In all fairness, the g/f has a hoarse voice and slightly wondering eyes. She might have abused other drugs before resorting to cannabis because its untrace-able. And that deceased might have been starving himself to save money for his cannabis ciggies since he was unemployed.)
Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:Please don't use that religious logic on me, that if I can't provide evidence that marijuana prohibits a person from jumping off a building that must mean it does. In that case apples, keyboards, rose-coloured tinted sunglasses, rubber-soled shoes and a billion other things cause people to jump off buildings.
Oh yes....that grandiose thingy really do applies to some folks here.
And I believe in gateway theory. because i've seen it happened.
Is that enough evidence for you? Or you need to rely on the publicised agruements to change my beliefs?
anyway, who done cannabis and marijauna?
What kind of high is it?
Just your eyesight fuzzy? Or the world moved around?
Or everything is sharp and clear and you are just happy like on endorphins or the feeling of being in love?
Originally posted by viciouskitty74:And I believe in gateway theory. because i've seen it happened.
Is that enough evidence for you? Or you need to rely on the publicised agruements to change my beliefs?
Yes, because non-scientific personal observations carry more weight than medical journals.
medical journals suggested medical facts of marijauna.
It does not suggest the relationship in which marijauna lead to drugs. Unless its a psychatric fact that of a relationship between marijauna and hard drugs.
Lees trying to play god.
what the fuck? he's my age!
Originally posted by viciouskitty74:Anyway, that ciggies found inside the ciggie box next to the dead body.
It was inside the ground floor of a room of a HDB 3 room flat.
We were radioed to go over and take over from 3 other officers because its the Puasa period and 2 of that 1st group of officers need to go break fast.
We were told the person died of piles. (Incredulous and a bit of mirth there.)
We got there when the sky is just darkening. (Officers came out to greet us and tell us the same thing, I was warned not to smile or laugh too much.)
Was introduced to the deceased and the 2 person in that same flat. One is the deceased g/f, the other the g/f's grandmother.
We were given the deceased's nric card for safekeeping. And me being the only female, with secretarial training is always the one to have to do logsheet and recording down details.
The NRIC card shows a plump good looking man with fair skin in his 30s. (maybe all nric photos make us looks fair.) NRIC and picture was new, less then a year before the death.
We took a look at the deceased and all of us sobered up real quick. Deceased is skinny and dark till dark chocolate skin. (Skinny as in can see the bones.)
Officers left, and I continued on taking down details.
Much later, my partners in the room with the deceased found two ciggie boxes, in it are the hand rolled ciggies.
They took them out to where I was at the kitchen writing to show me. One took some on his tongue to confirm that the powder inside is cannabis.
Then we called over the deceased g/f and asked her about the deceased medical condition. The g/f nearly snatched those ciggies away and claim she does not know about them.
We anywhere radioed back the officers to come back on what they missed.
(In all fairness, the g/f has a hoarse voice and slightly wondering eyes. She might have abused other drugs before resorting to cannabis because its untrace-able. And that deceased might have been starving himself to save money for his cannabis ciggies since he was unemployed.)
One thing to prove your account above completely bogus - marijuana doesn't come in powdered form. Secondly, how do you assert that the cause of death was from marijuana overdose (which can't happen) from that tale? Oh the deceased was skinny and unemployed so surely there is no other explanation than that he was starving himself to save money for cannabis as there is no other reason why someone could be underweight and unemployed. Stop jumping to conclusions.
Originally posted by viciouskitty74:medical journals suggested medical facts of marijauna.
It does not suggest the relationship in which marijauna lead to drugs. Unless its a psychatric fact that of a relationship between marijauna and hard drugs.
I think you might've missed my above post but here it is again, copy and pasted for your convenience.
Babe,
stop confusing medical facts to relationship facts.
Lets suggest you like horror movies. After some time, will you keep watching the same time of horror movies of the same storyline, or you will want something a bit more different and exciting where you dont know when that ghoul is going to suddenly pop up?
Or a movie with some extra psychotic killer in that ghost horror movie?
Look at Aliens movies, the aliens evolved right?
Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:I think you might've missed my above post but here it is again, copy and pasted for your convenience.
Thank you.
Now that I am high on Hot Chocolate and Mashmellow, can you maybe summarise the above for me?