Is Isreal Terrorist ?
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Originally posted by mancha:
If I am Palestinian parent, I'd kick the butts of the Hamas.
Don't forget that they voted in HAMAS...
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Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
Don't forget that they voted in HAMAS...
and PAP too, dun forget the citizens voted them. -
Take a look how Hamas how to make home made rockets!!
Like a bakery....
This is history,i hope we can review few years later to see who is right.
Israel to kill so many people is not right.
But how about Hamas shooting rockets to kill Israel people?
I dunt know........
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,531578,00.html
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-28471-4.html#backToArticle=531578
Explosive substance: The warhead is filled with TNT.
In a shed somewhere in the north of the Gaza Strip a group of young men build Qassam rockets at night.
Different sized rockets are produced, the biggest can reach distances of up to nine kilometers. They are being produced to be fired into Israel.
(lion note---smoking in rockets factory shall be banned!!)
The fertilizer that is used to produce the rocket fuel comes from Israel, as the Hebrew writing on the bags shows.
pl read news from
/www.spiegel.de
GRAVEYARD SHIFT FOR ISLAMIC JIHAD
A Visit to a Gaza Rocket Factory
By Ulrike Putz in the Gaza Strip
No matter what Israel does, the rockets from the Gaza Strip just keep coming. Young men like Abdul are the reason why. He studies by day, but at night he builds bombs for the Islamic Jihad. He and his fellow militants can produce up to 100 per night.
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The young man pulls the door of the taxi closed. He is wet. There is a light drizzle in the Gaza Strip. He turns around and greets the passengers in the back seat with a quick handshake. "Are you ready?" he asks them. "As of this moment, we could be going to paradise at any time." The other people in the car don’t respond, and the driver of the Mercedes hits the gas. "I should have phoned my wife," he says after a while. "She should start to keep an eye out for a new husband."
PHOTO GALLERY: BUILDING QASSAM ROCKETS IN GAZA
Click on a picture to launch the image gallery (9 Photos)
It’s a long journey through the pitch-dark night as the taxi heads towards the secret rocket factory in the Gaza Strip. Since Abdul* and his two friends got in, it has become a life-threatening trip. The young men produce rockets for the Islamic Jihad. Day after day, their rudimentary bombs land on Israeli villages, fields and kibbutzim. Israel responds by using air strikes to kill the Qassam commandos. The attacks mostly target cars that carry the militants to their missions -- cars like the one we are traveling in this evening.The car is traveling north in the direction of the Israeli border. The men make jokes about the virgins that according to Islamic belief are awaiting them in paradise: gallows humor. One holds a pistol in the face of the stranger: "I just wanted to see if you would be frightened." It's now pouring outside, the taxi's windows are so fogged that the promised blindfold is no longer necessary. It is impossible to tell where the car is; it's just clear that the houses outside are looking increasingly poor. Next to dark windows there are posters honoring the "martyrs," the Palestinians killed in the struggle with Israel. Smoldering campfires that appear between the massive puddles light the way.
The Fertilizer Comes from Israel
The vehicle finally stops at a dirt track. The Islamic Jihad rocket factory is housed in a kind of garden shed. The hut measures five meters by five meters, metal pipes with small wings lean against the wall in the corner: Half finished Qassams. There are several tightly packed garbage bags on a shelf. "TNT," says Abdul and produces a chunk. The explosive looks like lumpy sugar. A large cauldron is sitting ready on a gas cooker while bags with Hebrew writing are piled up high up against the wall. "Fertilizer for the rocket fuel," Abdul says and grins. "We get it in Israel."
Abdul is 22 but, tall and lanky as he is, he could still pass for 16. He has been making rockets for three and a half years and says he has finished hundreds of Qassams. A veteran with a double life: He studies geography during the day and makes his contribution to the Jihad at night.
Qassams are primitive missiles lacking any guidance system. Building one is "child's play," Abdul says: One of the team welds the rocket casings together from metal pipes, while another fills the warhead with up to three kilograms of TNT. Abdul's specialty is the last step: the rocket propulsion. He and his mates brew up the fuel out of a mixture of glucose, fertilizer and a few other chemicals, which is used to fire the rockets at distances of up to nine kilometers. Right at the end, he inserts the detonator cap, which makes the missile explode on impact. They hide the finished rockets in depots, which the launch commandos can then freely avail themselves of. Abdul only fires them himself when he has made some tiny improvements to a proven model. "Then I want to see how it flies."
Up to 100 Rockets a Night
The team can make up to 100 rockets per night shift, but today it won't be more than 10. Instead of the usual 12, only three of Abdul's men have turned up tonight. "The other guys are over in Egypt, shopping," he says, adding that the militants are just ordinary people who want to experience the open border with the neighboring country. Will they be looking for ingredients for building the Qassams? "Hardly," the oldest of the group laughs. "They are buying potato chips. We have enough raw materials to last for a few years."
The presence of smuggling tunnels under the Egyptian border have ensured that there is never a lack of supplies. "The TNT comes to us from Sudan via Egypt." Other elements arrive by boat across the sea to Gaza. "We get some from Eastern Europe." The raw materials for one large rocket cost up to €500. The money to finance the operation comes the same route as the materials. "The Israeli blockade doesn't affect us; it's just intended to plunge the people into misery."
Now and then shots can be heard outside and an explosion echoes through the night. There is fighting at the nearby border. The walkie-talkies in the hut keep them up-to-date on the situation. With a hiss, the gas cooker comes to life. A cauldron full of fuel is set on it, and one of the men stirs in a lump of golden syrup, while the others weigh the fertilizer, which contains nitrate. They explain that the nitrate has to be mixed very slowly with the sugar solution. "The thing is highly explosive." Abdul admits that many of his friends have suffered severe burns or lost fingers. He shrugs his shoulders: "There is a local saying in Gaza: He who cooks poison has to also try it."
'If It Hits a Child, naturally We are not Happy'
The production of the fuel may be delicate, but the really danger lies in the Israeli helicopters, Abdul says. "We know that we are easy prey." His thumb flashes a nervous Morse code with his flashlight onto the floor of the hut. "We are ready to die; that is the price of our freedom." He says that the Palestinians are left with no other choice but to fight the Israelis with weapons. "Either we resist, or they treat us like slaves." He has thought about who is hit by his rockets. "If we kill soldiers, then we are more than happy," he says. "If it hits a child, then naturally we are not happy."
PHOTO GALLERY: BUILDING QASSAM ROCKETS IN GAZA
Click on a picture to launch the image gallery (9 Photos)
The simple fact of the matter is that you can't aim a Qassam, he says. "And look at the Israelis. They have F-16s and Apache helicopters and can shoot with amazing accuracy. And they still kill our women and children." He reflects for a moment. "Children shouldn’t be killed in any war in this world," says Abdul, who has no children of his own.Then he sends everyone outside. "This is the most dangerous moment. Just before the fuel is ready, the whole thing can explode." Over tea on the porch Abdul tells of his career as a rocket maker. A few hours of theory, then he and his friends did their apprenticeship with an experienced rocket builder. He doesn’t want to explicitly say it, but it seems as if he also trained abroad. "I was in Syria, Jordan and one other country," he says. In Iran? Abdul smiles slightly.
'My Mother Is Proud of Me'
The rocket fuel in the cauldron is ready: a thick yellow dough. Abdul carries a spoonful outside and put it in the fire on which the tea is brewing. A flame darts up, the nitrate-sugar mixture fizzes and bubbles as it burns off. It smells like fireworks, Abdul is pleased. The mixture is ready and is poured into a plastic tube, where it is to cool down. A fuse with a long wire is embedded in the mixture, with which the rocket can be ignited later. Once the fuel has set, the plastic tube will be cut away and the yellow fuel cylinder will be placed in the Qassam casing.
Now that the first Qassam rocket of the night is practically finished, Abdul has become quieter. "Today the clouds are protecting us from the Israeli drones."
The Islamic Jihad widows and orphans fund won't need to be used for his bereaved relatives. His mother, who worries so much about him, will be glad tomorrow morning when her son wakes up in his bed. "On the one hand, she is proud of me," he says. "But, at the end of the day, she is still a mother."
* Name changed---EOQ
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The militants mix together glucose sirup with sieved fertilizer. They use kitchen scales to weigh the ingredients.
It takes half an hour to prepare the rocket fuel on the gas cooker. One of the team tests a spoonful of rocket fuel.
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-28471-6.html#backToArticle=531578
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who do has right to kill?
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Double post.
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Your addled hallucinogen-driven meanderings are even more fucking vague than usual, loudpussy - what's Australia done wrong this time?
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Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
Don't forget that they voted in HAMAS...
So did Hitler. And murdered millions thru his ideology of 'Master Race'. Non-aryans were to be slaves. Children and the weak to be slaughtered.In the past, our ancestors may had condoned killing of innocents, but NOT this generation or the next.
Hamas and their ideology of jewish genocide is only a repetition of history, to complete what the arabs' ally which was Hitler during WWII, failed to finish. IT MUST END!
After WWII, it heralded the end of colonnialism with the victorious great US President Franklin Roosevelt's inspiring '4 freedom' famous speech.
Colonnised terroritories were given back to those who had lived in those lands and were fit to rule and had majority support.
If the Orang Asli were educated enough, they would had been the owners of an independent Malaysia, and not the Majuhapit descedents.
Israel declared independence from England and was recognised as a State by a majority of free nations in the UN. It had honoured its pledges to the oaths of UN that binds all nations for peace.
But sadly, it continued to be harrassed by the arabs thru numerous attacks and wars, whom used mis-interpretated religion to whip up the masses to wipe out a group of innocent human beings.
Israel and jews had contributed wealth and more critically, intelligence, to our world. It had never wavered in its support of small states that needed help.
Yet when it face multiple missile attacks daily for months by the terrorist religious group Hamas masquerading as a political entity, the world did nothing.
I readily admit i did nothing too, to my bitter regret now, as i watched Hamas' 'emplaced purpose collateral damage' made up of innocent men, women and children of Gaza, marked for death!
Therefore, if anyone who wishes to protest about the Israeli retaliation so that innocents may live must CALL HAMAS INTO ACCOUNT for the genocide of jews as well as the palestinians!
If we don't, it will only be a clear sign to the terrorist organisations that murder of innocents is still condone in our age, regardless of muslims or espacially non-muslims.
Every protest board that condemns Israel without condemning Hamas is a blank cheque note to Hamas and other terrorist organisations to continue with their ideology - kill jews and infidels-meaning you and me.
Even muslims will not be spared, and must accept death as 'collateral damage' for the sake of their mis-guided and twisted ideology.
PS:- I am frightened but at the same time saddened by the more extreme muslims in Malaysia and Indonesia protest actions.
Do they truly support the fight against terrorism or had they succumb to the terrrorist's ideology of death to infidels, including innocent men, women and children of the muslim faith to accept being 'collateral dammage' in their politically correct term called 'sacrifice'?
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
Mortar Bombs Shot from UN School in Gaza 29 Oct. 2007
Hamas can fire from adjacent areas of a building and then deny they fire from within the building.
If I am Palestinian, I will avoid these 'safe' buildings at all costs.
So u are telling that hamas use Israel rocket to fire at their own area ? Have u ever see the photo or video of so call hamas launch rocket to Israel land, what is the damage or the death of israel people?
If they have powerful weapon I don't think they will use suicide bomb.
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Originally posted by rockfire:
So u are telling that hamas use Israel rocket to fire at their own area ? Have u ever see the photo or video of so call hamas launch rocket to Israel land, what is the damage or the death of israel people?
If they have powerful weapon I don't think they will use suicide bomb.
Ummmm dude... it doesn't matter what they use.
Even if they just shoot pen knives into Israel.. it is already wrong dude.
Just because their toy rockets don't hurt many people. How long should Israel tolerate their nonsense ?
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
Take a look how Hamas how to make home made rockets!!
Like a bakery....
This is history,i hope we can review few years later to see who is right.
Israel to kill so many people is not right.
But how about Hamas shooting rockets to kill Israel people?
I dunt know........
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,531578,00.html
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-28471-4.html#backToArticle=531578
Explosive substance: The warhead is filled with TNT.
In a shed somewhere in the north of the Gaza Strip a group of young men build Qassam rockets at night.
Different sized rockets are produced, the biggest can reach distances of up to nine kilometers. They are being produced to be fired into Israel.
(lion note---smoking in rockets factory shall be banned!!)
The fertilizer that is used to produce the rocket fuel comes from Israel, as the Hebrew writing on the bags shows.
pl read news from
/www.spiegel.de
GRAVEYARD SHIFT FOR ISLAMIC JIHAD
A Visit to a Gaza Rocket Factory
By Ulrike Putz in the Gaza Strip
No matter what Israel does, the rockets from the Gaza Strip just keep coming. Young men like Abdul are the reason why. He studies by day, but at night he builds bombs for the Islamic Jihad. He and his fellow militants can produce up to 100 per night.
The young man pulls the door of the taxi closed. He is wet. There is a light drizzle in the Gaza Strip. He turns around and greets the passengers in the back seat with a quick handshake. "Are you ready?" he asks them. "As of this moment, we could be going to paradise at any time." The other people in the car don’t respond, and the driver of the Mercedes hits the gas. "I should have phoned my wife," he says after a while. "She should start to keep an eye out for a new husband."
PHOTO GALLERY: BUILDING QASSAM ROCKETS IN GAZA
Click on a picture to launch the image gallery (9 Photos)
It’s a long journey through the pitch-dark night as the taxi heads towards the secret rocket factory in the Gaza Strip. Since Abdul* and his two friends got in, it has become a life-threatening trip. The young men produce rockets for the Islamic Jihad. Day after day, their rudimentary bombs land on Israeli villages, fields and kibbutzim. Israel responds by using air strikes to kill the Qassam commandos. The attacks mostly target cars that carry the militants to their missions -- cars like the one we are traveling in this evening.The car is traveling north in the direction of the Israeli border. The men make jokes about the virgins that according to Islamic belief are awaiting them in paradise: gallows humor. One holds a pistol in the face of the stranger: "I just wanted to see if you would be frightened." It's now pouring outside, the taxi's windows are so fogged that the promised blindfold is no longer necessary. It is impossible to tell where the car is; it's just clear that the houses outside are looking increasingly poor. Next to dark windows there are posters honoring the "martyrs," the Palestinians killed in the struggle with Israel. Smoldering campfires that appear between the massive puddles light the way.
The Fertilizer Comes from Israel
The vehicle finally stops at a dirt track. The Islamic Jihad rocket factory is housed in a kind of garden shed. The hut measures five meters by five meters, metal pipes with small wings lean against the wall in the corner: Half finished Qassams. There are several tightly packed garbage bags on a shelf. "TNT," says Abdul and produces a chunk. The explosive looks like lumpy sugar. A large cauldron is sitting ready on a gas cooker while bags with Hebrew writing are piled up high up against the wall. "Fertilizer for the rocket fuel," Abdul says and grins. "We get it in Israel."
Abdul is 22 but, tall and lanky as he is, he could still pass for 16. He has been making rockets for three and a half years and says he has finished hundreds of Qassams. A veteran with a double life: He studies geography during the day and makes his contribution to the Jihad at night.
Qassams are primitive missiles lacking any guidance system. Building one is "child's play," Abdul says: One of the team welds the rocket casings together from metal pipes, while another fills the warhead with up to three kilograms of TNT. Abdul's specialty is the last step: the rocket propulsion. He and his mates brew up the fuel out of a mixture of glucose, fertilizer and a few other chemicals, which is used to fire the rockets at distances of up to nine kilometers. Right at the end, he inserts the detonator cap, which makes the missile explode on impact. They hide the finished rockets in depots, which the launch commandos can then freely avail themselves of. Abdul only fires them himself when he has made some tiny improvements to a proven model. "Then I want to see how it flies."
Up to 100 Rockets a Night
The team can make up to 100 rockets per night shift, but today it won't be more than 10. Instead of the usual 12, only three of Abdul's men have turned up tonight. "The other guys are over in Egypt, shopping," he says, adding that the militants are just ordinary people who want to experience the open border with the neighboring country. Will they be looking for ingredients for building the Qassams? "Hardly," the oldest of the group laughs. "They are buying potato chips. We have enough raw materials to last for a few years."
The presence of smuggling tunnels under the Egyptian border have ensured that there is never a lack of supplies. "The TNT comes to us from Sudan via Egypt." Other elements arrive by boat across the sea to Gaza. "We get some from Eastern Europe." The raw materials for one large rocket cost up to €500. The money to finance the operation comes the same route as the materials. "The Israeli blockade doesn't affect us; it's just intended to plunge the people into misery."
Now and then shots can be heard outside and an explosion echoes through the night. There is fighting at the nearby border. The walkie-talkies in the hut keep them up-to-date on the situation. With a hiss, the gas cooker comes to life. A cauldron full of fuel is set on it, and one of the men stirs in a lump of golden syrup, while the others weigh the fertilizer, which contains nitrate. They explain that the nitrate has to be mixed very slowly with the sugar solution. "The thing is highly explosive." Abdul admits that many of his friends have suffered severe burns or lost fingers. He shrugs his shoulders: "There is a local saying in Gaza: He who cooks poison has to also try it."
'If It Hits a Child, naturally We are not Happy'
The production of the fuel may be delicate, but the really danger lies in the Israeli helicopters, Abdul says. "We know that we are easy prey." His thumb flashes a nervous Morse code with his flashlight onto the floor of the hut. "We are ready to die; that is the price of our freedom." He says that the Palestinians are left with no other choice but to fight the Israelis with weapons. "Either we resist, or they treat us like slaves." He has thought about who is hit by his rockets. "If we kill soldiers, then we are more than happy," he says. "If it hits a child, then naturally we are not happy."
PHOTO GALLERY: BUILDING QASSAM ROCKETS IN GAZA
Click on a picture to launch the image gallery (9 Photos)
The simple fact of the matter is that you can't aim a Qassam, he says. "And look at the Israelis. They have F-16s and Apache helicopters and can shoot with amazing accuracy. And they still kill our women and children." He reflects for a moment. "Children shouldn’t be killed in any war in this world," says Abdul, who has no children of his own.Then he sends everyone outside. "This is the most dangerous moment. Just before the fuel is ready, the whole thing can explode." Over tea on the porch Abdul tells of his career as a rocket maker. A few hours of theory, then he and his friends did their apprenticeship with an experienced rocket builder. He doesn’t want to explicitly say it, but it seems as if he also trained abroad. "I was in Syria, Jordan and one other country," he says. In Iran? Abdul smiles slightly.
'My Mother Is Proud of Me'
The rocket fuel in the cauldron is ready: a thick yellow dough. Abdul carries a spoonful outside and put it in the fire on which the tea is brewing. A flame darts up, the nitrate-sugar mixture fizzes and bubbles as it burns off. It smells like fireworks, Abdul is pleased. The mixture is ready and is poured into a plastic tube, where it is to cool down. A fuse with a long wire is embedded in the mixture, with which the rocket can be ignited later. Once the fuel has set, the plastic tube will be cut away and the yellow fuel cylinder will be placed in the Qassam casing.
Now that the first Qassam rocket of the night is practically finished, Abdul has become quieter. "Today the clouds are protecting us from the Israeli drones."
The Islamic Jihad widows and orphans fund won't need to be used for his bereaved relatives. His mother, who worries so much about him, will be glad tomorrow morning when her son wakes up in his bed. "On the one hand, she is proud of me," he says. "But, at the end of the day, she is still a mother."
* Name changed---EOQ
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thks bro good post. u mention fertilizer comes from Israel, Mozzad is the number 1 agent in the world, how come the don't know that Palestine buy fertilizer for rocket that going to be launch to Israel?
The biggest rocket can reach distances of up to nine kilometers. Wow so powerful Israel launch 1 rocket then spilt to 20 small rocket and attach with chemical lastest news.
1 night they can do 100 rocket, So have hamas launch all 1 night rocket to Israel ? It make me thinking how many night do hamas have spent doing the rocket?
so bro i have to say this, it hard to believe that someone can let the whole world know about their plan. If u plan of killing someone would u broadcast to the News and tell them who, when or where u going to kill this someone.
The lastest incident in singapore is very good example, what the 70 years uncle do?
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Ummmm dude... it doesn't matter what they use.
Even if they just shoot pen knives into Israel.. it is already wrong dude.
Just because their toy rockets don't hurt many people. How long should Israel tolerate their nonsense ?
Yeah bro agree too but Israel should be blame to for their cruel act, take land for their wall or to make new selttement area, let palestine human live in refuge camp and when this feel they want to attack they came destroy it and go away.
Both side are human being but one have power must help other not to create sabotage.
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Really unregimented local militia.
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Originally posted by mancha:
Really unregimented local militia.
Haha, funny you caught that. ... smoking ciggy in a rocket facility.... duh ~
HAMAS's stupidity knows no boundaries.
Really pity the Gazans.
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i think Israel has it own cause. Something like Vietnam sent its troops to Cambodia in 1979 to wipe out blood-thirsty Pol Pot regime. Some might think VN "invaded" this tiny country, but it did not. Israel has no other ways!
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Golda Meir once said if the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews, there will be peace.
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http://judicial-inc.biz/w..hat_gall.htm
see this site it have prove of israel propaganda
Media Rules of Engagement
[translated from original Spanish source] – via fpp.co.uk January 11, 2008
NOTE the twelve golden and infallible truths that the media are obligated to adopt:
1. In the Middle East, the Arabs always attack first and Israel always defends itself. This defense is called 'retaliation'.
2. Neither Arabs, Palestinians nor Lebanese have the right to kill civilians. This is 'terrorism'.
3. Israel has the right to kill civilians. This is called 'legitimate defense'.
4. When Israel massively kills civilians, the Western Powers ask to her do it with courtesy or politeness. This is called 'reaction of the international community'.
5. Neither Palestinians nor Lebanese have the right to capture Israeli soldiers inside military installations with sentry and combat positions. This has to be called 'kidnapping of defenceless civilians'.
6. Israel has the right to kidnap as many Palestinians or Lebanese as they wish and at any time or place. Their present figures are about 10,000 imprisoned, 300 of whom are children and one thousand women. They do not need any evidence about their culpability. Israel has the right to detain such kidnapped prisoners indefinitely, even if they are people democratically elected by Palestinians. This is called 'imprisonment of terrorists'.
7. Whenever the word 'Hizbollah' is mentioned, it is compulsory to add in the same phrase 'supported and financed by Syria and Iran'.
8. When 'Israel' is mentioned it is absolutely forbidden to add 'supported and financed by the United States'. This could give the impression that the conflict is uneven and that Israel's existence of is not after all at risk.
9. In any statement about Israel, any mention of the following phrases is to be avoided: 'occupied territories', 'UN resolutions', 'Human Rights violations' or 'Geneva Convention'.
10. Palestinians, as well as Lebanese, always are 'cowards' hiding behind a civil population that dislike them. If they sleep in military accommodation with their families, this has a name: 'cowardice'. Israel is entitled to annihilate with bombs and missiles such barracks where they sleep. This is to be called a 'surgical, high-precision action'.
11. Israelis speak English, French, Spanish or Portuguese better than the Arabs. That is why they deserve to be interviewed more frequently and have better opportunities to explain to the audience at large the above rules, from 1 to 10. This is called 'media neutrality'.
12. Any person in disagreement with the above rules is to be branded a "highly dangerous anti-Semitic terrorist'
www.fpp.co.uk/online/09/01/media_rules.html -
Originally posted by rockfire:
http://judicial-inc.biz/w..hat_gall.htm
see this site it have prove of israel propaganda
Media Rules of Engagement
[translated from original Spanish source] – via fpp.co.uk January 11, 2008
NOTE the twelve golden and infallible truths that the media are obligated to adopt:
1. In the Middle East, the Arabs always attack first and Israel always defends itself. This defense is called 'retaliation'.
2. Neither Arabs, Palestinians nor Lebanese have the right to kill civilians. This is 'terrorism'.
3. Israel has the right to kill civilians. This is called 'legitimate defense'.
4. When Israel massively kills civilians, the Western Powers ask to her do it with courtesy or politeness. This is called 'reaction of the international community'.
5. Neither Palestinians nor Lebanese have the right to capture Israeli soldiers inside military installations with sentry and combat positions. This has to be called 'kidnapping of defenceless civilians'.
6. Israel has the right to kidnap as many Palestinians or Lebanese as they wish and at any time or place. Their present figures are about 10,000 imprisoned, 300 of whom are children and one thousand women. They do not need any evidence about their culpability. Israel has the right to detain such kidnapped prisoners indefinitely, even if they are people democratically elected by Palestinians. This is called 'imprisonment of terrorists'.
7. Whenever the word 'Hizbollah' is mentioned, it is compulsory to add in the same phrase 'supported and financed by Syria and Iran'.
8. When 'Israel' is mentioned it is absolutely forbidden to add 'supported and financed by the United States'. This could give the impression that the conflict is uneven and that Israel's existence of is not after all at risk.
9. In any statement about Israel, any mention of the following phrases is to be avoided: 'occupied territories', 'UN resolutions', 'Human Rights violations' or 'Geneva Convention'.
10. Palestinians, as well as Lebanese, always are 'cowards' hiding behind a civil population that dislike them. If they sleep in military accommodation with their families, this has a name: 'cowardice'. Israel is entitled to annihilate with bombs and missiles such barracks where they sleep. This is to be called a 'surgical, high-precision action'.
11. Israelis speak English, French, Spanish or Portuguese better than the Arabs. That is why they deserve to be interviewed more frequently and have better opportunities to explain to the audience at large the above rules, from 1 to 10. This is called 'media neutrality'.
12. Any person in disagreement with the above rules is to be branded a "highly dangerous anti-Semitic terrorist'
www.fpp.co.uk/online/09/01/media_rules.htmlIf you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it - Joseph Goebbels
This Goebbels' propaganda principle is not working anymore.
You aren't obligated to believe anything people blurb at you. Request references from reliable sources. Links to other credible sites would be one way. It is easy for cons to rant lies and fabrications. Watch out for evasions, and deception support from buddies.
Today, the number of times a lie is repeated, or how many people say it, doesn't make it a truth anymore.
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it - Joseph Goebbels
This Goebbels' propaganda principle is not working anymore.
You aren't obligated to believe anything people blurb at you. Request references from reliable sources. Links to other credible sites would be one way. It is easy for cons to rant lies and fabrications. Watch out for evasions, and deception support from buddies.
Today, the number of times a lie is repeated, or how many people say it, doesn't make it a truth anymore.
Oh i absolutely agree full heartedly. Without a doubt, no questions about Goebbel's logic there.
The Irony here is almost exquisite.
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Originally posted by Stevenson101:
Oh i absolutely agree full heartedly. Without a doubt, no questions about Goebbel's logic there.
The Irony here is almost exquisite.
Those pictures are from an Anti-Israel propaganda website, with no information. Only basketcases will fall for it, again and again.
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British MP: Israel exploiting Holocaust
Jewish lawmaker says gentiles' guilt providing Israeli government with excuse to murder Palestinians
A British lawmaker declared Thursday that Israel was taking advantage of the guilt many non-Jews feel over the Holocaust to ruthlessly press ahead with its offensive in Gaza.
Gerald Kaufman, a governing Labour Party legislator, sharply criticized Israel in a House of Commons debate on Gaza, arguing that the Jewish state has exploited guilt that much of the world feels for having ignored the slaughter of millions of Jews during World War II.
"The present Israeli government ruthlessly and cynically exploits the continuing guilt from Gentiles over the slaughter of Jews in the Holocaust as justification for their murder of Palestinians," he said.
The offensive started in response to Hamas rocket attacks on Israeli cities. Medical officials in Gaza say about 1,100 Palestinians have been killed since the offensive started.
Kaufman, a frequent critic of Israel who was raised as an Orthodox Jew, commented on the claim that large numbers of the Palestinian victims were militants."I suppose the Jews fighting for their lives in the Warsaw ghetto could have been dismissed as militants," he said.
Kaufman urged the British government to impose an arms embargo on Israel
My grandmother was ill in bed when the Nazis came to her home town. ... A German soldier shot her dead in her bed," he said. "My grandmother did not die to provide cover for Israeli soldiers murdering Palestinian grandmothers in Gaza." -
wayang lah all this.... all non-muslims are behind israel jus that they do not say so in public for fear of discrimination
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SM93, you hit the bull's eye - "WAYANG". For more than 60 yrs of Israel/Palestinian conflict and still people debating who is right or wrong. There is another "wayang" now by three US congressmen (John Kerry, Brian Baird and Keith Ellison) visting Gaza & Sderot.
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The final and last war between the Israel and Arab/Iran will be nuclear war. The Arab/Iran mindset are to destroy Israel and Jew.
There is no way that Israel keep on defencing and taking the attack.
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There is no way that Israel keep on defencing and taking the attack.
But Israel continues to occupy palestinian territory and oppresses them.
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
But Israel continues to occupy palestinian territory and oppresses them.
same mah, PAP occupy the opposition here and oppressed them. U dun understand meh??? Oppression is good if its produce good.
