If you think no, tell me why. Most people don't even care about the politics that much anyway....... so there are no truly and sincere hardcore supporters.
Is it so important to be hardcore supporters?
Why must we be hardcore supporters in the first place? Cannot see whose plan is better then support them meh ?
what is hardcore?
you support without asking why or go against without seeking clarification?
you support all the way till you die or go against all the way till they die?
you support even if your conscience tell you they are wrong, or go against even you know clearly that you they are right?
hardcore is not rational anymore, it is more of emotional.
we should never ever give our loyalty to a political party..
our loyalty should be to the country... political parties are just there to serve the country...
btw.. what makes you think all singaporeans are so dumb to believe everything the garbrament says... the majority are unlike many of the dumbasses around who hate the gabrament so much they believe anything the opposition utters, true or not
Originally posted by the Bear:we should never ever give our loyalty to a political party..
our loyalty should be to the country... political parties are just there to serve the country...
btw.. what makes you think all singaporeans are so dumb to believe everything the garbrament says... the majority are unlike many of the dumbasses around who hate the gabrament so much they believe anything the opposition utters, true or not
Whoever serve the interest of the country and the people.Such however is a dying breed in the world of greed and excess.
Originally posted by Fantagf:Is it so important to be hardcore supporters?
nope
Originally posted by starExcaliblur:Hardcore supporters of who? PAP? CSJ? opposition?
political parties. either one.
Originally posted by Stevenson101:Why must we be hardcore supporters in the first place? Cannot see whose plan is better then support them meh ?
yes. that is the definition of neutral, non supporter.
Originally posted by sgdiehard:what is hardcore?
you support without asking why or go against without seeking clarification?
you support all the way till you die or go against all the way till they die?
you support even if your conscience tell you they are wrong, or go against even you know clearly that you they are right?
hardcore is not rational anymore, it is more of emotional.
hardcore is unconditional support.
yes.
yes.
yes.
true.
Originally posted by the Bear:we should never ever give our loyalty to a political party..
our loyalty should be to the country... political parties are just there to serve the country...
btw.. what makes you think all singaporeans are so dumb to believe everything the garbrament says... the majority are unlike many of the dumbasses around who hate the gabrament so much they believe anything the opposition utters, true or not
ok.
that is the basis of being a singaporean.
singaporeans are not dumb. they are actually apathetic to politics. they don't care.
Originally posted by skythewood:hardcore is unconditional support.
yes.
yes.
yes.
true.
or going against unconditionally.
don't see many hardcore PAP supporters, but there are many anti PAP hardcore, anti LKY hardcore.
Originally posted by the Bear:we should never ever give our loyalty to a political party..
our loyalty should be to the country... political parties are just there to serve the country...
btw.. what makes you think all singaporeans are so dumb to believe everything the garbrament says... the majority are unlike many of the dumbasses around who hate the gabrament so much they believe anything the opposition utters, true or not
our loyalty should be to the country... political parties are just there to serve the country...
agree....
Originally posted by skythewood:ok.
that is the basis of being a singaporean.
singaporeans are not dumb. they are actually apathetic to politics. they don't care.
Well the reason i'm apathetic is rather simple. Politics is the arena to compete who is the biggest liar. Doesn't matter whether it's LKY or CSJ, they're not going to be any significantly better.
Originally posted by Stevenson101:Why must we be hardcore supporters in the first place? Cannot see whose plan is better then support them meh ?
x2.
My support is to whoever can do what is best for this country.
I may not always like the policies of the ruling party, but that does not mean that I listen to everything that the opposition says and support them without question, either.
At least, I know I won't support CSJ. Not because of any brainwashing by any party, but because of my own observations of what he says and does.
Originally posted by Stevenson101:
Well the reason i'm apathetic is rather simple. Politics is the arena to compete who is the biggest liar. Doesn't matter whether it's LKY or CSJ, they're not going to be any significantly better.
Some live to lie, others lie to live. Politics is a lying game. No lie, no gain.
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:Some live to lie, others lie to live. Politics is a lying game. No lie, no gain.
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
It doesn't have to be that way. Lying is only for the incapable. The ones who couldn't but wouldn't.
Unfortunately people are inclined to listen to lies because the liars know it's what they want to listen.
Not saying i'm immune from it, but the best liars are the ones who can lie even to themselves (sticking to Idealogy, Religion laws..etc) even when the result present itself differently.
Originally posted by starExcaliblur:Hardcore supporters of who? PAP? CSJ? opposition?
Frankly most of us young, in term of guys, are hardcore in porn and for gals, hardcore in slimming and beauty. Who care about politics in the first place, only old uncles are interested and some are damn hardcored about it too.
Originally posted by Stevenson101:
Unfortunately people are inclined to listen to lies because the liars know it's what they want to listen.Not saying i'm immune from it, but the best liars are the ones who can lie even to themselves (sticking to Idealogy, Religion laws..etc) even when the result present itself differently.
The world cannot live without lies, there are true lies, white lies, illusionary lies and self lies etc etc...because the world and its people cannot withhold the TRUTH.
Originally posted by Stevenson101:
Well the reason i'm apathetic is rather simple. Politics is the arena to compete who is the biggest liar. Doesn't matter whether it's LKY or CSJ, they're not going to be any significantly better.
Agree...
Just like the Minister who commented on the projected 90,000 jobs lose by mid-2010 with deadpan wtf...
Originally posted by 4sg:Agree...
Just like the Minister who commented on the projected 90,000 jobs lose by mid-2010 with deadpan wtf...
Heh, would you rather he be crying or looking sad faced?
Originally posted by Stevenson101:
Heh, would you rather he be crying or looking sad faced?
I rather he gives solution or keeps quiet....
wtf I tot the subject here is about lies and its nature...