Do you support Lee Kuan Kuan's policy of killing dialects?
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If we do not have the resolve, and cling on to half-heardted measures, there will always be language gap and generational gap, there will always be "older people who cannot understand xyz language"
What do you mean by language gap?
I thought we already have ang mog english?
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
Comrade skyhewood, the dialect is only in news broadcast.
How?
It is largely suppressed in our state media. You can't deny that comrade.
fuck you.
you said the policy is to wipe out. and i dare you to show me one policy. and you lied about it, showing me bullshit.
did i deny it is not used in television or radio widely? you show me one time i said that, you liar.
you are fucking communist who only listen to anti-government propaganda, and can't even get your facts right.
so fuck off, i am not a communist. don't drag me to your stupid level.
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
if you want to communicate with them, why can't you speak their language, mandarin, english or dialects?
You misread my post.
I am saying yes, we need to learn dialects to communicate with the older generation who don't speak english or mandarin.
But ultimately, it should be the decision of the individual to learn or speak the dialects.
Not MOE or some people up there.
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you said the policy is to wipe out. and i dare you to show me one policy. and you lied about it, showing me bullshit.
Comrade skythewood, are you denying that state media suppresses local dialects?
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Originally posted by charlize:
You misread my post.
I am saying yes, we need to learn dialects to communicate with the older generation who don't speak english or mandarin.
But ultimately, it should be the decision of the individual to learn or speak the dialects.
Not MOE or some people up there.
yes it is always must conform conform conform or u die a terrible ending -
We are now in a transitional period and we are doing some sacrifices.
We are still doing the sacrifice, until a few more generations, when our children and grandchildren can have 1 common language and 1 common mother tongue.
We have to be brave and endure this little sacrifice for the benefit of our next generations.
If we do not have the resolve, and cling on to half-heardted measures, there will always be language gap and generational gap, there will always be "older people who cannot understand xyz language"
I don't agree with above views.
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Originally posted by Bangulzai:
i m jus stating a fact that u have to be richer and pay money to listen to dialectwell i guess you have to pay a little to subscrib to listen to dialects, but think most people would subscribe to the sports ch 21 - 24 rather than watch the chinese programs, whether mandarin or dialects.
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
Comrade skythewood, are you denying that state media suppresses local dialects?
ok, i play along
faggot ah chia, i am not denying that local dialects is not used in everyday tv and radio.
yup, faggot.
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Originally posted by Meat Pao:
Well yes, that is one problem.
We are now in a transitional period and we are doing some sacrifices.
We are still doing the sacrifice, until a few more generations, when our children and grandchildren can have 1 common language and 1 common mother tongue.
We have to be brave and endure this little sacrifice for the benefit of our next generations.
If we do not have the resolve, and cling on to half-heardted measures, there will always be language gap and generational gap, there will always be "older people who cannot understand xyz language"
Some people like to use the analogy that since you are Chinese, you need to learn Mandarin.
What's the difference then by saying you are hokkien/hakka/cantonese but can't speak hokkien/hakka/cantonese?
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Originally posted by Bangulzai:
Wrong OrderHokkien, Cantonese, Teochew, Hakka, Hainanese, Hokchiu
wah laio, you listen to all of them huh...well done. -
Originally posted by Ah Chia:
We are now in a transitional period and we are doing some sacrifices.
We are still doing the sacrifice, until a few more generations, when our children and grandchildren can have 1 common language and 1 common mother tongue.
We have to be brave and endure this little sacrifice for the benefit of our next generations.
If we do not have the resolve, and cling on to half-heardted measures, there will always be language gap and generational gap, there will always be "older people who cannot understand xyz language"
I don't agree with above views.
faggot ah chia, you don't agree because you are a communist.
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Originally posted by charlize:
Some people like to use the analogy that since you are Chinese, you need to learn Mandarin.
What's the difference then by saying you are hokkien/hakka/cantonese but can't speak hokkien/hakka/cantonese?
it takes one more generation, whether you are hokkien, hakka or cantonese, makes no difference!
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
you said the policy is to wipe out. and i dare you to show me one policy. and you lied about it, showing me bullshit.
Comrade skythewood, are you denying that state media suppresses local dialects?
faggot ah chia, i noticed you edited your post, faggot.
faggot, do you deny that you can't show me one policy that aims to wipe out dialect?
faggot ah chia, do you deny that you lied about the no dialect in state media policy?
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
well i guess you have to pay a little to subscrib to listen to dialects, but think most people would subscribe to the sports ch 21 - 24 rather than watch the chinese programs, whether mandarin or dialects.
this method worked already. this is called first sideline, later diminishif there wasnt any campaign in the past, this wouldnt be the case now
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faggot ah chia, you don't agree because you are a communist.
What is the logic comrade?
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faggot, do you deny that you can't show me one policy that aims to wipe out dialect?
Suppression of dialect in state media.
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
wah laio, you listen to all of them huh...well done.
for ur info there r many other dialects in singapore still but they r not represented in the newsit's always about costs
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Originally posted by youyayu:
Learning dialect is PART OF A CULTURE!
if that folly old man think he is kind of god.. that want to even take culture away..curse him
wow, youyayu... that despot considers only money... how to take as much from the people as possible and how to put as much into his pocket, the pockets of his relatives, cronies, and dogs as possible...
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Originally posted by Bangulzai:
this method worked already. this is called first sideline, later diminishif there wasnt any campaign in the past, this wouldnt be the case now
shows in chinese is more popular than show in dialect. cause there is many many dialect, can't satisfy them all.
you can try tv3, the malaysian channel, they show the hong kong show in original cantonese.
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n u all watched the KARAOKE show hosted by �宗宪？
when chinese song, normal
when hokkien song, CUT
Get it comrade skythewood?
Suppression of dialect in state media.
Please don't deny facts. Thank you.
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Originally posted by charlize:
Some people like to use the analogy that since you are Chinese, you need to learn Mandarin.
What's the difference then by saying you are hokkien/hakka/cantonese but can't speak hokkien/hakka/cantonese?
All those Hokkien/ Hakka/ Cantonese are basically dialects, of a same root language.
They are not a different separate language.
Thats why they are called "dialects"
Basically it is different pronounciation, accent, and so on, of the same root language.
In my opinion, now in the 21st century, it is better to standardize this root language, not to perpetuate the differering and competing dialects of this language.
This does not mean you will be reducing your cultural heritage, but only standardizing your heritage. It is basically the same thing. In fact, you are harmonizing and closing the gap with the other Chinese groups with their cultural heritage.
So that will be condusive to build a common identity rather than "Hokkien, Hakka, Cantonese"
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
faggot, do you deny that you can't show me one policy that aims to wipe out dialect?
Suppression of dialect in state media.
faggot ah chia, that is not wipe out, that is adherence to limiting the broadcast to a few mainstream languages. at best, you can say suppress, not wipe out.
understand faggot ah chia?
do you deny that you can't show me one policy that aims to wipe out dialect?
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Originally posted by skythewood:
shows in chinese is more popular than show in dialect. cause there is many many dialect, can't satisfy them all.
you can try tv3, the malaysian channel, they show the hong kong show in original cantonese.
thank you, those shows are nice -
Originally posted by Ah Chia:
faggot ah chia, you don't agree because you are a communist.
What is the logic comrade?
faggot ah chia, because you like to call people comrade, even people who are not communist, which shows you are a communist and a faggot.
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This does not mean you will be reducing your cultural heritage, but only standardizing your heritage. It is basically the same thing. In fact, you are harmonizing and closing the gap with the other Chinese groups with their cultural heritage.
That is an odd logic.
I think it is bullshit.