Do you support Lee Kuan Kuan's policy of killing dialects?
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I think HK made a mistake because they dont want to adopt Mandarin.
Taiwan under DPP was inching towards mistakes as well, now Hokkien is getting more used there.
I think Singapore should not make such mistakes.
Just see forward to the future and dont see backwards.
Think about future generation and dont be selfish, sacrifice a little bit to give them a better environment.
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I do not support.
It's not much of a policy, anyway. Just a statement of his views. He could say anything he wants, but if people won't comply, it's useless.
I is my personal belief that culture is vital in society such as thus.
Why not make Malays learn Mandarin as well? If Malays learn Mandarin, then they 'can speak to 1,300 million Chinese from all provinces in China'. Surely, the reach would be far, far greater than that of the Malay language? -
Originally posted by Ah Chia:
n u all watched the KARAOKE show hosted by �宗宪？
when chinese song, normal
when hokkien song, CUT
Get it comrade skythewood?
Suppression of dialect in state media.
Please don't deny facts. Thank you.
Fuck you faggot
show me one place where i say dialect is widely used in everyday tv and radio. you are lying again, faggot
the tv station have the right to edit what they want. they edit sex scenes. they edit hokkien song because they want the show to be totally in chinese, who are you to tell them what to edit? faggot.
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Just go msia and u can see their shows in hokkien and cantonese. Sometimes i wished i could see a HK movie in canto, in well of cos the cinemas.
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do you deny that you can't show me one policy that aims to wipe out dialect?
Stop trying to deny that there exists a policy of suppressing local dialects in state media.
That is very foolish.
Everyone knows that such a policy exists.
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
This does not mean you will be reducing your cultural heritage, but only standardizing your heritage. It is basically the same thing. In fact, you are harmonizing and closing the gap with the other Chinese groups with their cultural heritage.
That is an odd logic.
I think it is bullshit.
What makes you says so, Poh..?
I think if Lee Kuan Yew forbids Mandarin and promotes dialects, you will be making a thread about anti-dialect instead.
Dont be so anti LKY.
This doesnt have anything to do with LKY.
Just for this instance, he is correct, so dont ruin this correct policy.
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if there is a polling/voting in sgforums wouldn't it b so fun??
we can see actual numbers support vs against
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Originally posted by Meat Pao:
All those Hokkien/ Hakka/ Cantonese are basically dialects, of a same root language.
They are not a different separate language.
Thats why they are called "dialects"
Basically it is different pronounciation, accent, and so on, of the same root language.
In my opinion, now in the 21st century, it is better to standardize this root language, not to perpetuate the differering and competing dialects of this language.
This does not mean you will be reducing your cultural heritage, but only standardizing your heritage. It is basically the same thing. In fact, you are harmonizing and closing the gap with the other Chinese groups with their cultural heritage.
So that will be condusive to build a common identity rather than "Hokkien, Hakka, Cantonese"
Wrong info. Come on, talk responsibly, not based on your common knowledge. U know mandarin was also a dialect? -
Originally posted by Ah Chia:
do you deny that you can't show me one policy that aims to wipe out dialect?
Stop trying to deny that there exists a policy of suppressing local dialects in state media.
That is very foolish.
Everyone knows that such a policy exists.
did i deny that? show me proof, faggot. stop lying about that, faggot. i post so many times here faggot, show me one post that says that, faggot..
if not, you are just a faggot and a liar.
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Who here thinks that Liu Bei spoke Mandarin?
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I think HK made a mistake because they dont want to adopt Mandarin.
Taiwan under DPP was inching towards mistakes as well, now Hokkien is getting more used there.
These two areas, compared to singapore, which has more cultural morale?
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Originally posted by Vendettus:
I do not support.
It's not much of a policy, anyway. Just a statement of his views. He could say anything he wants, but if people won't comply, it's useless.
I is my personal belief that culture is vital in society such as thus.
Why not make Malays learn Mandarin as well? If Malays learn Mandarin, then they 'can speak to 1,300 million Chinese from all provinces in China'. Surely, the reach would be far, far greater than that of the Malay language?Do you really think that is analoguous..?
Of course Malays should learn Malays.
Perhaps the correct comparison is between differing Malay dialects, if there are any.
In the case of differing Malay dialects, of course it is better to learn and promote 1 standard.
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
Who here thinks that Liu Bei spoke Mandarin?
what's the link?
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
Wrong info. Come on, talk responsibly, not based on your common knowledge. U know mandarin was also a dialect?u r knowledgeable. i like that
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
Wrong info. Come on, talk responsibly, not based on your common knowledge. U know mandarin was also a dialect?To "standardize" something something, of course you have to use something.
For this purpose, Mandarin is used as a standardization.
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did i deny that?
You agree that state media suppresses local dialects comrade?
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Originally posted by skythewood:
what's the link?
rock star is trying to show us that historical figures need not be speaking a standard language to survive -
Originally posted by Ah Chia:
did i deny that?
You agree that state media suppresses local dialects comrade?
you didn't answer my question, faggot, and you dare to ask me question faggot? why do you lie so much, faggot?
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I think HK made a mistake because they dont want to adopt Mandarin.
Taiwan under DPP was inching towards mistakes as well, now Hokkien is getting more used there.
These two areas, compared to singapore, which has more cultural morale?
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you didn't answer my question
What question comrade skythewood?
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Originally posted by Meat Pao:
To "standardize" something something, of course you have to use something.
For this purpose, Mandarin is used as a standardization.
but den all these r based on economic sense. wat 13 billion speaking so we must followfrench pp speak french n learn english as 2nd lang. they do not see that english is number 1 popular and they have to treat english as their 1st lang
not realli every one so money $$ face some pp oso wan Cantonese to be used as a standardization oso can
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Originally posted by Meat Pao:
Do you really think that is analoguous..?
Of course Malays should learn Malays.
Perhaps the correct comparison is between differing Malay dialects, if there are any.
In the case of differing Malay dialects, of course it is better to learn and promote 1 standard.
Isn't the crux of the proposal to benefit Singaporeans? Had China not been modernizing at such a rapid rate, do you think LKY would suggest something like this?
So while benefiting Singaporean Chinese, why not extend his 'policy' to Malays too? Surely, you would agree that Mandarin-speaking Malays would be able to reach out to more people than Malay-speaking ones? -
Originally posted by Ah Chia:
you didn't answer my question
What question comrade skythewood?
faggot ah chia, can't even read?
fuck off, learn to read, faggot.
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Originally posted by Bangulzai:
rock star is trying to show us that historical figures need not be speaking a standard language to surviveI can understand that.
But in the ancient days, it is different than now.
I think now, in 21st century, with frequent and intensive contacts, it is better to just adopt a common language.
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
I think HK made a mistake because they dont want to adopt Mandarin.
Taiwan under DPP was inching towards mistakes as well, now Hokkien is getting more used there.
These two areas, compared to singapore, which has more cultural morale?
faggot ah chia, too stupid that you have to post the same thing twice, minnutes apart?
why are you so stupid, faggot!