It was a terrible idea that should never have happened.
I think taking other people's land to set up jewish state in middle east is an insane idea.
If the oppressed jews in europe want to flee their countries and live in Palestine, they can do so as immigrants, like the current flooding of foreigners in Singapore now; not grab other people's land and set up their own state.
Originally posted by Saroa20:For those of you who haven't been following along with the latest out of the occupied territories, the Gaza, and Israel, let me fill you in. Israel, in response to rocket attacks out of the Gaza has shut off fuel, electricity and water to the Gaza, in effect punishing the entire population, most of which have not committed any acts of violence towards Israel.
There have been many discussions about the Palestinians wanting to wipe Israel off the map, yet when one looks at the map of the region, it is in fact the Palestinians who are being driven "off the map", and the United States has done nothing to condemn what is seen by many as collective punishment or even ethnic cleansing.
The 2 parties are not equal, we always hear in the news “ both parties should stop "Comparison is not valid" we should look at the bigger picture it’s a rock against a tank, apache helicopters, grenades, International media and the list goes on.
Things like 9/11 happen daily in Palestine only like 10X more inhuman all due to American funds... From this view it is quite simple to see the injustice.
Palestine Moslems and Christians were driven out of their homes whole families and tribes just to make room for the Jews I don’t see how its fair and yes the reason behind the west supporting is both a tactical military point of view and also the fundamental conservatives the religious right if you will who believe that Jesus will descend there...!!!!!!........it’s a sad situation....yet no remedy for the people of Palestine.
For Humanity regardless of the nature of people, we can help them by spreading the photos over the Internet. We can do it at home and this is the simplest.
Thank you all
wow, so there is so many ways israel can fuck with Hamas and there are still rockets fired at Israel? THEY ARE NOT VERY SMART TO FUCK WITH ISRAEL THAN, AREN'T THEY?
than there is a simple way around this. don't fire rocket at Israel, stop anyone from firing rockets at Israel. Since they are not very smart, than there is a simple way to learn. you fuck with Israel, you suffer. What did you think Israel should react to rocket from Gaza? take it lying down like an idiot?
Sheesh...
don't fire rocket at Israel
But Israel invaded the gaza strip.
Originally posted by Saroa20:Personally I'm dead-against Israel existing as a nation. There was no need for it to be made, and the western nations have gone and supported it to a ludicrous extent with military funding and, as has been noted, ignoring it's massive human rights violations.
In addition, creating a country by annexing part of another one and forcibly removing the current residents (I know, I know, not the original plan, but that's how it ended up working out, and no one, save the residents, really seemed to care.) is an unjustifiable idea anyways.
Today Terrorism is defined by the American government as the threat or the use of violence to advance a political cause by individuals or groups, whether acting for or in opposition to established governmental authority, when such actions are intended to shock, stun, or intimidate a target group wider than the immediate victims. Actually such a general definition will include all wars of liberation from the American War of Independence to the French Revolution. The worst aspect and perhaps the most common feature of terrorism is the unleashing of violence against innocent civilians.
things like 9/11 happen daily in palestine only like 10X more inhuman all due to american funds..
Finally, the creation of Israel has so upset the political balance in the middle east that wars are still being fought over it sixty years later.
It was a terrible idea that should never have happened.
It happened. no matter how much people whined, Israel is a fact.
Originally posted by Ah Chia:don't fire rocket at Israel
But Israel invaded the gaza strip.
Becoz SOMEONE provoked them first...
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:Becoz SOMEONE provoked them first...
you know, it is so OBVIOUS that i don't even want to post that. but thanks anyway.
Becoz SOMEONE provoked them first...
Israel grabbed their land to set up state.
So who provoked who first?
This is also should be quite obvious.
But not to everyone, so I posted it here.
Originally posted by Ah Chia:Becoz SOMEONE provoked them first...
Israel grabbed their land to set up state.
So who provoked who first?
Wrong again. Israel didn't grab the land to set up the state. Blame the British mandate of Palestine for going against their world to the Arabs...
Blame the British mandate of Palestine for going against their world to the Arabs...
But the zionists lobbied for it.
Originally posted by Ah Chia:Becoz SOMEONE provoked them first...
Israel grabbed their land to set up state.
So who provoked who first?
This is also should be quite obvious.
But not to everyone, so I posted it here.
you want to talk ancient history? than you can go argue with Israel, and tell them to dissapear. and tell the caucasian of North america to fuck off, return all the land to the natives... Get all the Chinese in Singapore to return to China....
Israel is a fact. you fuck with them, they will fuck you. simple logic.
Originally posted by skythewood:you want to talk ancient history? than you can go argue with Israel, and tell them to dissapear. and tell the caucasian of North america to fuck off, return all the land to the natives... Get all the Chinese in Singapore to return to China....
Israel is a fact. you fuck with them, they will fuck you. simple logic.
Exactly, Israel is a sovereign country recognised by most other states in the world(including Singapore)...
Every sovereign country has the sovereign right to protect their sovereignity...
Think about it... Most of the most powerful countries support/recognise Israel's right to exist(e.g U.K, USA, China, Brasil, Russian Federation, Switzerland, France, and even former foe Germany)...
whatever it is, man made history as what it is today, and by today, if peoples still dun get enlighted, too bad. I have never fancy their God or whatever, God is suppose to be bring goodness, harmony and peace, but unfortuntely, it deepen the root of wars and evils.
Instead of recupering what mistakes history had made, the peoples there are making more and more mistakes. God bless them.
Israel is a fact. you fuck with them, they will fuck you. simple logic.
Same with Palestinians.
Want to grab their land, drive them out of their homes, occupy them, kill civilians, then be prepared for retaliation.
Don't go and whine about it.
There is a price to pay for occupying other people's land.
Originally posted by Ah Chia:Israel is a fact. you fuck with them, they will fuck you. simple logic.
Same with Palestinians.
Want to grab their land, drive them out of their homes, occupy them, kill civilians, then be prepared for retaliation.
Is a fact only by the holy stuff which is still very vague...Uncle, u are better with singapore, so one day the muslims from North and South start claim that Singapore belong to them, how???
Originally posted by Ah Chia:Israel is a fact. you fuck with them, they will fuck you. simple logic.
Same with Palestinians.
Want to grab their land, drive them out of their homes, occupy them, kill civilians, then be prepared for retaliation.
Don't go and whine about it.
There is a price to pay for occupying other people's land.
Hamas is a terrorist organisation. Israel is a sovereign country. Israel is not in the list of state sponsers of terrorism...
Anyway it takes two hands to clap...
Originally posted by angel7030:Is a fact only by the holy stuff which is still very vague...Uncle, u are better with singapore, so one day the muslims from North and South start claim that Singapore belong to them, how???
Aiyoh~
Don't talk about religion like that in Singapore... Big no-no... Huge taboo.
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:Think about it... Most of the most powerful countries support/recognise Israel's right to exist(e.g U.K, USA, China, Brasil, Russian Federation, Switzerland, France, and even former foe Germany)...
i don't think of this as american idol, people support means win.
I think of this as the country with the ability to defend itself. It is easy for Israel to complete it's objective (survive), but not for the others (kill all Israelis). Heck, Israel is strong enough to invade those country if they need to.
They exist. You don't recognize them as a country, you are just being foolish. There is only one way to make them go away, and I doubt any country over there can win the fight.
Originally posted by skythewood:i don't think of this as american idol, people support means win.
I think of this as the country with the ability to defend itself. It is easy for Israel to complete it's objective (survive), but not for the others (kill all Israelis). Heck, Israel is strong enough to invade those country if they need to.
They exist. You don't recognize them as a country, you are just being foolish. There is only one way to make them go away, and I doubt any country over there can win the fight.
Hello~ I am pro-Israel... I definitely recognise them as a sovereign country, no thx to my Jewish roots...
Israel is a Terrorist State by Definition: Chomsky
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22067.htm
ISRAEL'S SACRED TERRORISM
http://chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/essays/rokach.html
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/irae-j21.shtml
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/isr2-j23.shtml
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:Aiyoh~
Don't talk about religion like that in Singapore... Big no-no... Huge taboo.
Well, u hv to be realistic about it, we are also surrounded by muslim states, any turn of events can be diseaster for all.
Me go join NS
Originally posted by Ah Chia:Israel is a fact. you fuck with them, they will fuck you. simple logic.
Same with Palestinians.
Want to grab their land, drive them out of their homes, occupy them, kill civilians, then be prepared for retaliation.
Don't go and whine about it.
There is a price to pay for occupying other people's land.
if israel want to invade and kill all the palestinians, they can. and you don't see Israel whining about it. They do something about it.
Originally posted by skythewood:if israel want to invade and kill all the palestinians, they can. and you don't see Israel whining about it. They do something about it.
Right on!
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:Hello~ I am pro-Israel... I definitely recognise them as a sovereign country, no thx to my Jewish roots...
i'm not pro israel. i just think stupid people should stop playing with fire and than cry when they get burned. you can debate with the other guy about the origin of israel or what ever... I won't argue about things like that.
if israel want to invade and kill all the palestinians, they can.
Do you approve of it?