Originally posted by poker69:just wonder can u train when u inside ISD?
He was kept inside ISD for more then a year still can have such a good stamina?
Have to run away from whitely and swim to malaysia?
Hey, nothing is impossible.
If u got a ankle sprain and some dogs are chasing after u, believe me, u can and will run.
Its the same for Mas Selemat, if he had to do it, he will do it.
Originally posted by Short Ninja:A terror attack on Singapore in the near future is possible and must be taken seriously....What was Mas Selamat planning about? He had 3 'JI buddies' to talk cock with him about it for over 8 mths and we dont really know how close he was to even get a hold of a 'stink bomb' from a novelty shop.Now that he is finally caught we can all go have a good night sleep but stop this paranoia.
An attack on Singapore need not necessarily occur on Singapore soil.
As in the other attacks on US and Israeli interests, it had occurred many times on foreign soil - from Argentina to Lebanon, from Kenya to Yemen.
The US Embassies were bombed in Kenya and Lebanon, a Jewish synagogue was destroyed in Argentina, the US Destroyer Cole was bombed in the harbor in Yemen.
Was MSK targeting Singapore Island itself when caught in Skudai in Johor State, or was he targeting Singapore's interests that exist in the State of Johor ?
There are quite a few rich targets that are owned by the State of Singapore - one of which is the Skudai Water Works operated by Singapore Water Department, and the other is the Johor City Square owned by Temasek.
Can we ever stop being a little paranoid ?
To do so is to drop the sense of imagination that will be needed to be one step ahead of the thoughts of a terrorist's devious minds that constantly search for imaginative ways to score political points against Singapore.
Originally posted by likedatosocan:Interesting GetReal! style citizen journalism on possible path he could have used to escape to Malaysia : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aahqRoKJmT4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwayangparty%2Ecom%2F%3Fp%3D9168&feature=player_embedded
Judge for yourselves.
I watched the video and I must say that place was certainly a possible escape route for Mas Selamat.
I had been there fishing before and it can get really secluded at night. I wont be surprise if he can swim across unnoticed.
Originally posted by jgho83:Hey, nothing is impossible.
If u got a ankle sprain and some dogs are chasing after u, believe me, u can and will run.
Its the same for Mas Selemat, if he had to do it, he will do it.
Wat toking U? He didn't have an ankle sprain no dogs were chasing him.He used a toilet ,flushed it ,climbed out the window ,strolled to the beach and floated to freedom.
Originally posted by Short Ninja:Wat toking U? He didn't have an ankle sprain no dogs were chasing him.He used a toilet ,flushed it ,climbed out the window ,strolled to the beach and floated to freedom.
I am sure u didnt get the full meaning... go and read properly again. Cheers.
My wife likes to call Mas selamat Kastari nickname Nasi Lemat because she couldn't speak good English. I hope the government is not making all this a wayang wayang to keep us away from focusing on our problems of unemployments right here in Singapore.![]()
Originally posted by Fantagf:
First case was someone used another person's passport and immigration was not aware of it. Second case was an old man or old lady returned to sg, immigration had no record the departure of this person.Funny, fishy, what are those people doing at immigration. They don't do good job our life is at risk.
You must understand who are they in reality? Do you think all immigration officers are Singaporeans by birth and how much are they really paid to hold so much responsibilities. It is what you'd get is what you've paid. Why must our government use cheap labours to compromise the qualities of such important manpower? Our government thinks terrorists in Singapore are those who have been arrested and those who are not arrested could be around a few hundreds of them. I personally suspect they are much more than what our government believes. Despite the Qur'an doesn't preach terrorism, most Muslims might have secretly supported the way terrorists acted against our government. Do you really know how many crazy people have just crossed the causeway to Singapore or Johore without submitting their passports for clarification? There must be a blind spot somewhere because I personally know about it but I did suggest to our government with an illustration of my Causeway Checkpoint plan long time ago. The ombudsmen might have discarded all my suggestions into their trash for good. I will not waste my precious time again to suggest anything to them to protect Singapore anymore. Their complacency can never work against the intelligence of terrorists as year goes by. My age is catching up and I couldn't bother about it anymore. However, I have one question. How did Mas selamat Kastari manage to get the comfortable accomodation immediately upon reaching Johore? Something is very fishy about him and there must be supporters around here and in Johore. Whatever, we must not sleep in the MRT train too often because we may be killed not knowing how we are murdered.![]()
Originally posted by Fantagf:
First case was someone used another person's passport and immigration was not aware of it. Second case was an old man or old lady returned to sg, immigration had no record the departure of this person.Funny, fishy, what are those people doing at immigration. They don't do good job our life is at risk.
You must understand who are they in reality? Do you think all immigration officers are Singaporeans by birth and how much are they really paid to hold so much responsibilities. It is what you'd get is what you've paid. Why must our government use cheap labours to compromise the qualities of such important manpower? Our government thinks terrorists in Singapore are those who have been arrested and those who are not arrested could be around a few hundreds of them. I personally suspect they are much more than what our government believes. Despite the Qur'an doesn't preach terrorism, most Muslims might have secretly supported the way terrorists acted against our government. Do you really know how many crazy people have just crossed the causeway to Singapore or Johore without submitting their passports for clarification? There must be a blind spot somewhere because I personally know about it but I did suggest to our government with an illustration of my Causeway Checkpoint plan long time ago. The ombudsmen might have discarded all my suggestions into their trash for good. I will not waste my precious time again to suggest anything to them to protect Singapore anymore. Their complacency can never work against the intelligence of terrorists as year goes by. My age is catching up and I couldn't bother about it anymore. However, I have one question. How did Mas selamat Kastari manage to get the comfortable accomodation immediately upon reaching Johore? Something is very fishy about him and there must be supporters around here and in Johore. Whatever, we must not sleep in the MRT train too often because we may be killed not knowing how we are murdered.![]()
Originally posted by Fantagf:
First case was someone used another person's passport and immigration was not aware of it. Second case was an old man or old lady returned to sg, immigration had no record the departure of this person.Funny, fishy, what are those people doing at immigration. They don't do good job our life is at risk.
You must understand who are they in reality? Do you think all immigration officers are Singaporeans by birth and how much are they really paid to hold so much responsibilities. It is what you'd get is what you've paid. Why must our government use cheap labours to compromise the qualities of such important manpower? Our government thinks terrorists in Singapore are those who have been arrested and those who are not arrested could be around a few hundreds of them. I personally suspect they are much more than what our government believes. Despite the Qur'an doesn't preach terrorism, most Muslims might have secretly supported the way terrorists acted against our government. Do you really know how many crazy people have just crossed the causeway to Singapore or Johore without submitting their passports for clarification? There must be a blind spot somewhere because I personally know about it but I did suggest to our government with an illustration of my Causeway Checkpoint plan long time ago. The ombudsmen might have discarded all my suggestions into their trash for good. I will not waste my precious time again to suggest anything to them to protect Singapore anymore. Their complacency can never work against the intelligence of terrorists as year goes by. My age is catching up and I couldn't bother about it anymore. However, I have one question. How did Mas selamat Kastari manage to get the comfortable accomodation immediately upon reaching Johore? Something is very fishy about him and there must be supporters around here and in Johore. Whatever, we must not sleep in the MRT train too often because we may be killed not knowing how we are murdered.![]()
wow, must post 3, threee times.
There was and still is a network for prisoner of war and spies worldwide who are able to escape.Mas Selamat,like an elite soldier was trained to memorise contact imformation and as you can see JI may be weakenened but they are still able to man their network.
Originally posted by BJK:So many commendations on MSK’ arrest although the security forces took nearly 14 months whilst he was just a stone throw away in Skudai (JB). I would like to see that justice is done so charge him in court especially there is new evidence that he was planning to attack Sg according to statement in the newspapers coming from Malaysian PM. We should not use the excuse that intelligence and information will be compromise if MSK is charged in open court.
We should show the world that justice is done according to law.
If Chia Thye Poh can be locked up for 32 years without being charged - and released without any document or conditions made, why should MSK be charged.
It has always been the Government's position that in such trials, the safety of the witnesses is paramount, and the Government cannot assure the security of witnesses from being targets of hit-squads.
We should be more generous towards our Political Prisoners, and less towards these terrorists - who will not hesitate to execute wanton destruction of innocent lives and precious properties.
Originally posted by Nighthawkies:I think it is unwise to charge Mas Selamat in an open court.
Similar to the reporters, the police also have sources that they cannot reveal. This may create more problem as there may be things that the police cannot reveal. If in open court, more would be revealed to the public. It would be of interest to most of us but also to the criminals or terrorists.
You want them to know the possible targets that could be attacked and have a rough idea how to do it? You want them to know how the police track down criminal so that they can aviod it much easier next time?
Think about it…
Why not?
The so-called 20th hijacker Moussaoui was hauled to court, likewise Al-Qaeda terrorist mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Zubayda if i am not wrong. What is Mas Selamat compared to this kingpins?
Crucial intelligence how-to or SOP need not be revealed to the public. Just hightlight his involvement and plans to conduct terrorist incidents. Combating terror is one thing, but desecending to their level is another.
Double
Any idea what najob will tell our premier loong when he visits this week?
give me my million$ reward or i'll blow you to pieces?
when people tell u sg so small sure get caught if u try to hide .. f them upside down.
malaysia so big even easier to get caught
if i ever wonder of the sg govt were to offer selamat the $1 million prize they put on his head earlier, will he change his ways and do all his network and supporters in?
Money does wonders.instead of condemn him, we should offer him cash incentives and let him stay in singapore sentosa in exile . U can never know, he may be tempted by the incentives
wat i think is dat Mr MSK is being pao toh-ed
You know the show Wu Jian Dao?
Or else how he kena caught?
The neighbour living around him don't even know he is the wanted man!!
Originally posted by Lohck:when people tell u sg so small sure get caught if u try to hide .. f them upside down.
malaysia so big even easier to get caught
Selamat is not smart. he hid in a pysically visible house in Malaysia when he should be hiding underground.One aerial sweep with UAV will reveal everything what normal eyes cannot see.
How he got caught could be anybody's guess.I have 2.He was betrayed for $$$ by the same man who harbored him.MSK cut a deal with the Malaysian government and surrendered on his own free will.