Western democracy should just go to hell, LKY is Right
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
To me you are a filthy person, longinchjohn.
well, to be or not to be. Good night Uncle, me go work liao. -
Originally posted by angel7030:
Good night Uncle, me go work liao.Surely you can continue posting while you're on your back?
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well, to be or not to be. Good night Uncle, me go work liao.
Fuck off lah longinchjohn, you filth.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
let be objective, we got to be realistic about it, because of LKY, we are here,...
what statement! i think you milf too much, too often....
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Without LKY singapore prob wouldn't have been a first world country in just 30 odd years. If anyone could have done a better job, go run for election
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Maybe you ought to read the thread before mouthing off, tiger. You could end up looking silly otherwise.
Whoops, too late.
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Originally posted by dadeadman1337:
Without LKY singapore prob wouldn't have been a first world country in just 30 odd years. If anyone could have done a better job, go run for election
A first world in expenses but not first world income for the majority except for a bunch of ruling eltists. Just a facade, my friend.
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Singaporeans still earn a lot more than most of our neighbours
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Originally posted by dadeadman1337:
Singaporeans still earn a lot more than most of our neighbours
Ofcors.. we singaporeans LOVE to compare ourselves with less fortunate people. LOL..!!!
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Originally posted by dadeadman1337:
Singaporeans still earn a lot more than most of our neighbours
Do you think that's necessarily a good thing? You really do have rocks in your head, don't you?
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No other country w/o natural resources has reached this standard in a short time
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Originally posted by dadeadman1337:
No other country w/o natural resources has reached this standard in a short time
Is that what our schools are teaching students ? Oh geesh...
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yes i agree, all the other countries were developing slowly..
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Is that what our schools are teaching students ? Oh geesh...
Do you have any examples to prove otherwise?
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No other country w/o natural resources has reached this standard in a short time
Foundations were already there in 1930s.
It is incorrect to say that PAP developed Singapore out from nothing.
Singapore - Crossroads of the East 1938
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Originally posted by dadeadman1337:
Do you have any examples to prove otherwise?
Have you ever heard of the "resource curse" ? Do some research and try to think outside the indoctrinations at school. ...then tell me.. if that statement you posted before still stands.
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Foundations were not that strong and there was unrest due to insecurity and fears aft the Brits left, so i'll say they did a good job with what they got
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Have you ever heard of the "resource curse" ? Do some research and try to think outside the indoctrinations at school. ...then tell me.. if that statement you posted before still stands.
The resource curse is actually due to poor governance. Russia is one country to have vast amts of resouces, yet the ruble remains strong. The difference with a country with NR and one without is that it is easier to manage with NR. If the govt had been a failure, we would have been annexed long ago.
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Originally posted by dadeadman1337:
No other country w/o natural resources has reached this standard in a short time
Tsk tsk tsk. Is dragging out ancient history the best argument you can produce?
Forget the good old days. let's see what's been happening recently, with some figures from the Ministry of Manpower. First, there's retrenchments:
Q1 2008: 2420
Q2 2008: 1880
Q3 2008: 3180
Q4 2008: 9410
Q1 2009: 12600What about unemployment?
Q1 2008: 2.8%
Q2 2008: 3.1%
Q3 2008: 3.4%
Q4 2008: 3.6%
Q1 2009: 4.8%So what the fuck's going on here? The numbers speak for themselves.
Go ahead and crow about the government's PSLE results - they're failing their O-levels right now and people are just going to shake their heads about how the promising child turned out to be such a waste.
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Originally posted by dadeadman1337:
The resource curse is actually due to poor governance. Russia is one country to have vast amts of resouces, yet the ruble remains strong. The difference with a country with NR and one without is that it is easier to manage with NR. If the govt had been a failure, we would have been annexed long ago.
Yawnz... yeah right.. have you like try to "google" it ? Ya know.. use the search function ?
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Hah peanuts compared to the US with 8.9% unemployment and 13.7 w/o jobs. Its like trying to compare the Great Depression with the industrial revolution
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Some how or rather, the regime has some of the populace fixated on the point that "if there is no LKY there will be no Singapore", Hong Kong with the same deficient resources with no LKY ended up better than Singapore.
Seriously, Singapore would have ended up more or less the same if it had stick with the British system. Singapore's success is the result of her geographic position and her demographics, the results would have been the same if any above average government took over in the 1960s.
I think LKY did much harm to the local economy in the long term rather than good, especially in the area of housing, where public housing is provided for the majority of the population. This shifts the balance of capital towards the government crowding out the capital for the private sector. No capital in the private hands, hence where does the multiplier come in. It is a well known fact that centrally planned economies can't make accurate production schedules, so how will a centrally planned government make proper investment decisions.
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I think LKY did much harm to the local economy in the long term
That is also my view.
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Originally posted by deepak.c:
Some how or rather, the regime has some of the populace fixated on the point that "if there is no LKY there will be no Singapore", Hong Kong with the same deficient resources with no LKY ended up better than Singapore.
Seriously, Singapore would have ended up more or less the same if it had stick with the British system. Singapore's success is the result of her geographic position and her demographics, the results would have been the same if any above average government took over in the 1960s.
I think LKY did much harm to the local economy in the long term rather than good, especially in the area of housing, where public housing is provided for the majority of the population. This shifts the balance of capital towards the government crowding out the capital for the private sector. No capital in the private hands, hence where does the multiplier come in. It is a well known fact that centrally planned economies can't make accurate production schedules, so how will a centrally planned government make proper investment decisions.
True, the inhibit of diversity by centrally planned system. Lab controlled.
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Originally posted by dadeadman1337:
Hah peanuts compared to the US with 8.9% unemployment and 13.7 w/o jobs. Its like trying to compare the Great Depression with the industrial revolution
I figured you'd say something like that so I left a sting in the tail, junior. The unemployment figures I listed earlier was only for residents (R). Let's put it next to the overall (O) figures:
R O
Q1 2008: 2.8% 1.9%
Q2 2008: 3.1% 2.2%
Q3 2008: 3.4% 2.3%
Q4 2008: 3.6% 2.5%
Q1 2009: 4.8% 3.2%Yeah, you're right - looking at other countries, everybody's in shit right now. And while everybody's in shit, the government's happily looking after strangers while their own people suffer.