Originally posted by Genie99a:Aiya he is not saying they cannot hire whoever they like.
He is just saying in layman .... "why ads in the paper actually rather pay for work permit to hire cheap foreign labour or hire PR's only. Shouldn't the garment enforce policies to make it more attractive to hire local SG ppl."
Kind Regards
Genie
Got mah, Singapore govt already gives job credit to employers who employ Singaporeans, and for Singaporeans, you dun hv to care about their housing, levies, tax etc etc, so i think the problem is not about cheap labour, actually, with levies and taxes and housing pay for by employer in getting cheap labour, it is not cheap anymore, they can easily get a singaporeans and paid him $1300 without levy, housing and taxes to worry and yet can get job credit from govt.
So, i dun see a problem in wages, i see a problem with Singaporeans demography, attitude and behavior towards work.
angelk70
wait till people froom china and india earn more than $2k/mth in china and then u will see their attitude and demo in front of u.they are almnost there in china salary wise in 7 years!!!...
Originally posted by angel7030:the position was place on internet, and internet is international, so if i want to recruit PRC gals, can i said, singaporean can apply??? so the boss must have wanted malaysia, our traditional source, it is better than PRC or indian right??? And it must be of no choice that the company is unable to get singaporeans, they have to search in malaysia, saving cost on advertising in malaysia, they used the net, which is of course free. So what is the big fuss??? and why is it link to our pay structure and the ministers paid??? Is there a hidden agenda in your paper??
That is up to the companies what they want.
Govt has little much to do about it.
Just like eg) a foreign company, advertised saying need malaysian only....
What can govt do?
Originally posted by Hitman_:
angelk70
wait till people froom china and india earn more than $2k/mth in china and then u will see their attitude and demo in front of u.they are almnost there in china salary wise in 7 years!!!...
by that time, it will the next generation, their (the foreigner) young ones will be true singaporeans already, that is what our govt is trying to do, please understand them, govt is trying to help us, please tarhan abit now, for the glory days will come soon.
Originally posted by likeyou:
That is up to the companies what they want.Govt has little much to do about it.
Just like eg) a foreign company, advertised saying need malaysian only....
What can govt do?
Why u ask me, i also said the same mah. siao liao
Originally posted by angel7030:
Why u ask me, i also said the same mah. siao liao
Same boat with you lah.
steam boat??
Originally posted by angel7030:steam boat??
Ok, let's go dinner.
Originally posted by likeyou:
Ok, let's go dinner.
Ritz or ION?
Originally posted by angel7030:
Ritz or ION?
No money, coffee shop can? :)
Originally posted by likeyou:
No money, coffee shop can? :)
what coffee shop, damage my MANGO dress lor...chay, no money talk so much for what, no money sit down and shut up
Originally posted by angel7030:
what coffee shop, damage my MANGO dress lor...chay, no money talk so much for what, no money sit down and shut up
I ask my driver to fetch you and we go coffee shop.
Boleh?
Bus or taxi driver?? Bus also got Volvo, Jaguar and Merc hor, you think i stupid ar??
Originally posted by angel7030:Bus or taxi driver?? Bus also got Volvo, Jaguar and Merc hor, you think i stupid ar??
Pte driver. You my honey, where got stupid.
Originally posted by likeyou:
Pte driver. You my honey, where got stupid.
You dont honey too much with your 'horny angel' wait later turned out she is a man how??? From using honey you will have to switch to butter..wouldnt that be a pain in the ass?
Originally posted by Short Ninja:
You dont honey too much with your 'horny angel' wait later turned out she is a man how??? From using honey you will have to switch to butter..wouldnt that be a pain in the ass?
Ha....
ya lor, likeyou, i support what ninja said. A couple of us know angel7030 and longinchjohn. We believe angel7030 is longinchjohn. We know these nicks way back in YMB (Yahoo message board which was closed down after lee hsien loong visited yahoo in US). longinchjohn is one kind of a character. some forumers here believe that the nick angel7030 is shared between angel and her brother longinchjohn.
AAHHHh Cheewwww!!!! some shorty talk bad about me hor....must be...no wonder sneezed so hard...
Politic always so 'Black', every country also same, just you know or don't know yet only.
Black politics only happen in Africa or even now in America, there are lots of blacks in politics in those countries, ours is not Black, but dirty ya.
January 10, 2010
By Richard Lu
“You know, the cure for all this talk is really a good dose of incompetent government. You get that alternative and you’ll never put Singapore together again: Humpty Dumpty cannot be put together again…and your asset values will be in peril, your security will be at risk and our women will become maids in other people’s countries, foreign workers.’”
(Lee Kuan Yew justifying pay hikes for Singapore ministers, The Straits Times, 5 April 2007)
Singaporeans are an apathetic lot, always afraid to express an opinion or to take risk, preferring others to make the first move. They are afraid that the vote is not secret and fear losing their jobs if found out they voted the opposition. They are afraid to express the truth about someone in power. They are even afraid to speak up about things that effecting them directly e.g. the high cost of living, unemployment and poor quality life.
This is because they are quite unaware about their rights to free, fair and honest expression. The ISA inherited from the British and perfected by the PAP has a lot to do with this “Politics of Fear” resulting in PAP getting away with intimidations and threats. Consider these coercions:
a. Lee Kuan Yew (2006): “Please don’t assume that you can change governments. Young people don’t understand this.”
b. Lee Kuan Yew (2006):“Without the elected President and if there is a freak (election) result, within two or three years, the army would have to come in and stop it.”
If we dare to dream and we live our dreams…….. then imagine this:
Singaporeans get an opposition government and as promised, they reverse some of these past bad policies e.g.
1. Revise ministerial and civil service pay to a realistic level;
2. Revert to the original constitution and strengthen citizen rights and abolish ISA, EP, GRC and NCMP;
3. Abolish the following appointments – Minister Mentor, Senior Minister, Ministry Without Portfolio, Minister in the Prime Minister’s Office, Minister of State and Parliamentary Secretary; and
4. Repeal Newspaper and Printing Presses Act of 1974 (NPPA) with all its attendant amendments permitting state control of the media, Legal Profession (Amendment) Act of 1987 (LP(A)A of1987), Public Order Act 2009 (POA), Official Secrets Acts (OSA).
To prevent collusion, corruption and nepotism, the opposition government then presses into law the following:
5. Limiting to one (1) Deputy Prime Minister;
Limiting the number of ministries and appointments to minister and deputy minister only;
Limiting Prime Minister and Ministers to a maximum two terms;
Limiting the age of MPs to 65 years; and
Limiting MPs to a maximum services life of 15 years;
6. Preventing MPs and civil servants from sitting on boards of listed companies; and
7. Preventing PM and Ministers from appointing their family members and relatives to GLC companies, Temasek and GIC.
To assist Singaporeans and attain a good standard of living, the opposition institute and implement the following:
8. Minimum wage;
9. Freedom of Information rules;
10. Policies to regulate and limit foreigners workers and new citizens into Singapore;
11. Polices to safeguard Singaporeans’ interests – good housing, health, education etc.;
12. Independent panels to oversee judicial appointments, ministerial pay, civil service & military appointments, election boundaries; and
13. Independent panels to oversee our sovereign wealth – GIC, Temasek and CPF;
To liberalize the political landscape and level the playing field for all political parties:
14. Free the local media from Govt. and PAP control;
15. Establish permanent Judicial Commission to hear complaints of political nature;
16. Reduce Govt.’s participation in commerce and de-couple GLCs from Govt.;
17. De-couple the PA and NUTC from the PAP and Govt. and passes law to prevent NTUC and PA from being associated or controlled by any Government of any political parties;
18. De-couple the Police and the Military from the Government and PAP; and
19. Ensure real competition on open and fair basis for the telecom, electricity, power and gas industries;
Finally, to heal the country from years of political and mental abuses, the opposition government should:
20. Apologize to all ex-political detainees and political exiles;
21. Revoke all charges against all political detainees and annul all judgments pronounced against them and reimburse their losses (even if the Govt. has to compensate them);
22. Ask all political exiles to return and enjoin Singaporeans in the re-building of our political landscape;
24. Pay a one-time token compensation for the hardships, pain and sufferings caused to political detainees and exiles by the previous government;
25. Allow and encourage all forms of open and honest debates and discussions; and
26. Set up a Truth and Re-conciliation Commission to enable the country bring closures and heal wounds caused by the past government misdeeds.
Are we dreaming? Do we dare to live our dreams? It is not time for us to move away from this politics of fear?
Singaporeans, I ask and urge you search your innermost conscience and heart of hearts and see if the above are not what you have always want, prayed for and wished for our beloved Singapore? Yes, if we have the courage we can together rebuild a nation – a nation free of fear and one that to be proud of.
If so, Singapore really deserves immediately nothing less than a huge dose of “bad” and “incompetent” government and we Singaporeans must send to the PAP Government in no unintelligible terms (and in the MM’s words) a “good dose of election signal” by not voting PAP in the next election.
http://www.temasekreview.com/2010/01/10/yes-singapore-you-deserve-a-dose-of-incompetent-government/
eh...are you on medication??? why should we compensate the detainees??? we are also suffering because of their weakness in the earlier days that led to PAP holding full control till now, in fact, we are suffering more than the detainees, 50 years of detention in this tiny island and still not yet release...fated
Originally posted by angel7030:eh...are you on medication??? why should we compensate the detainees??? we are also suffering because of their weakness in the earlier days that led to PAP holding full control till now, in fact, we are suffering more than the detainees, 50 years of detention in this tiny island and still not yet release...fated
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Y? wake up wake up!!! alamak, i talk only, all sleep liao, LKY talks all wake up, why listen to that old tard and ignore me???