Why I oppose the happening war on Iraq.
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I can't judge this, and i can't convince u. Let experts like Atobe and tripwire give u insights about this.
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u r speechless rite?Originally posted by pocketpig II:I can't judge this, and i can't convince u. Let experts like Atobe and tripwire give u insights about this.
u can't analyse in the world's way...it keeps round n round.....PROPAGANDA n CONSPIRACY -
i'm not speechless, i still insist it's fiction, fake. As i said, let the real adults give insights on this. Even if Bush is some freemasonry worshipper he'll have to go through the congress, which he is doing now. People with qualification to go into congress must be qualified and not so naive to worship such stuff. Even amazing will be the whole congress is made up of freemasoners whatever u call it.
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u dun just look this war onli...look at iran now, india, pakistan, north korea, inside usa.....everithing is seems in line wif it
even i find amuse of the starting dae of this war
19/3 1+ 9+ 3 = 13 cocidence eh?
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it really is coincidence, it reminds me of a post sometime last year, a line of text was converted to a symbolic font and revealing that Israel planned the 911 attacks. show me more coincidences. the webmasters used creative coincidences to make their story. i don't judge things by coincidences, i trust facts.
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9-11 is the most obvious......so many 11s..... until now i have no damn idea the antrax scare they claim n the planes black boxes are...is like hanging in the air though they keep claiming is the terrorist whu did it
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they are coincidences, not facts. coincidences are really a wonder.
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how bout tis part? u got the ans?
orginally from duotiga83
until now i have no damn idea the antrax scare they claim n the planes black boxes are...is like hanging in the air -
it's your own view, how would i know what u are thinking. can rephrase sentence, i can't interprete what u are saying.
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it's your own view, how would i know what u are thinking. can rephrase sentence, i can't interprete what u are saying.
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this author makes mi think.........as i a m the same as him..nuetral on this war.....from CNA forums..
Must Read for War Protesters
Author: egoman (203.116.61.---)
Date: 03-26-03 09:37
Hey guys,
i agree that anti-war protesters should wake up.... like come on, i keep seeing people talking about reading up the facts in history... but guys, i advise that YOU GUYS take a look at the history books yourself...
what's with the conspiracy of getting oil, that Bush might use WMD on other countries... US is no angel, but that doesn't mean they are THAT shallow... risking the lives of his people and intergrity, just for things they can take but almost impossible to keep?
down with the killings of civilians and soldiers, that's nonsense people... do you guys have any idea how many people were actually killed by Saddam Hussein during his reign.. for those of you who don't actually know how many people were killed, let me enlighten your ignorant selves... it's 2 MILLION... that the number of people who were killed over his decade of ruling...
families are killed if they don't comply to him.. families as in young and old, from the newborn babies to fibble grandparents... poison gas were let off to the kurds killing thousands each time...
on the topic of WMD.... why keep comparing Bush with Saddam when it's 2 different stories... Why would Bush use the WMD on us? Why dig into their national reserves to start a world if it meant nothing... or do you guys think that it's just the start of a plot for world domination? who in the right mind would do that? i don't think anyone in this world has the ability to pull that off...
more on the WMD.... US tests their weapons in seas and in deserts... and where does Saddam Hussein test his weapons? in a desert yes, away from civilization ? the answer is a big NO... do you guys have any idea how many people were killed during his ruthless weapons test.. how do you compare that with Bush? you don't see Bush going around testing the weapons at the expense of his people?
people talk about killing of people in the war... from what i mentioned in a previous post, death is inevitable in this war... but was is a death toll of 2 million people compared to a little death which wasn't even meant to be in this war... would you prefer having a continual increasing death toll, courtesy of Saddam's rule, or would it be better to suffer a little and put an end to all the killings...
what stands do we have to protest the war? do we live there? we have totally no idea how the living conditions are over there... you guys might argue that i have no idea myself too, but people, although i dun really have, but i have seen and heard things that voice the feelings of the Iraqis and i still feel strongly about the war.. Saddam muz be brought down....
if you guys are still not convinced, here's a link to an extract of a talk show... maybe you might just change your views after listening to it...
http://komo1000news.com/audio/kvi_aircheck_031003.mp3
Author: Chryssler Lords Amberlin (219.93.64.---)
Date: 03-26-03 12:22
egoman,
I am going to tell you that this war is not what it seems to be.
Since you know more about history, let me counter your argument and you correct me back ok? Deal?
~Your 2 million death is alittle misleading and incomplete. Have you include casualties of Iraq-Iran war? If Singapore can react so angrily over a small pile of rocks that is of course have its importance, imagine a big chunks of land in dispute claimed by your neighbour! Saddam go to war with Iran over border dispute. Case close.
~Poison gas on Kurds. If Abraham Lincoln justified his case as to prevent separation of north and south and endorse a civil war, why can't Saddam prevent separation of northern Iraq by Kurds rebels? The poison gas was actually meant to be dealt against Iran in a town called Halabja....I forgot the exact name. After the war with Iran, they have amassed some US$80 billion in debt! Met with revolt in the north, Saddam felt desperate and poison gas was used to suppress revolt.
~Then invade Kuwait, a territory cutout by the British and made independence. For oil I suppose. The world reacted quickly and oust Saddam forces out. In just 39 days, more than 200,000 Iraqi people died. Have you include this figure to your 2 million deaths?
In fact, you should have remained neutral. Bush campaign and propaganda is so successful that many believed in this perceived threat. JI and Al-Qaeda is a totally different issue. Why would you believe Bush accounts of Saddam funding JI and Al-Qaeda? Please tell me what Bush said. I will read your side of the story and reply back to you.
If you are so concerned with 2 million Iraqi deaths, then tell me how many deaths caused by Osama in the World Trade Centre? Shall we count death toll in this war as well - Gulf War 2? If Bush is forced to engage this war, then Saddam too is forced to engage war with Iran.
Kuwait case is closed. Don't exploit this matter. So is the Kurds. They are safe. They even surf internet! Don't be misleaded by what you see. The people who supports US coalition 2 weeks ago today disgruntle with US coalition. Facts and distortion. Its a horrible thing of today's world. US has Weapons of Mass Distortion and Weapons of Mass Distraction campaign. Keep that in mind. -
Frankly pig tat lived in a pocketÂ… U know why Atobe and Tripwire never reply to your call for aidsÂ… it is because it is suicidal for them to do so. U r trying to say tat US attack not because of WMD, he is lying about everything, including liberation of Iraq and his true aim is to conquer the world. Iraq is just the second step while Afghan is the first. Soon they will attack British, China, Russia and of course Singapore and sparking off WWIII. Billions of people will be killed. If Human or Earth ever survive after the nuclear bombs, all Caucasians will be made first class citizen, the rest of the races second class. We will all lived under the iron arm of US as they still trying to instill discipline. How about Muslims ? They probably all killed or forced to convert. Wat about our culture ? All gone, the only culture left is the American culture.
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i already say dunnno how many damn times liao.....ppl r blinded by the western media n poilitcians.....is the NEW WORLD ORDER that the usa wans to implement it to the world......
all these terror, anthrax, war etc r just scripted out long ago......
believe it or not is up to u,,,,i yesteredae have post all the site regarding wad is NEW WORLD ORDER
CASE CLOSED
note: This war is not regards to oil or wmd......(FINAL TIME LIAO) -
and i thought the muslims were the only extremists.
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I was puzzled with your many postings and the directions of your unclear intention, as stated in my response dated 23 March 2003 04:00PM.
Tracing back your various posts that followed:
duotiga83 23 March 2003 03:52PM
now then u know? i thought u know wad the father n son r worshipping
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duotiga83 23 March 2003 04:40PM
i am not talking bout the situation....i am talking about this..... ...i know wad the situation will b like.....but have consider about this b4? juz my thought though......if u do some checking on the illumnist plan....it mayb kinda shock to u..... ..that all the current situations ard the world r in plan....as though is all being scripted out.....
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The protesters proceeded from the church to "storm" Skull and Bones, which the protesters called the "New Haven home" of Bush. The society's membership includes Bush and his father, George H.W. Bush '48.
Looking back at your post below dated 25 March 2003, then it dawned on me of your real intent in your line of argument that the current USA dominance of the world, is based on your readings of the NEW WORLD ORDER.
duotiga83 23 March 2003 04:49PM
btw this war is not about oil. i shall not say much
I am not sure how you have read the theology espoused by this new group, which I will classify as another zany upstart cult group that seems to be prevalent in this troubled times.
duotiga83 25 March 2003 06:53PM
btw if u dunno ...u r promoting Bush NEW WORLD ORDER
During the 1960Â’s we have the Indian mystic priest to bring "flower power" to the troubled western teenagers that made up the "hippie culture".
Then the Jehovah Witness came about followed by the Seven Day Adventists.
The New World Order is another cult group, and if you care to read more into it, try their site:
http://www.cuttingedge.org/
- Introduction to New World Order
http://www.jeremiahproject.com/prophecy/nworder.html
- about the "New World Order and Bible Prophecy"
If you believe that both the Father Bush and Sonny Bush are sinister members of the Freemason Movements, I have no clue of their membership - but surely you are not suggesting that the "Freemasons" is associated with the "New World Order" ?
The Freemasons is not a religious group, but it is a VERY Private Club, for very exclusive members of Society, and its branch can be found in many prosperous countries, whose Government accept their presence.
Singapore Government has banned the Jehovah Witness and do not recognize the Seven Day Adventist as a religion. It has allowed the Freemason to be a registered Society in Singapore. If they are sinister in their works and principles, they would have been banned from Singapore, but they have existed here for more then 90 years (?).
For your information, try this site:
http://www.freemasons.co.nz/about_us/about_us.htm
- About Freemasons
If you think that the objective of USA in invading Iraq is part of their grand strategy to achieve the ultimate goal of a “New World Order”, then you might as well look beyond their scheme of things on this globe, and also include their space investment as an attempt to dominate the entire Universe.
This line of thinking is similar to the paranoid thinking common among the Muslim man-on-the-street in Arab World (and also generally in the entire Muslim World).
Surprisingly, the Governments and Peoples of Afghanistan and Kuwait have not protested the USA actions in Iraq. The Afghanis memories of US help in liberating them from the terrors of the Talebans are still fresh in their mind. Sadly, some younger Kuwaitis are swayed by the Arabic fervor to participate in protesting against the US actions in Iraq as they have forgotten what USA had done for them, since their liberation had occurred 12 years ago.
Judging by your efforts in posting so many different news angles from so many different sources – from news agencies of the West, East and West Europe, Middle East, Russia, and Asia; you have not committed any of your own views openly in any way.
Instead, you had made oblique hints of your position, which I was only able to discern only after careful re-visits of your past posts, after you declare your position openly in your posting below.
I am still uncertain how you come to this conclusion that Bush Senior and Bush Junior, (and all the other Republican and Democrat Presidents), all have conspired to a common goal to change the politics, economics and social structure of all the communities in this Globe to conform to a US thinking of a NEW WORLD ORDER.
Have you forgotten that each President can only serve TWO terms in Office, serving the second term only if successfully elected back to Office, and with each term only lasting five years?
Even if there is a grand scheme of things, I will be surprised that 110 independent countries on this globe will behave like “mindless sheep”, all following one single shepherd.
[quote]Originally posted by duotiga83: 26 March 2003 06:09pmi already say dunnno how many damn times liao.....ppl r blinded by the western media n poilitcians.....is the NEW WORLD ORDER that the usa wans to implement it to the world......
all these terror, anthrax, war etc r just scripted out long ago......
believe it or not is up to u,,,,i yesteredae have post all the site regarding wad is NEW WORLD ORDER
CASE CLOSED
note: This war is not regards to oil or wmd......(FINAL TIME LIAO) -
i won't say out that openly as let time tells.....i just wan to open ur 'eyes' out by posting all diffeent types of news instead of just focusing on the current iraq war onli......even if i say own mine views...it will sparks off 'political' arguments and 'religious' controversy n such...
let time tell us wad is happening next to the world.....
barely just 3mths.....this yr.....have much more happenings than last yr......dunjust say the politics.....how th eenvironment? the sars outbreak? the weather?
if i post the weather reports, u b wondering y this yr got so many things happening at the same time...... -
My dear doutiga83,
I hope your involvement with the New World Order Philosophy is not so intense that you will lose sight of objectivity, and be so persuade by their way of viewing the world and its happenings.
The New World Order is nothing new, and probably is a collation of all the ancient thoughts from Taosism, Confuscianism, and from the Prophecies of Nostradamus.
If you are into this, try this site:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/nos/index.htm
The weather of this world is changing, due to the amount of land used, and the denudation of forests for human habitation, and the amount of energy used, creating the heat and carbon dioxide emission that is generated by the consumption of a burgeoning world population.
If you have not forgotten, there is a serious attempt by the UNITED NATIONS to implement Birth Control in the poorer countries on this Globe - and please, don't assume that this is to serve the New World Order of the Powerful by suppressing the geometrical growth of the poor.
I hope that your New World Order has an explanation as to why the Catholic Church refused to allow the use of Birth Control.
World Wars, Racial Conflicts, Religious Conflicts, Clash of Cultures, Clash of Civilizations, 9-11 incidents, Bali Bombings, and all the earthquakes, floods, man-made and natural catastrophies - if you think that it is causing a New World Order similar to a George Orwell's idea of a Single Nation with one Big Brother lording over Everyone, then you must be an extremist science fiction geek.
Reading the social and cultural experiene from the 1950s, there is a discernible trend in fadish practices, hang-ups and thinking.
Well, each generation has its own hang-ups.
In this Twenty First Century of the space age and star wars weapon systems, you are entitled to your version of the New World Order.
Just don't get overboard to the extreme and be persuaded to do something silly to yourself, your family, or to society. -
BTW if you are into prophecies, try these sites too:
http://www.crosssearch.com/Science_and_Social_Science/Theology_and_Issues/Prophecy/
http://www.howlingwolfs-den.com/mind/prophecy.html
http://melfort.com/fightback/nostradamus/
http://www.bibledecoded.com/qa.html
http://www.huttoncommentaries.com/ECNews/BibleCode/bc_on_earth_changes.htm -
blah, in a nutshell. new world order will come. but it will be headed by the antichrist. simple. ok? thats basically it
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if there is no christ u think there is a christ for u to anti?
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New World Order.. also mentioned in the book Behold a Pale Horse...
which talks about aliens helping build a moon base on the dark side of the moon with the Soviets and US.. Roswell and devil worship of the elite of US politicians which make up a secret society
you believe that?Originally posted by dumbdumb!:blah, in a nutshell. new world order will come. but it will be headed by the antichrist. simple. ok? thats basically it -
another reason for the change of the current weather conditions in the past few years has to do with mother earth preparing itself to enter another ice age.
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aiyah very soon POwerpuff girls will take over earth.
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I must really salute you. Your prediction is really very juicy. But allow me to make some changes to it. First, all females regardless of race will be spared so that they can be made sex slaves to the americans. Muslims will be sold as slaves to the american households then the chinese will be sent to work on the farm.Originally posted by stupidissmart:Soon they will attack British, China, Russia and of course Singapore and sparking off WWIII. Billions of people will be killed. If Human or Earth ever survive after the nuclear bombs, all Caucasians will be made first class citizen, the rest of the races second class. We will all lived under the iron arm of US as they still trying to instill discipline. How about Muslims ? They probably all killed or forced to convert. Wat about our culture ? All gone, the only culture left is the American culture. -
