Ridiculous HDB Prices
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Competition rocks only when you are winning
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Originally posted by Summer hill:
Competition rocks only when you are winning
Yes to that.
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Rock & Roll :lol:
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k.
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Rock & roll, Elvis Presley :lol:
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come on they know they have to really do somethign for cuples married adn intend to have chewdren later. according to individual planning families may wanna have chewdren mroe than 1, and out of their control if they have a mix of boys and girls, then i think the 3-room, 4 -room and 5-room category sale of BTO flats governemnt really have to look into. for those staying with parents, the 5- room flat is not like having 4 bedrooms, its still 3, so for families wih a mix of boys and birls chewdren like that how to have inidvidual rooms? one of the lot have sto sleep in livving room
also i thnk they may not be building enough 2 rooms and studio apartmnets.
studio apt for above 55 or 65 (30 year lease)
2 room for age 35++ above (mayb change to 60 years lease)
aiyo also the flats very noisy arh, can gahmen improve the building materials and design or not?! or else limit one flat how many units can be rent out lah, and they must live at lowewr levels. aiyah better just build dormitories or them cheap labor lah .... so muc a nuisance they all! lifts move up and down cheena ppl building coffins late at night, s/cc charges still so high! electricity poer rate kwh increseing from year 2007 until now yeear 2013...see our utility bills know already!
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Khaw shares ideas to lower prices of HDB flats
One suggestion for debate: insist that owners must sell homes back to HDB
TWO days after signalling a critical rethink of the role and nature of public housing, Minister for National Development Khaw Boon Wan yesterday threw up a few suggestions as to how exactly policy may change. -- ST FILE PHOTO: YEN MENG JIIN
By POON CHIAN HUI
TWO days after signalling a critical rethink of the role and nature of public housing, Minister for National Development Khaw Boon Wan yesterday threw up a few suggestions as to how exactly policy may change.
Shortening leases, extending the minimum occupation period or even reinstating a pre-1971 rule that owners can sell HDB flats only back to the Housing Board are all solutions up for discussion, which may help to lower the prices of new flats.
The minimum occupation period, introduced to reduce speculation, is the shortest period before the whole flat can be rented out or sold. It now stands at five years.
The last suggestion would mean an HDB flat owner could sell his flat not on the market, but only to the HDB, at the price he bought it at, with perhaps some interest, said Mr Khaw.
These are "reasonable suggestions" raised by MPs and the public which he will discuss with various groups, including the public.
He said this yesterday in relation to his Parliament pledge last Friday of making new flats cheaper by some 30 per cent, with those in non-mature estates to cost about four years of one's salary, down from 5.5 years now.
In Parliament, he also said it would be good to re-examine some old assumptions, including that of HDB flats being treated as appreciating assets.
At the heart of this transition is the impact of trade-offs between distinct groups, like home owners and home buyers, who may have differing views and needs.
"How do we make sensible trade-offs which are sustainable?" Mr Khaw asked yesterday.
"Most people actually do not have a housing problem. But a minority do, and they are serious housing problems," he said.
"So we need to tackle them, but in a way that is not at the expense of home owners."
A group that will feel the sting of dipping prices are those relying on rental income. Their tenants usually comprise people who cannot afford a new flat.
This is why the Government cannot keep building new flats, Mr Khaw said. "If I keep on meeting new demand, I am actually hurting the many home owners who now rent out their own properties. And there are many."
Some 40,000 entire HDB flats are being sublet; up to another 40,000 owners rent out rooms.
Rather, what he hopes to do is to engineer a "soft landing".
Mr Chris Koh, director of property agency Chris International, said an extension of the minimum occupation period may help reduce property speculation as it discourages those who are more interested in making money from flat sales and rental income. Instead, people who intend to stay for the long haul are more likely to buy the flats.
Chesterton Suntec International director of research and consultancy Colin Tan felt shorter leases are unlikely to work. In theory, shortening the leases from 99 years for most flats means they can be sold more cheaply. "There is likely to be only a one-time lowering of prices," he said. "The problem can come back as supply is not keeping up with demand.
Top of the news, The Straits Times, March 11 2013, Pg A1
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comeon know how HDb build falts? just plank the folorring layers floor by floor. they mustundersatnd iof they cannot control influx of kampo foreigners who will never be socially graceful enouff to live with social responsibiity in high rise HDBs, they have to make the buildings floors and walls 'foreigner proof'. we can do teh same for cats ownership, but cannot for aliens?
instead of just direct plank flooring and ceiling, ttehy can use 2 separate slabs per unit, so there will be a space in between the usual specs thickness flooring. in this way vibration when kampong aliens strike will be channel else where along the smae slab.
bomb shelter? make full use of landspace evey HDB block when they build tehy can dig one floor down as a common bomb shelter enuff to house the number of people lviing in a unit. when exercise bomb raise residences just move orderly down t teh shelter. then no need thos bang bang loud doors in our unit's shelter and give us back our store room.
also rented units esp to pee arse cees and with maids living in the same unit whaolaokao they think they live like in kampung cheena indo or philipines
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Originally posted by troublemaker2005:
comeon know how HDb build falts? just plank the folorring layers floor by floor. they mustundersatnd iof they cannot control influx of kampo foreigners who will never be socially graceful enouff to live with social responsibiity in high rise HDBs, they have to make the buildings floors and walls 'foreigner proof'. we can do teh same for cats ownership, but cannot for aliens?
instead of just direct plank flooring and ceiling, ttehy can use 2 separate slabs per unit, so there will be a space in between the usual specs thickness flooring. in this way vibration when kampong aliens strike will be channel else where along the smae slab.
bomb shelter? make full use of landspace evey HDB block when they build tehy can dig one floor down as a common bomb shelter enuff to house the number of people lviing in a unit. when exercise bomb raise residences just move orderly down t teh shelter. then no need thos bang bang loud doors in our unit's shelter and give us back our store room.
also rented units esp to pee arse cees and with maids living in the same unit whaolaokao they think they live like in kampung cheena indo or philipines
Please go back to school and learn proper english.
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They have 3 years to fix high hdb price problem.
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Originally posted by charlize:
They have 3 years to fix high hdb price problem.
what do you mean by "fix"?
bring down the high price, or give everybody subsidy so everybody can buy?
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Originally posted by charlize:
They have 3 years to fix high hdb price problem.
Huat ah....
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I bought my Bishan 4rm, 1,120sqft @$114,800 in 1991.
now ?
recently a neighbour sold for $745,000.
Huat ah...,
I am waiting for it to hit
Who wants to b a millionaire.....
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
what do you mean by "fix"?
bring down the high price, or give everybody subsidy so everybody can buy?
Now you see the monster they created?
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Roar! :lol:
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The proverbial caught between a rock and a hard place.
times are bad.
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Originally posted by Just_do_it_lah:
I bought my Bishan 4rm, 1,120sqft @$114,800 in 1991.
now ?
recently a neighbour sold for $745,000.
Huat ah...,
I am waiting for it to hit
Who wants to b a millionaire.....
even downgraders like that will never be able to buy second hand open market flats. those who buy are live a while then sell one or rent out then sell.
serious budget buyers will rely on BTO only. dongraders, people earning less, cannot afford to servic flat but dont intend to sell in open maket.
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Originally posted by Summer hill:
Please go back to school and learn proper english.
no time school also dont want me. but my standard is betterthan mangers working outside. so i still not that bad lah.my jerman largi better.
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Your government is making the problem worse than it has to be by heavily subsidizing housing for the lazy. If those with heavily subsidized HDBs had to bear the true cost of their housing they might choose to live somewhere else thus increasing the supply of available housing and decreasing the price. Singaporeans are usually pretty stupid and hapless in the way they go about things like that though. Another thing is that there are a lot of empty fields all around town in good locations that aren't being utilized at all as well ratty broken down two story shop houses that could provide tons of housing if they were knocked down. It's always nice to preserve historic buildings but way more than half of the shop houses are old, unmaintained shit holes that are infested with rats and roaches and are about ready to fall over. Nearly all of Geylang could be demolished and tens of thousands of nice homes built there for example. Foreigners may be driving the prices up too but without foreigners Singaporeans couldn't keep the lights on the water running.
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Originally posted by SDT:
Your government is making the problem worse than it has to be by heavily subsidizing housing for the lazy. If those with heavily subsidized HDBs had to bear the true cost of their housing they might choose to live somewhere else thus increasing the supply of available housing and decreasing the price. Singaporeans are usually pretty stupid and hapless in the way they go about things like that though. Another thing is that there are a lot of empty fields all around town in good locations that aren't being utilized at all as well ratty broken down two story shop houses that could provide tons of housing if they were knocked down. It's always nice to preserve historic buildings but way more than half of the shop houses are old, unmaintained shit holes that are infested with rats and roaches and are about ready to fall over. Nearly all of Geylang could be demolished and tens of thousands of nice homes built there for example. Foreigners may be driving the prices up too but without foreigners Singaporeans couldn't keep the lights on the water running.
Hi foreigner. Have a seat while I serve you milo with durian.
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What a great idea.
Milo with durian.
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:lol:
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Or do want a Pill C for breakfast?