Nation Capabilities!!
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What are the Defence capabilities of all the South East-Asean Countries??
Taking into consdieration, Malayasia, Singapore & Indonesia!!
Who would survive a War if broken out!
Could it be Mal-Sin-Ind!!????
Anyone for Open Discussion!!!!!
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Malaysia technologywise is still not comparable to Singapore while Indonesia is even worse,lack of technology and $$$ to fund it with the crisis they are undergoing,heehe
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Ok. Offensively, we are better. How about the logistical support? Can Singapore support its army IN THE FIELD for 2 months?With petrol, food, ammo, medicine? etc (bomb Jurong Island and what happens?)
Can we deliver the said goods above in HOSTILE territory?
Can we sustain casulties (father, brother, son) as well as our neighbours?
So remember, amatures talk about tactics while the professionals talk logistics (Tom Clancy 198
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Originally posted by kenhor:Ok. Offensively, we are better. How about the logistical support? Can Singapore support its army IN THE FIELD for 2 months?With petrol, food, ammo, medicine? etc (bomb Jurong Island and what happens?)
Can we deliver the said goods above in HOSTILE territory?
make use of enemy resources on the ground rather than transport the resources from far away.
Can we sustain casulties (father, brother, son) as well as our neighbours?
that will depend on kill ratio.
So remember, amatures talk about tactics while the professionals talk logistics (Tom Clancy 198 -
What supply can we capture?
Kill ratio? Ok .. lets see .. compare density of Singapore vs density of South Malaysia hmmm ... 1 155mm art shell can cause more damage into Woodlands than 10 155mm shells into JB.
So end of the day, our teeth maybe sharp but devastation will be more acutely felt in Singapore.
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TRADE. get it?Originally posted by kenhor:What supply can we capture?
*fuel, food, transport, labor, medicine, weapons, ammunitions,.... lots of stuff, even kitchen knife can be useful. not forgetting the all important can opener.
Kill ratio? Ok .. lets see .. compare density of Singapore vs density of South Malaysia hmmm ... 1 155mm art shell can cause more damage into Woodlands than 10 155mm shells into JB.
*hahahaaaa........ kill ratio as in for every SAF soldier killed against malaysian soldier killed lah.
*anyway, malaysia with no defence industry and low stockpile of 155mm shells would be wasting its ammo on flats. at least singapore makes 155mm and can expect resupply.
*secondly, when arty goes boom boom, they try to take each other out rather than see who can hit more buildings. as such singapore having the ability to make its own arty with a range of 42km compared to malaysia's 30km arty range is clearly the winner.
So end of the day, our teeth maybe sharp but devastation will be more acutely felt in Singapore.
*they got about 30 arty guns, if i am not wrong the FH-70 VSEL from UK. we got at least 60 155mm Arty of equal range. as for the FH88 and FH2000 (42KM range), only GOD and the singapore generals know how many we now have since it is made in singapore. gun for gun, our guns will still be blazing away while theirs have been silenced by counter battery.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by manhunt:
[B]What are the Defence capabilities of all the South East-Asean Countries??
Taking into consdieration, Malayasia, Singapore & Indonesia.
Well, i know little about artillery, but i do know that Singapore artillery will definitely beat Malaysian Guns, in terms of ammunitions supplies, ranges and numbers. In modern high-tech warfare, most kills are scorked by air power(i think). Comparing the Royal Malaysian Air Force(RMAF), Indonesian Air Force(TNI-AU) and the Republic of Singapore Air Force(RSAF). The RSAF emerges the winner over the two Air Forces, in terms of technology, numbers of fighters, tactics and weapons. These are the information i know.
1) The best the RMAF can offer is the 8 F/A18D,the 20 MIG29 fighters and the fleet of out-dated F5E tigers. For the RSAF, is the 42 F16C/D,the fleet of upgraded 30 F5S and 40(i think so) A4SU attack aircraft. This incredible amount of high-tech fighters, i admit, is too much for a small country, but the Singapore govern ment is preparing a war not only with one country, but with at least two. You can see from the number of fighters we own.
2)In the Army, we have the right amount of soldiers to fight in a war with Malaysia.
3)Singapore operates about 340 AMX13 SM1 light tanks but the Malaysian Army only operates about 26 Scorpion light Recce Tank.
4)Singapore Army operates about 500 IFV25 and IFV 40/50 IFVs. The best malaysia can offer to be compared with the Bionix is the KIFVs that they own. Malaysia operates about 62 KIFVs.
5)Singapore operates about 350 upgraded M113A2 APCs, 44 AMX10PAC90 amphibious APC and about 200 V-200 APCs while the Malaysian Army operates about 450 Condor APCs, 150 old Sibmas APCs and 25 Stormer APCs.
Hope some Singaporeans would have more confidence in the Singapore Armed Forces after seeing some of these information i had gathered here. I know little about Naval aviation, anyone can tell me more about the Navy of the two countries? -
Remember this, bees might be very smallÂ…. But if anyone got sting by itsÂ…. It gonna be very painful!!!!!!!!!! Therefore, never underestimate on our SAF capabilityÂ….
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Wah NDU u so free almost everyday give comments... somemore all boh liao one.
You got good info share mah...
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Don't compare Malaysia with Singapore. Becoz the winner is very obvious. Indonesia however is another story. They poor, no technology but they got numbers leh....Their Naval Power, wa piang, so big that combined RSN and RMN Navy also not their match! Indonesia got Harpoon, exocet bla bla. Their Air Force no need to say lar, on the bottom. I think Malaysia also can win them.
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if SAF is a bee.....ITs must be one big giant BEEEEE.......... comparatively, the MAF is so much smaller in size to SAF.Originally posted by NDU:Remember this, bees might be very small? But if anyone got sting by its? It gonna be very painful!!!!!!!!!! Therefore, never underestimate on our SAF capability? -
why i use the word bee... thats becoz when we r wearing the "bee t-shirt" in our unit... one of the officer told us this... although our singapore is so call small... but any country wanna try us will have a good sting by us!!!Originally posted by Silenthunter:Wah NDU u so free almost everyday give comments... somemore all boh liao one.
You got good info share mah...
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Originally posted by Patriotic Tim:
they are poor... no technology... yup yup yup... but do u know that during 70-80's they are one of the stronger in SEA, in history it also shown that, during suharto times, he even wanna conquer m'sia, sin, and brunie.. curently they have no technology, not enough fundin, their nation are facing lot and lot of problems.... thats why it make u think so.... i agree, i've not update my info for their army forces and ours for quite sometime (not in sin for the last few yrs) but i can still remember that my officers have always giveing good comment on their capability....
Don't compare Malaysia with Singapore. Becoz the winner is very obvious. Indonesia however is another story. They poor, no technology but they got numbers leh....Their Naval Power, wa piang, so big that combined RSN and RMN Navy also not their match! Indonesia got Harpoon, exocet bla bla. Their Air Force no need to say lar, on the bottom. I think Malaysia also can win them. -
ERRR.... during the 70s and 80s?? u got that right??Originally posted by NDU:they are poor... no technology... yup yup yup... but do u know that during 70-80's they are one of the stronger in SEA, in history it also shown that, during suharto times, he even wanna conquer m'sia, sin, and brunie.. curently they have no technology, not enough fundin, their nation are facing lot and lot of problems.... thats why it make u think so.... i agree, i've not update my info for their army forces and ours for quite sometime (not in sin for the last few yrs) but i can still remember that my officers have always giveing good comment on their capability....
And just how are they gonna conquer us?? with parangs?? they are not in a position to conquer us then, neither are they capable of doing so now.
In the future?? only god knows....maybe indonesia would split into a dozen nation is also a possibility. -
hmmm.......
actually i want 2 ask u all......
wat if singapore actually went 2 war..?
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we are ready all the time.Originally posted by MinisterOfDefence:hmmm.......
actually i want 2 ask u all......
wat if singapore actually went 2 war..?
are we ready?
to be caught napping would be the end of singapore.
Singapore is so small....it cant afford to even relax for even an hour. because an hour is all that is needed to overrun us.