What makes a good army officer?
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Fellow ORDeds, enlistees and NSF
I came across these definations of being a good officer in SAF. Do give your views
BTW they are from chitchatOriginally posted by whoami6969:Before any of u want to talk about chionging in NS esp the topic starter
do try to CUT DOWN ur damn blardy weight first before even talking about going to OCS for god's sake
AFAIK, out of 10 FATTIES, NONE make it to OCS, why would they want ppl who can't even pass their blardy IPPT?!
I've been thru OCS and all our SOC timing is 9 mins flat and all IPPT gold.
Which pes BP can run 2.4km in 9.45? SIAO.Originally posted by whoami6969:Officer means i ask u to run , u run
simple as that.Originally posted by whoami6969:Pls lah, u're just a private which makes u a lousy MAN and u're forever going to be a MAN sitting behind the 3-tonner.
OCS is good and only meant for ppl with calibre, not ppl like u who just POP and immediately posted to UNIT to become a MAN.
It takes 100 MAN to think like 1 OFFICER.
Cheers.Originally posted by whoami6969:Fact is fact that i was commissioned back in 99 and till now still hold my rank without fail.
Please don't try to act so HERO about the truth of NS life.
U can say that u as an officer will clean up your own shit job when u leave shit stuff behind?
obviously u ask the MAN to do it.
That's what they are for. Simple as that.Originally posted by whoami6969:OCS - to lead , to excel and to overcome.
Don't talk as if u have been thru it and u know wat's goign on inside there.
OCS is meant for ppl who have calibre and not just plain attitude or wat.
Give u a scenerio.
A guy very FIT and attitude moderate.
A guy very FAT with very good attitude.
wat's the use if u get the FAT guy when he can't even put on a webbing proberly?
I've seen fatsos who can't even waer the SBO attire to even look like a soldier.
moreover why the hell would OCS want such fatties? -
Seems like our friend has something against fatties. He may be right in a sense that OCS would take people of calibre. But there was no need to shoot down someone else. My opinion, this fella's a pretty stuck up officer. Anybody remember Band of Brothers, what happened to the first Captain of Easy Co.? Hur huR.
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He treats men like slavesOriginally posted by Shotgun:Seems like our friend has something against fatties. He may be right in a sense that OCS would take people of calibre. But there was no need to shoot down someone else. My opinion, this fella's a pretty stuck up officer. Anybody remember Band of Brothers, what happened to the first Captain of Easy Co.? Hur huR.
Anyone remembered what happen to Zhang Fei? -
another asshole officer..
let him say all he wants..no men he also lan lan
i have frens in ns who is so fat tat he keep failing his ippt...but now he is a Manager in a company earning 4k+ per mth n somemore no nid to chiong shua to get this money..just sit at office n think -
Observations of numerous officers have brought several key points to my attention:
1. An officer demands 100% fitness of himself b4 he demands that of his men.
2. A good officer is decisive and not impulsive.
3. In the field, he navigates with confidence and fights a "battle" by committing to practice the basics instead of the spectacular.(which often fails miserably)
4. Men respect him becoz he makes little mistakes, understands the men and is wholely reliable.
5. Most IMPORTANTLY: a steady officer toks less and thinks more, prefering to let his actions speak for themselves.
enuff said
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Basically i think a good officer does not need to talk this way to justify why respect should be given to him. coz if he's respected, there is no need for verbal justification, dont u think?
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i agree with u 100%
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Respect is given and not demanded. Officers like these will be shot by my team the moment we are out on operations.
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yea..shot n buried in the middle of nowhereOriginally posted by mfscrewu:Respect is given and not demanded. Officers like these will be shot by my team the moment we are out on operations.
status will be M.I.A -
Gotta think about the officer's position also. He's also caught under those higher ranking OCs who expect him to perform his duties. If he gives an order, follow it. If you don't think u can do it, explain it to him. Here, in this case, either 1. u get into trouble, sabo ur entire platoon, or 2. he still makes u do it. If 2. die trying to do what he told u to do. Anything goes wrong, his fault, he can push the blame up the chain of command if he likes.
Most impt bit about an officer is not whether he can relate to his men or not. But good judgement. IMO, if he is clear headed and can make the correct decisions, then he is a good officer. If you don't follow a legal order, then i guess he's not the one at fault. -
Well good judgement is critial I admit. However, if he wants to pass on his instructions and yet does not have a good rapport with his men, things still cannot be done. Good judgement is only one aspect of an officer's capability. Good HR skills is another. No officer can run away from any of tehm. Why do you think that the HMS Bounty had a muntinyOriginally posted by Shotgun:Gotta think about the officer's position also. He's also caught under those higher ranking OCs who expect him to perform his duties. If he gives an order, follow it. If you don't think u can do it, explain it to him. Here, in this case, either 1. u get into trouble, sabo ur entire platoon, or 2. he still makes u do it. If 2. die trying to do what he told u to do. Anything goes wrong, his fault, he can push the blame up the chain of command if he likes.
Most impt bit about an officer is not whether he can relate to his men or not. But good judgement. IMO, if he is clear headed and can make the correct decisions, then he is a good officer. If you don't follow a legal order, then i guess he's not the one at fault. ? -
Without leaders.. there will not be victories.
Without men... there will not be even a thing to win victories with.
Some are born to lead while some are born to follow...
It is those inbetween (Specialists) that provide the links between Officers and Men.
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Looks like someone from sispec
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No use doing that. During your explanation, the officer will point his thumb to himself and say "My problem??".Originally posted by Shotgun:If he gives an order, follow it. If you don't think u can do it, explain it to him. -
Then do what he says.