Internet poll shows Singaporeans want PM Goh to stay on
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Internet poll shows Singaporeans want PM Goh to stay on
Agence France Presse
August 27, 2003
SINGAPORE
http://www.singapore-window.org/sw03/030827af.htm
PRIME Minister Goh Chok Tong would stay in power if Singaporeans could vote directly for their head of government, according to an online poll conducted by top Internet portal Yahoo Singapore.
Yahoo users were asked to tick from a list of eight ministers their choice "if you could vote for the next Prime Minister."
Goh, 62, announced on August 17 that he would step down by 2005 or earlier after the economy recovers, and named his deputy Lee Hsien Loong, 51, as his chosen successor.
But Yahoo Singapore's online voters had other ideas.
At noon Wednesday, with 2613 votes so far, 41 percent of participants in the Yahoo poll picked Goh.
In second place was Goh's other deputy Tony Tan, 63, with 19 percent of the vote, followed by Lee with 15 percent. In fourth place was Minister of Trade and Industry George Yeo, 48, with eight percent.
Singapore's parliamentary system does not allow for direct election of the prime minister, who is selected by the ruling party from among elected members of parliament. Goh's People's Action Party (PAP) has been in power since 1959.
In an earlier poll, Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew -- the father of deputy prime minister Lee -- was chosen by Yahoo users as Singaporean of the Year in the run-up to city-state's independence day celebrations on August 9.
The senior Lee, who turns 80 next month, stepped down as prime minister in 1990 in favor of Goh, who has suggested publicly that the junior Lee, a former brigadier general in the Singapore armed forces, should soften his tough public image.
According to a spokesman, Yahoo reaches about 500,000 Singaporeans and receives 22,000 opinions daily on community message boards.
About 80 percent of Yahoo's users are between 18 and 54 years of age, with an almost even gender split. -
If it were a real poll and the choices were those mentioned above, who would you vote for?
Me? I'll cast a spoiled vote as a protest. To me, they're all birds of a feather. -
CLONE LKY!
waaait. can i take that back? cloning wouldn't mean that their thoughts and all sorts would be identical.
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That will mean 2 more LKYs than Singapore needs right now...Originally posted by MooKu:CLONE LKY! -
Originally posted by Viper52:That will mean 2 more LKYs than Singapore needs right now...
man all this political discussions and i have no idea about it.
it feels wierd sometimes not to really have an opinion?
i guess i'm not well-informed enuff.. but then again, that's my bloody fault for not reading the papers and watching the news.. -
Originally posted by Viper52:
Was it truly "HIS" choice that LHL should be the next Prime Minister, or was it already decided more then ten years ago ?
Internet poll shows Singaporeans want PM Goh to stay on
Agence France Presse
August 27, 2003
SINGAPORE
http://www.singapore-window.org/sw03/030827af.htm
PRIME Minister Goh Chok Tong would stay in power if Singaporeans could vote directly for their head of government, according to an online poll conducted by top Internet portal Yahoo Singapore.
Yahoo users were asked to tick from a list of eight ministers their choice "if you could vote for the next Prime Minister."
Goh, 62, announced on August 17 that he would step down by 2005 or earlier after the economy recovers, and named his deputy Lee Hsien Loong, 51, as [b]his chosen successor.
But Yahoo Singapore's online voters had other ideas.
At noon Wednesday, with 2613 votes so far, 41 percent of participants in the Yahoo poll picked Goh.
In second place was Goh's other deputy Tony Tan, 63, with 19 percent of the vote, followed by Lee with 15 percent. In fourth place was Minister of Trade and Industry George Yeo, 48, with eight percent.
Singapore's parliamentary system does not allow for direct election of the prime minister, who is selected by the ruling party from among elected members of parliament. Goh's People's Action Party (PAP) has been in power since 1959.
In an earlier poll, Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew -- the father of deputy prime minister Lee -- was chosen by Yahoo users as Singaporean of the Year in the run-up to city-state's independence day celebrations on August 9.
The senior Lee, who turns 80 next month, stepped down as prime minister in 1990 in favor of Goh, who has suggested publicly that the junior Lee, a former brigadier general in the Singapore armed forces, should soften his tough public image.
According to a spokesman, Yahoo reaches about 500,000 Singaporeans and receives 22,000 opinions daily on community message boards.
About 80 percent of Yahoo's users are between 18 and 54 years of age, with an almost even gender split.
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It was rather unusual that GCT said that a straw poll was taken from amongst the Ministerial Colleagues and Members of Parliament, as to who they thought would best be the next PM.
Why was the larger membership of the Ruling Party - (or the population at large) - not polled, and then perhaps a more accurate finding would have been received ?
What can one expect from those who are expected to tow the line, and even despite their most honest thoughts, would have been expected to seek the "supposed best" for sake of the majority" ? -
to do that incidentally would be infringing to politicaly sensitive parts. anyway, it's better to be in the frying pan than the fire. let's juz hope we can find the handle in the next elections... somehow, i doubt we can...Originally posted by MooKu:CLONE LKY!
waaait. can i take that back? cloning wouldn't mean that their thoughts and all sorts would be identical. -
you're mad.. we already have enough problems with one right now and his accursed son... you want more???Originally posted by MooKu:CLONE LKY!
waaait. can i take that back? cloning wouldn't mean that their thoughts and all sorts would be identical. -
hhmm...heard a lot of -ve comments on LHL as wad GCT as mention.....
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not a good man...
did you see how he dealt with the civil service thing from a long time ago? arrogance personified..
wanted to change everything and take away pensions.. and went at it with threats and ultimatums when they were not about to take his "offer"... it took a lot of damage control by the other DPM to make things rightOriginally posted by duotiga83:hhmm...heard a lot of -ve comments on LHL as wad GCT as mention..... -
The Son tried to be as tough as his Father, but fell flat on his face trying to be a "chip off the old block".
Now the Son is trying to be congenial, smiling, patient listener, endearing, approachable, and all niceties that one can think of.
How often have we seen someone removing the ladder once the top is reached, and the ladder is no longer of any use.
In the Politics of Singapore, it has happened once too often with the Ruling Party - starting with all the laudable speeches thrown at the British Colonial Masters, and then all the broken promises through the last 38 years of continuous One Party Rule.
Can we believe someone can hold the smile for a long time ?
When the cheeks and jaw gets tired from too long a period of smiling, then it will reveal the snarl in the toughness. -
The only trouble I have with the leaders is that they don;t allow porn or bar top dancing... like WTF is their problem? Well i won't die without porn... i just think we gotta wait for the ruling party to DIE of old age, then we get some younger guy in. But the trouble is, people like me are a minority, and when we become middle aged, we won't give a shit anymore cos we will have kids and stuff, so we will choose to stick with "what works and what has always worked" to be safe. So there will never be reforms.
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Actually, the son is far more ruthless then his dad. Every rumour has its beginnings from some grain of truth. The way he handled his first marriage was a fiasco. The story abt him slapping S. Dana? Somehow i dun think it's entirely false.Originally posted by Atobe:The Son tried to be as tough as his Father, but fell flat on his face trying to be a "chip off the old block".
Now the Son is trying to be congenial, smiling, patient listener, endearing, approachable, and all niceties that one can think of.
How often have we seen someone removing the ladder once the top is reached, and the ladder is no longer of any use.
In the Politics of Singapore, it has happened once too often with the Ruling Party - starting with all the laudable speeches thrown at the British Colonial Masters, and then all the broken promises through the last 38 years of continuous One Party Rule.
Can we believe someone can hold the smile for a long time ?
When the cheeks and jaw gets tired from too long a period of smiling, then it will reveal the snarl in the toughness.
Fact is, an internet poll can be rigged. Opinions can be influenced.
I have no doubt LHL was already the next PM. -
How come there's no belief? -
we need to give him a chance.
i think Dr Tony Tan will prefer to remain as the senior DPM who advises the PM. his invaluable experience and more subtle character balances finely with Mr Lee Hsien Loong. -
At the same time that the rumor of the slapping incident occurred, it was surprising that Tony Tan and Danabalan both quit the cabinet at the same time.Originally posted by BillyBong:Actually, the son is far more ruthless then his dad. Every rumour has its beginnings from some grain of truth. The way he handled his first marriage was a fiasco. The story abt him slapping S. Dana? Somehow i dun think it's entirely false.
Fact is, an internet poll can be rigged. Opinions can be influenced.
I have no doubt LHL was already the next PM.
At that time, Tony Tan was only a Defense Minister, and Danabalan was Foreign Minister (?) or was he then Finance Minister (?) - while the brilliant LHL was the DPM, Second Defense Minister and Minister Trade and Industries.
Yet when Tony Tan returned to the Cabinet, he was made DPM and Defense Minister - equal in Cabinet Position as LHL, who was also DPM and Chairman of the Monetary Authority of Singapore - (giving up his portfolio of Trade & Industries Minister to George Yeo) .
So no more overbearing behavior from LHL on the Defense Minister ?
Dana remained out of the cabinet - (the slap must have stung ? ) .
That LHL will be the next DPM was left in little doubt, but another surprise came about three years ago, when GCT was in the front page of the Straits Times saying:
"Don't push me, or I will dig my heels deeper. I will go when I am ready to go"
Now what prompted him to say that ?
Wonder who is pushing him to quit ?
Are we reading too much into movements in the sand ? -
Interesting. An emotional outburst perhaps? Somehow i doubt it. Sand dunes shift overnight. Given the fact that this recession is not abt to disappear in a few years, we might get more of these emotional outbursts soon....Originally posted by Atobe:"Don't push me, or I will dig my heels deeper. I will go when I am ready to go"
Now what prompted him to say that ? Who is pushing him to quit ?
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IN THE report, 'Low Thia Khiang: Govt has betrayed people's trust' (ST, Aug 30),
Deputy Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said he did not see one million people demonstrating on Parliament Square and this showed the people had trust in the Government.
From the thread "Clear Example of Facts being twisted by Cabinet Ministers" -
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=56307
With such an imbecile line of thinking, I wonder if he is the right choice to be the future PM to lead Singapore over the next 15 to 20 years - in direct competition with more competent rivals in Malaysia, Thailand and further away in China, Hongkong, Taiwan and Korea.
Little wonder that GCT is polled to be the preferred person to stay on in the PM Office. -
Originally posted by Atobe:
IN THE report, 'Low Thia Khiang: Govt has betrayed people's trust' (ST, Aug 30),
[b]Deputy Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said he did not see one million people demonstrating on Parliament Square and this showed the people had trust in the Government.
From the thread "Clear Example of Facts being twisted by Cabinet Ministers" -
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=56307
With such an imbecile line of thinking, I wonder if he is the right choice to be the future PM to lead Singapore over the next 15 to 20 years - in direct competition with more competent rivals in Malaysia, Thailand and further away in China, Hongkong, Taiwan and Korea.
Little wonder that GCT is polled to be the preferred person to stay on in the PM Office.
[/b] HAHAHAH...could it be someone bribed his script-writer with $2?