Will singapore be able to survive?
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May i know or ask all of u whether singapore will be able to survive even until the next 10yrs or so with a new PM Lee Hsian Loong.
What are the factors that are considered as our country's advantages and disadvantages if other neighbouring countries such as Malaysia were to be challenging us in the coming years?
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Hope someone will be the first to reply my first topic? PLS...
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Wah lau, this requires analysis to a great depth. Now cannot waste my brain cells.Originally posted by Hocklez:May i know or ask all of u whether singapore will be able to survive even until the next 10yrs or so with a new PM Lee Hsian Loong.
What are the factors that are considered as our country's advantages and disadvantages if other neighbouring countries such as Malaysia were to be challenging us in the coming years?
But one thing I'm sure of is, if you wanna stay in Singapore, have faith in our economy, our government, and ourselves.
Only when we have faith and are united will things work out. -
we will not be going to the pits if that's what you're asking.
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mabbe u would like to give us your views first?Originally posted by Hocklez:May i know or ask all of u whether singapore will be able to survive even until the next 10yrs or so with a new PM Lee Hsian Loong.
What are the factors that are considered as our country's advantages and disadvantages if other neighbouring countries such as Malaysia were to be challenging us in the coming years? -
Can people looking at this post please give me a proper answer? I am veri interested in this topic and i wanted to hear and see the different answer given by all of you.
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huh? wats wrong wif asking u to start first?Originally posted by Hocklez: Can people looking at this post please give me a proper answer? I am veri interested in this topic and i wanted to hear and see the different answer given by all of you.
Thank you if u have give me a reply and answer.
i can tell u to get responses, the best way is to start. den ppl wil come and offer different views. -
Sorrie about my message at first, thanx for ur advice.Originally posted by wuming78:huh? wats wrong wif asking u to start first?
i can tell u to get responses, the best way is to start. den ppl wil come and offer different views.
To me, i think that singapore will continue to do well with the new PM taking over maybe next yr or so. The new PM will be able to get advice from PM Goh and SM Lee which might be in the government, thus preventing any wrong decsion being make by the new PM.
As for the second question, i think that Singapore is able to strive and win the challenges being make by Malaysia. This might be due to the fact that Singapore has our own knowlege base workers which provide a good source of workers for the company willing to invest in here. This will thus be able to overcome our disadvantage as a small country. However, being small might not be a disadvantage as we can take Finnland for example, it is a small country like Singapore, but it is able to produce a a well- known company like Nokia which is a handphone company.
Hope my starting is enough and reasonable, please help to answer my post.
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I thought tis thread very similar with the one Goodeal started
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i would think that if the Dragon Prince took over, we will have to follow his decisions come hell or high water... simply because he is so used to having been born with a platinum spoon stuck up his butt...
i fear for our country...
simply because of this rumour going around that he told off his grassroots leaders after his election victory that he'll "never listen to them again"...
other things worry me... in the past, he made decisions without considering the public.. like the civil service revamping, trying to kill off the pension schemes.. he does not make decisions, he decrees.. much like his father.. but we are a different time now...
his family runs too much of singapore.. and it is worrying because of the consolidation of power...
other things like his father turning the party and making it such that people think that the nation is the party is the nation... this is worrying in itself because the members of the party start thinking of the interests of the party before the interests of the people...
a lot of things make me worry..
survive? i think we will survive..
we will survive not because of the Dragon Prince, but we will survive IN SPITE OF the Dragon Prince...
i hope my faith is not unfounded
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Hey thanx alot all of u for ur contribution to my post. I really appreaciate it as this is my first post and i already gets more than 5 post from others.
Yahoooooo...
Anyway happy Halloween to all of u... -
Omg, I did not know about the rumour that u just said but as the word rumour say, it might not be the truth, thus we should only believe 50% of it. SM Lee has started the PAP and he is thus considered the leader of that party and Singapore. The party has already made such a huge change to Singapore that we see the party as our nation which might be the reason behind "the nation is the party is the nation".Originally posted by the Bear:i would think that if the Dragon Prince took over, we will have to follow his decisions come hell or high water... simply because he is so used to having been born with a platinum spoon stuck up his butt...
i fear for our country...
simply because of this rumour going around that he told off his grassroots leaders after his election victory that he'll "never listen to them again"...
other things worry me... in the past, he made decisions without considering the public.. like the civil service revamping, trying to kill off the pension schemes.. he does not make decisions, he decrees.. much like his father.. but we are a different time now...
his family runs too much of singapore.. and it is worrying because of the consolidation of power...
other things like his father turning the party and making it such that people think that the nation is the party is the nation... this is worrying in itself because the members of the party start thinking of the interests of the party before the interests of the people...
a lot of things make me worry..
survive? i think we will survive..
we will survive not because of the Dragon Prince, but we will survive IN SPITE OF the Dragon Prince...
i hope my faith is not unfounded
Anyway, what reason suggested to you that the members of the party think of the interest of the party before the interest of Singapore? To me the party has always put the people in the first place.
As to the consoildation of power, i think that DPM Lee should has what i call the ability to take over from the seat left by PM Goh. If he did not have the ability, we people could be able to see it for our own eyes during the period of him being the DPM for the pass few years. However, think about it again, will the people want a leader who has got great abiltiy to continue leading the country to success or a leader who does not know much and lead the country to a great fall and destory it. My answer and mine will always be the same which is a leader who is able to continue to lead us to success. Now the problem lies on whether who the leader is. He is the son of SM Lee but he might be able to continue on the success which we have been achieving and allowing us to live our life in comfort. -
i take it with a pinch of salt but it would not be out of character of the Dragon Prince
as for them putting the people ahead of the party, there are many incidences they have not... just look at the gerrymandering going on.... you cannot be blind to this...
when that asswipe JBJ won Anson and they drove him out, look at what they did to Anson.. do you see it on the electorial map anymore?
do you not see what these GRCs are about other than a mad grab for power, come hell or high water?
they are just messing with the people, our boundaries and everything else to get around some of the people's wishes.. chances are, if Potong Pasir falls to the party, you'll see it disappear too..
as for successes, if you have only analysed what is going on whenever the Dragon Prince makes decisions.. most of the time, others are doing damage control for him... he decrees and everyone tries...
remember this too.. the country is much more important than the petty gratitude and loyalty to any party... Lau Lee did a lot of good... THEN... not now.. unless you sewn your own eyes and ears shut, don't you see a complete and utter consolidation of power in the Lee Clan?
this is dangerous beyond words...
maybe i'm paranoid... but if i'm right, the impact to singapore would be terrible...
but like i said, we'll survive IN SPITE OF them... i hope.. coz in the past, they did not control as much of singapore as they do now..Originally posted by Hocklez:Omg, I did not know about the rumour that u just said but as the word rumour say, it might not be the truth, thus we should only believe 50% of it. SM Lee has started the PAP and he is thus considered the leader of that party and Singapore. The party has already made such a huge change to Singapore that we see the party as our nation which might be the reason behind "the nation is the party is the nation".
Anyway, what reason suggested to you that the members of the party think of the interest of the party before the interest of Singapore? To me the party has always put the people in the first place.
As to the consoildation of power, i think that DPM Lee should has what i call the ability to take over from the seat left by PM Goh. If he did not have the ability, we people could be able to see it for our own eyes during the period of him being the DPM for the pass few years. However, think about it again, will the people want a leader who has got great abiltiy to continue leading the country to success or a leader who does not know much and lead the country to a great fall and destory it. My answer and mine will always be the same which is a leader who is able to continue to lead us to success. Now the problem lies on whether who the leader is. He is the son of SM Lee but he might be able to continue on the success which we have been achieving and allowing us to live our life in comfort. -
Oh ok.Originally posted by the Bear:i take it with a pinch of salt but it would not be out of character of the Dragon Prince
as for them putting the people ahead of the party, there are many incidences they have not... just look at the gerrymandering going on.... you cannot be blind to this...
when that asswipe JBJ won Anson and they drove him out, look at what they did to Anson.. do you see it on the electorial map anymore?
do you not see what these GRCs are about other than a mad grab for power, come hell or high water?
they are just messing with the people, our boundaries and everything else to get around some of the people's wishes.. chances are, if Potong Pasir falls to the party, you'll see it disappear too..
as for successes, if you have only analysed what is going on whenever the Dragon Prince makes decisions.. most of the time, others are doing damage control for him... he decrees and everyone tries...
remember this too.. the country is much more important than the petty gratitude and loyalty to any party... Lau Lee did a lot of good... THEN... not now.. unless you sewn your own eyes and ears shut, don't you see a complete and utter consolidation of power in the Lee Clan?
this is dangerous beyond words...
maybe i'm paranoid... but if i'm right, the impact to singapore would be terrible...
but like i said, we'll survive IN SPITE OF them... i hope.. coz in the past, they did not control as much of singapore as they do now..
To your consolidation of power in the the so call Lee's Clan, I don really think that is the case. If SM Lee were want to have this thing like the consolidation of power, why did he have to step down as the PM 13 years ago and allow Goh take overover? Isn's this opposing the idea of consolidation which people think he is trying to create? If he were to create such a consolidation, what harm will this cause the country as i don see any.
Lastly, I don think that the consolidation might not even last long even if it exist as there will always comes to a time whereby one of the Lee isn't a suitable leader. Thus, we should not have look upon DPM Lee as SM Lee son but as an individual in order for us to judge him from our view without any unfairness. However, all the leaders who might taking over from DPM Lee in the future as PM will definitely have one and single aim which is to continue the success we have now into the future. -
Will DPM Lee be able to lead us to a great success in the coming years? SIngapore vs Malaysia, which side will win?
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anyone who thinks that Lau Lee does not pull the strings, i got used cars i can sell them..
think..
what are the biggest companies in singapore?
who has the top jobs with the most power in singapore?
you think for one moment if Lau Lee was not there, they would be there?Originally posted by Hocklez:Oh ok.
To your consolidation of power in the the so call Lee's Clan, I don really think that is the case. If SM Lee were want to have this thing like the consolidation of power, why did he have to step down as the PM 13 years ago and allow Goh take overover? Isn's this opposing the idea of consolidation which people think he is trying to create? If he were to create such a consolidation, what harm will this cause the country as i don see any.
Lastly, I don think that the consolidation might not even last long even if it exist as there will always comes to a time whereby one of the Lee isn't a suitable leader. Thus, we should not have look upon DPM Lee as SM Lee son but as an individual in order for us to judge him from our view without any unfairness. However, all the leaders who might taking over from DPM Lee in the future as PM will definitely have one and single aim which is to continue the success we have now into the future. -
Oh i get it bear so Lee still control Singapore like a king?Originally posted by the Bear:anyone who thinks that Lau Lee does not pull the strings, i got used cars i can sell them..
think..
what are the biggest companies in singapore?
who has the top jobs with the most power in singapore?
you think for one moment if Lau Lee was not there, they would be there? -
why do you think at 80, he's still holding on?
he shoulda retired yonks ago!Originally posted by Hocklez:Oh i get it bear so Lee still control Singapore like a king? -
Ermm i don agree to ur suggestion about him quiting as u also will not leave a company u have setup for almost 48yrs!!! Will u bear?Originally posted by the Bear:why do you think at 80, he's still holding on?
he shoulda retired yonks ago!
He isn't making any descion like a king too but he is just acting as a advicer to Singapore well being and preventing any harm that might affect Singapore. -
yes..
we do not know what goes on in the backrooms...
you think he's not making decisions?
why is his son there when the other DPM is way way WAY more qualified to be PM?Originally posted by Hocklez:Ermm i don agree to ur suggestion about him quiting as u also will not leave a company u have setup for almost 48yrs!!! Will u bear?
He isn't making any descion like a king too but he is just acting as a advicer to Singapore well being and preventing any harm that might affect Singapore. -
Look, I believe that SM Lee is always making a good descion even on the future of PM which will destine the fruit tree he has grown for years, whether it will continue togrow taller bearing sweeter fruits or just dies off after attacked my pests. He will need a trustworthy person for the job of takingcare of the fruit tree.Originally posted by the Bear:yes..
we do not know what goes on in the backrooms...
you think he's not making decisions?
why is his son there when the other DPM is way way WAY more qualified to be PM?
If he were to set up a consolidation, why did he put PM Goh as the PM before giving it to his son? -
what age was the Dragon Prince then?
never ever have blind faith in politicians... never.. ever!!
that is the responsibility of the people in a democracy...Originally posted by Hocklez:Look, I believe that SM Lee is always making a good descion even on the future of PM which will destine the fruit tree he has grown for years, whether it will continue togrow taller bearing sweeter fruits or just dies off after attacked my pests. He will need a trustworthy person for the job of takingcare of the fruit tree.
If he were to set up a consolidation, why did he put PM Goh as the PM before giving it to his son? -
Hey u really have a point at these things.Originally posted by the Bear:what age was the Dragon Prince then?
never ever have blind faith in politicians... never.. ever!!
that is the responsibility of the people in a democracy...
So do u think DPM Lee has the true abiltiy to lead us into the future or just carrying out his dad decsion without any knowlege? -
he may be intelligent..
but it takes more than intelligence to lead..
he's had a platinum spoon stuck up his bum for so long, and with an attitude that everything he says, must be done, no matter what..
does that bode well?
think about it...Originally posted by Hocklez:Hey u really have a point at these things.
So do u think DPM Lee has the true abiltiy to lead us into the future or just carrying out his dad decsion without any knowlege?