Nude photos of Steve Chia and maid found in his home
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Originally posted by wk77wk:
see....thats wat sexual immorality can do....destroy ur future
From Streats:
[b]NCMP Chia ready to leave S'pore if rejected
I agreed that he can say byebye to his political career, but his business here might only suffer temp loss as a result of this bad publicity of his. (raise your hand if you agree, hairy leg also can!
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Any idea wat biz he's in? Stripper show biz? or nude photography?
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I think he is just plain careless lor ... I believe in the Lee house there are tonnes of such stuff too.. just that it is the Lee and no one dares to touch them.Originally posted by NeonTetra:see....thats wat sexual immorality can do....destroy ur future
Also no not at I am interested just curious and wanna find out for real it is on the net..... i mean Singapore is a small Island lor.... one small MP .. who the hell cares .
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the pics not take at home one lah, is those kind go some ulu area holiday then teng kor teng sa go pee in the wind kind.
the maid pic then dunno liao. -
he mistook that place as Garden of Eden mah........Originally posted by nismoS132:the pics not take at home one lah, is those kind go some ulu area holiday then teng kor teng sa go pee in the wind kind.
the maid pic then dunno liao. -
the pic is not circulated yet, unless the police do so
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Maybe he juz wanna show SGP how transparent and clean he is by posing nude ...
Anyway, it's an honest mistake ... -
esp when u r known as a political figureOriginally posted by NeonTetra:see....thats wat sexual immorality can do....destroy ur future -
esp u know ur figure is not like modelOriginally posted by tibirg:esp when u r known as a political figure -
i see the pictures i thought is fake background....then i read newspaper saying is travel pic..... sibei artisitc
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please give more credit to his wife, she is not stupid! This is one sure way to ruin his political Career so that he will have no choice but to concentrate more on her and their new arrival, baby.
My main concern is for the maid, her future is more uncertain and if she is sent back and blacklisted by the Authorities her life will be Ruined.
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everyone talks abt Chia's...err...infidelity. no doubt that is sth to be concerned abt, but i m appalled that the ST would give blazing coverage of this. Exclusive, omigod!!! i dun think they know of sth called Poisoning the well, and how unfair it is, do they?
anyway, i dun think that Chia's the only one who cheated on his wife.
remeber the looong exclusive on LHL? i was stunned at how he could be smiling, no beaming, in a photo taken three months after his wedding to his second wife. don't he practive mourning? at least he shud feel sad, shudn't he? its an insult to the first Mrs Lee's memory! n yet he can still be brazenly saying that he "treasures her". wad kind of nonsense is this?
its only becos he's an influential person, that the ST portrayed him in such glowering images.
that only shows you, ST is not exactl;y objective, izzit?
the horrified pikamaster
P.S.: for the PAP-is-always-the-besters hu wish to flame me, i wud like to tell them that im not in any way endorsing SC's inpalpable behaviour, but neither m i thrilled at the way his wife handled it. -
hi people,
we should all be sad. W ehave have just lost another man in the opposition camp. Steve Chia was suppose to be up & coming.
Honestly speaking, I am NOT interested in his family and his own personal interest. I am interested in him helping Singaporeans to have a better life. The only way to do that is through oppositional politics against the PAP.
Recent events such as the Pilots union affairs, Singaporeans becoming 2nd class citizens as well as our military management shows that without a strong oppositional force we will be under the wishes of the PAP government. Look at the unfavorable policies the PAP introduced since they won a landslide victory as well as the undisputed ascendance of LKY's son to be the next PM of Singapore. All these are signs of Singapore's impending downfall.
Losing Steve Chia is losing a battle to be won. He was one of the more promising leaders and now he is gone.
What he did was no crime. He did not imflict any harm to anyone. It is his personal interest. Like it or not if we have a higher learning and ability to see things from a wider perspective, what he did was just Art. Should we not condem all artist involved in nude bodies??
So much so for all the arguements that he should be of higher morals. What morality degradation has he brought us? We should balme the media for sensationalising all the details.
Steve - if I am you I will divorce your stupid wife. Otherwise you should tell straight - if she is in or out of oppositional politics. Her act has disappointed many supporters like me.
Stay on and fight - don't leave! -
YOU SURE ?Originally posted by NeonTetra:see....thats wat sexual immorality can do....destroy ur future
or izzit some guys are luckier than some....
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Fortunately for Bill Clinton and Mary Lewinsky, there are no 'mouthful' of photos to remind of their escapades.
Seriously, is this matter being blown out of proportions ?
Unlike Bill and Mary with the evidence of a stained 'Blue Dress' , there are NO photos of Steve and his maid being nude AND being together.
The maid had also stated that she was not forced to pose semi-nude (no nude photos were taken it seems).
If it is Steve's hobby of photographing 'nature' in all its elegant beauty, it is just his own 'healthy' pursuit that is different from the many others preferences of Singaporeans.
It is unfortunate that it involved his maid, and it is due to the spiteful reaction of his wife that gave this otherwise personal pursuit a bad public odour.
At least he had the guts to appear in public to state his case, and stupidly enough his wife is now looking at the entire episode with a different and more accepting perspective now. -
wat to do?Originally posted by pikamaster:everyone talks abt Chia's...err...infidelity. no doubt that is sth to be concerned abt, but i m appalled that the ST would give blazing coverage of this. Exclusive, omigod!!! i dun think they know of sth called Poisoning the well, and how unfair it is, do they?
anyway, i dun think that Chia's the only one who cheated on his wife.
remeber the looong exclusive on LHL? i was stunned at how he could be smiling, no beaming, in a photo taken three months after his wedding to his second wife. don't he practive mourning? at least he shud feel sad, shudn't he? its an insult to the first Mrs Lee's memory! n yet he can still be brazenly saying that he "treasures her". wad kind of nonsense is this?
its only becos he's an influential person, that the ST portrayed him in such glowering images.
that only shows you, ST is not exactl;y objective, izzit?
the horrified pikamaster
P.S.: for the PAP-is-always-the-besters hu wish to flame me, i wud like to tell them that im not in any way endorsing SC's inpalpable behaviour, but neither m i thrilled at the way his wife handled it.
our papers are dictated........... -
for all those that support him, show your support by sending him (or his party) letters, to show that not all singaporeans have given up on him.
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i certainly believes he deserves what he is getting. If you do no wrong, no one can accuse you of anything. Trying to frame yourself as a victim of some conspiracy sounds all too familiar (a tactic shared by a number of opposition party members when found guilty of misconduct?). Of course, the 'victim' will always have sympathizers isn't it? It sure beats being cast plainly as the perpetrator of semi-nude photos of the family maid.
Singapore is quite a conservative society but we do have nude paintings/sculptures around. If you engage it as a form of art, i guess it's pretty okay with most people. But being married, with an expectant wife, and doing it as a secret hobby, with your maid, simply hints at a perverse mind. What morals will he inculcate in our future generation?
As for the wife, what is done is done, no point saying what she should or should not have done. But i think discovering your husband engaging in such actvities with your maid is the ultimate insult, much like discovering an extramarital affair. And I wouldn't want a father like that. -
what proof have you that he was taking nude pics with his maid?
it can be seen very clearly in his photos that the pics he took of himself is in a very scenic area, definitely not 1 that can be found in singapore.
everyone is allowed to have their own hobbies. being a politician does not make him any less human, nor any more ethical. the man has committed no crime, nor has he wronged anyone.
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Since when did I say that he was taking nude pics with his maid??? Please read my post carefully.Originally posted by nismoS132:what proof have you that he was taking nude pics with his maid?
it can be seen very clearly in his photos that the pics he took of himself is in a very scenic area, definitely not 1 that can be found in singapore.
everyone is allowed to have their own hobbies. being a politician does not make him any less human, nor any more ethical. the man has committed no crime, nor has he wronged anyone.
why are you thirsting for his blood when he has been working hard for everyone's sake?
So what if he took pics of himself at other places? Does it mean ALL his pics were taken outside Singapore? I suppose the contents matter more than the location. Hmm... maybe he was trying to lead people off-track by showing an 'artistic' and 'taken out of Singapore' pic. How would you know what the rest of his collections contain?
Yes, a politician is no less human. But being a politician, he has to set a good example. Given that the maid incident is quite recent (about a month ago), he sure did not gain much sense since becoming a representative of the people. Something that is not illegal does not mean it is not immoral. I certainly would not put my trust in someone who had betrayed his wife, abused his position as an employer and had hoped to get away with it by quoting the bible and pointing to some conspiracy by the MIW, until he does some tangible good for the country instead of mere talk.
I'm not thirsting for his blood. Actually he had been non-existant to me until this incident came up. Pardon my ignorance, but I sincerely do not know how much 'hard work' he had put in for the people. -
Poor Steve Chia....he is exposed, of all the people, by his wife.
Now what? Can he still do a good job as NCMP (whatever that means in the first place?)
Actually, exposing himself to another person (reportedly with her consent) is nothing wrong. Willing parties you may say. But too bad his wife doesn't like the idea. And women can get really MAD and SPITEFUL when feeling resented or jilted. So here comes the long arm of the law and the kaypoh reporters.......... AAArrrrhhh....(has anybody counted how many pages of Straits / Sunday Times have been devoted to this issue???) So everything is exposed, literally. True his personal life should not affect his political life one may argue. Hear on.....
Having said all that, I think Steve will not make a very good politician for one very important reason ---- he does not know how to cover his track after what he has had done. Especially in Singapore, to survive as a politician, you must know how to present yourself (or pretend if you like). Do and say everything you want but at the end of the day.....you must put up your best front while sweeping your trash clean (and remember to empty the trash bin).
Remember, we are a "clean" city. Pure white. No nonsense no bullshit.
Look at all the other politicians who are at the "wrong" side of our brand of democracy. Voluntarily or otherwise, all their well kept secrets of yesteryears were somehow brought to the open, scrutinised and mocked at; and some even brought to court. Some fled, some silenced and some devastated to the point of no return.
Steve had better leave the country and go to a place where no one knows him. He is finished as far as his political life is concerned, perhaps even his social life. Finally, I wonder how the wife feels now. Triumph or tragedy? Conquest or condemned ? Whatever it is, she has to live with it for the rest of her life. -
I thought he was found to have been a good politician for bringing out issues that are well researched, and this was even mentioned by 'Baby Lee' who had commented on the situation.Originally posted by thinkloud2004:Hear on.....
Having said all that, I think Steve will not make a very good politician for one very important reason ---- he does not know how to cover his track after what he has had done. Especially in Singapore, to survive as a politician, you must know how to present yourself (or pretend if you like). Do and say everything you want but at the end of the day.....you must put up your best front while sweeping your trash clean (and remember to empty the trash bin).
Remember, we are a "clean" city. Pure white. No nonsense no bullshit.
Steve had the courage to come out into the open to declare his Private Interests in 'Nature Photography',
It is a matter of opinion on the choice of hobby.
As for Singapore being '....... a "clean" city. Pure white. No nonesense no bullshit.' - I am not so sure if Singapore is clean to the extent that there are no stains onto the 'Pure White'.
There has certainly been quite a few nonsense and bullshit that came from the supposedly 'Pure White' Political Party.
The early founder and still influential chief has publicly stated his admiration of the CEO of Japanese Companies, who will take full responsibilities for the ultimate mistakes of their subordinates, and who will quit their position in the Company. The action which amounts to their committing 'harakiri' to regain their honor.
Yet with at least four or five serious scandolous stains to the supposedly 'Pure Whiteness' of the Ruling Party, the founder and influential chief remains to this day.
For the sake of political expediency, stated declaration of admiration is applicable to others but not to oneself.
If this is not bullshit and pure nonsense, what else is ?continuation of post by thinkloud2004:
Why should Steve leave Singapore, if he has not committed any criminal offense ?
Look at all the other politicians who are at the "wrong" side of our brand of democracy. Voluntarily or otherwise, all their well kept secrets of yesteryears were somehow brought to the open, scrutinised and mocked at; and some even brought to court. Some fled, some silenced and some devastated to the point of no return.
Steve had better leave the country and go to a place where no one knows him. He is finished as far as his political life is concerned, perhaps even his social life.
Why should he quit his position in politics for his declared hobby and preference for an unusual hobby of 'Natural Photography' ?
The narrow mindedness and prudish mentality of a supposed modern Singapore is nothing short of hypocrisy, with double standards for almost everything and anything that one prefer to apply and make allowance for.
This is encouraged further by the Ruling Party in its use of the public mass media to move opinion in subtle ways, with the help of psychologists in the service of the Government. -
I have no gripes with his hobby, though I don't exactly agree with his interactions with his maid, he knew better.
But then again, it would be prudent to note that his actions are far more moral then many of the things with Men In White have done. So there... It would do them good not to take too big off a field trip on this one, lest in the words of Mr. Goh, they "expose themselves." -
[quote]Originally posted by Atobe:
Why should Steve leave Singapore, if he has not committed any criminal offense ?
> PERCEPTION. In this society of ours, how others see you is important unless of course you don't depend on anybody for survival, such as growing your own vegetables. Not committed any offence does not mean he is a free man. Yes he may be running freely on the streets but can he tolerate the glare and the whispering? I am not discussing how people should perceive him - leave that to the philosopher. I am talking about real life and lets not pretend that life is back to normal for him. Leaving Singapore will do him go.
Why should he quit his position in politics for his declared hobby and preference for an unusual hobby of 'Natural Photography' ?
> Of course that is your version based on reports. I have my version which I would like to leave it as my personal opinion. Every person is entitled to his or her "hobby", including perhaps those self declared "saints". My point again is, if he cannot cover up the unusual things (unsavory to some) that he has had done, then he cannot make a good politician.
The narrow mindedness and prudish mentality of a supposed modern Singapore is nothing short of hypocrisy, with double standards for almost everything and anything that one prefer to apply and make allowance for.
> Tell me one country or Governement that is not like this, besides heaven, if any.
This is encouraged further by the Ruling Party in its use of the public mass media to move opinion in subtle ways, with the help of psychologists in the service of the Government.
> A statement of compliment or disdain? It is a matter of opinion. -
Did Mdm Ho Ching bury her head under her husband's armpit after being exposed for the grand debacle of losing US$500 million of Singapore Reserves in her failed adventure with MICROPOLIS ?Originally posted by thinkloud2004:Originally posted by Atobe:
Why should Steve leave Singapore, if he has not committed any criminal offense ?
> PERCEPTION. In this society of ours, how others see you is important unless of course you don't depend on anybody for survival, such as growing your own vegetables. Not committed any offence does not mean he is a free man. Yes he may be running freely on the streets but can he tolerate the glare and the whispering? I am not discussing how people should perceive him - leave that to the philosopher. I am talking about real life and lets not pretend that life is back to normal for him. Leaving Singapore will do him go.
Why should he quit his position in politics for his declared hobby and preference for an unusual hobby of 'Natural Photography' ?
> Of course that is your version based on reports. I have my version which I would like to leave it as my personal opinion. Every person is entitled to his or her "hobby", including perhaps those self declared "saints". My point again is, if he cannot cover up the unusual things (unsavory to some) that he has had done, then he cannot make a good politician.
This loss becomes even more scandolous when it was made despite the advise from her more experienced predescessor - Dr Yeo Ning Hong.
Yet she is still being propelled into higher office, into the higher echelon of Temasek Holdings with more billion dollar foreign adventures taking over weak foreign enterprises with questionable futures.
SM LKY had to swallow his own publicly stated admiration of Japanese CEO's taking personal responsbility for the failures of subordinates.
Did SM LKY felt any responsibility for one of his Senior Cabinet Minister committing suicide for corruption, one Minister of State being prosecuted and jailed for corruption, and one Party Member being accused, investigated and absconded for corruption ?
As a matter of principle, did he follow his admiration of those Japanese CEOs act of personal admonition by committing 'career harakiri' to regain one's own honor ?
To be successful in Public Office, it seems that it is best to have a thick skin and to turn a deaf ear to public disdain, and produce a few more bright sparks to cover one bad stain.
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The narrow mindedness and prudish mentality of a supposed modern Singapore is nothing short of hypocrisy, with double standards for almost everything and anything that one prefer to apply and make allowance for.
> Tell me one country or Governement that is not like this, besides heaven, if any. Would you consider the amorous French, who willingly accept their late President Mitterand having a mistress and an illegitimate daughter ?
Any other society will not accept such a situation for a person holding high office.
It seems that Singapore has accepted the best and worse parts of Colonial English influences.
This depends on which side of the fence that your apolitical views prefer to view as being more expedient.
This is encouraged further by the Ruling Party in its use of the public mass media to move opinion in subtle ways, with the help of psychologists in the service of the Government.
> A statement of compliment or disdain? It is a matter of opinion.
If you are employed in the Government or semi-Government institution, it is best for you to be on the right side.
If you prefer to live with your own conscience and see to the correct political success of Singapore beyond the expiry time of the Premier Family's Leadership Role, then you will need to sharpen your mind to the present political status quo. -
A warning but Steve Chia faces no action
By Ben Nadarajan
POLICE have cleared Non-Constituency Member of Parliament Steve Chia of reports lodged by his wife that he had outraged the modesty of their Indonesian maid.
However, they have given him a slap on the wrist for possessing pornographic materials on his home computer.
The Straits Times broke the news more than two weeks ago that he had been reported to the police by his wife, Doreen, after she found sexy photos of their maid on the home computer.
In a statement yesterday, police spokesman Chua Chee Wai said the police had completed their investigations.
'After careful consideration of the facts and circumstances of the case and in consultation with the Attorney-General's Chambers, the police have decided to take no further action on the grounds that [color=red]no offence of outraging modesty is disclosed[/color],' he said.
Mr Chia, 34, has maintained that the maid, who is in her early 20s, had been a willing party in posing for the photos, which he said had her in her bra and jeans or topless with the vital parts covered.
During investigations, the police seized his computer.
The pictures of the maid were in its trash bin. But the police also found a folder with a pornographic movie which he had apparently downloaded from the Internet.
He had admitted this to reporters a few days after the news broke.
The police spokesman said Mr Chia was called to the Ang Mo Kio Police Division headquarters yesterday and given a warning, which he accepted.
He could have been fined up to $100 for illegally possessing an obscene film without valid certification.
He said yesterday: 'All along, I know that I am not guilty of wrongdoings... I feel relieved and vindicated by the outcome of the police investigations.'
The police statement also settles the question of whether he can keep his NCMP seat.
He had resigned as secretary-general of the National Solidarity Party (NSP) and as vice-chairman of its umbrella group, the Singapore Democratic Alliance (SDA).
An MP automatically loses his seat in Parliament if he is jailed for more than a year or fined more than $2,000.
In the party's first official statement on the incident, NSP president Yip Yew Weng yesterday apologised for any 'unhappiness' the incident might have caused.
He commended Mr Chia's 'open and frank attitude' in facing up to his problems and public criticisms.
SDA president Chiam See Tong said: 'Steve has performed well in Parliament and has sacrificed a lot for Singapore and opposition politics. He should be given a second chance.'
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