Human Organ Transplant Act
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Any 21yo above Singaporean or PR familar with tis HOTA , we are all being covered?
Do watch 2nite on channel Central at 10:00pm The Anatomists -
it should be compulsory for everyone.
for every single usable organ in your body. -
Except for the testes, please.Originally posted by nismoS132:it should be compulsory for everyone.
for every single usable organ in your body.
Those are way too personal....... -
Originally posted by [ Neo ]:Except for the testes, please.
Those are way too personal.......
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i don't think anyone would want your balls either...Originally posted by [ Neo ]:Except for the testes, please.
Those are way too personal....... -
Correct. No body would want any others', to be frank in fact.Originally posted by dead_clone:i don't think anyone would want your balls either...
And the reversal fact of which not everyone will be a willing party ( to donate out body organs ) will also be present.
So under such circumstances, how would the notion of complusory full body organ donation initivative come with the people?
Will the consequences of this alternative prove to serve the nation more constructively via the creation and the new avalibility of a wider organ bank, or will the motion come into conflict with prevailing sentiments?
Heavy and long enduring consequences spells for either perspective. Hence at this junction when the recent bill had just been introduced, would it prehaps, be more advisable for a frame of time to study deeper upon the implications that has yet to be fully surfaced?
More haste less speed. And when where the topic concerned come tangled with deep rooted issues, beliefs and both personal and sensative values, any imperative ingredient for decision making would definately be an advise for a very thorough feasibilty study-thru. -
i dun think balls r reusable
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Donating one's organs to save lives is a good deed, & many would definitely support. However, there are also concerns. Beside the brain dead issue currently being discuss in ST forum, the are more to look into. I hope someone can publicly give a more detail yet simple explanation regarding the HOTA, including organ transplant procedures, many people may have overlook or unaware�c
Some answer can be found at http://app.moh.gov.sg/our/our030201.asp
(I hv not finish reading yet)
Just a few 1st�c
Any watchdog to guards against loss, waste, theft, or undesirable practices?
The organs�c just like money always not enough�c how to trace where the organs end up?
Will the hospital give the decease's family member a list of organs that have been taken out?
What is being done to monitor the transparency of organs transplant and usage?
The so call "waiting lists" does it included overseas palient seeking for organ transplant in Singapore?
more questions or comment�c anyone?
Sorry�c ignorant is not bliss anymore, from now on I seek to understand more.
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With reference to the colored section, it is a complusory and standard operating procedure that the process of transplanting organs from one to another must be done two independent doctors.Originally posted by Kohi:Donating one's organs to save lives is a good deed, & many would definitely support. However, there are also concerns. Beside the brain dead issue currently being discuss in ST forum, the are more to look into. I hope someone can publicly give a more detail yet simple explanation regarding the HOTA, including organ transplant procedures, many people may have overlook or unaware�c
Some answer can be found at http://app.moh.gov.sg/our/our030201.asp
(I hv not finish reading yet)
Just a few 1st�c
Any watchdog to guards against loss, waste, theft, or undesirable practices?
The organs�c just like money always not enough�c how to trace where the organs end up?
Will the hospital give the decease's family member a list of organs that have been taken out?
What is being done to monitor the transparency of organs transplant and usage?
The so call "waiting lists" does it included overseas palient seeking for organ transplant in Singapore?
more questions or comment�c anyone?
Sorry�c ignorant is not bliss anymore, from now on I seek to understand more.
One to certified the unfortunate patient dead, and another to follow up on the organs extraction work.
The rest not too sure. -
certified a dead person should be quite easy, unless for brain dead patient, right? After the extraction work, the organs should be kept in a storage for checking first and not immediate transplant to patient, right? If not mistaken both information of the donor and patient are suppose to be confidential, correct?
In that case there is still no way of knowing later where the organs end up and no way the public can trace.
We may wonder what's all the fuss when we are dead, so while we are alive we have to understand, not forgetting we've got family members to consider too. So where you or love one's organs ends up isn't it important, anyone concern?
My hope is at least that the donated organs should benefit to all Singaporean and PR from walks of life (it only fair), **and NOT any wealthly overseas patients without very good reason seeking organ transplant in Singapore. Since all singaporean and PR above 21 are covered, imagin one day (touch wood) if you need an organ transplant, you have to wait long long... organs not enough... then come the cock & bull stories and smoke screen and drag & delay... too late liao...
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The blockage and prevention of organ transplants encourage by monetary benefits is indeed a shady and gray zone concerning the issue.Originally posted by Kohi:certified a dead person should be quite easy, unless for brain dead patient, right? After the extraction work, the organs should be kept in a storage for checking first and not immediate transplant to patient, right? If not mistaken both information of the donor and patient are suppose to be confidential, correct?
In the case there is still no way of knowing later where the organs end up and no way the public can trace.
We may wonder what's all the fuss when we are dead, so while we are alive we have to understand, not forgetting we got family members to consider too. So where your organs ends up is it important, anyone concern?
My hope is at least that the donated organs should benefit to all Singaporean and PR from walks of life (it only fair), **and NOT any wealthly overseas patients without very good reason seeking organ transplant in Singapore. Since all singaporean and PR above 21 are covered, imagin one day (touch wood) if you need an organ transplant, you have to wait long long... organs not enough... then come the cock & bull stories and smoke screen and drag & delay... too late liao...
And like you, I am also very much against the notion of such singular directed 'sale' whereby monies can be paid to identifiable individuals.
However, it must too, be recognized that implications involved concerns life-and-death circumstances, under which luxuries such as the having of ample waiting time will not be available.
By contrast, it might even be possible to save more lives should a consolidated organ bank could be created, with preference for either SE or NE region countries whereby both the genes of the dominant population are more highly similar to certain context levels, and where the relevant political and medicinal infrastructures are capable of providing safe and ethical administration of organ transplant cases.
Should a local pool be relied upon, the primary drawback apart from the dominant reluctance of the mainstream cluster, would be a severe reduction and limitation of succesful doner-receipient matching probability.
And if we were to go on further in a hypothetical example, assuming that a certain bill would then be passed to enable compulsory full bodied harvesting of organs upon the event of individual death,
the move might be viewed upon as being 'pushy', and thus, might not go down too well with the civillian level.
Civillains might feel pissed, with some feeling sore, some complying and others picking on it as another reason to migrate...
Loads of even hairier loose ends will have to be cleared up.
The central organ bank that operates on a regional level however would be able to help Singapore to avoid this potentially hairy entanglement, in addition with its assurance of higher successful matches from the efficiency of having to search thru only one single consolidated organ list for each respective organs.
Monies which are received from successful ops would also be better tracked and diverted away from illegal black market organ trades which are dominiant in countries such as India and Bangladesh.
Consequently, this would indirectly carry forth an isolated economical benefit, which is the reduced volume of illegal money laudering volumes which, without fail, would be carried out within a SE monetary market as well.
There are of course, hell of alot more deeper impact concerning other significant pros and cons, but at this level of discussion, we only need to know that 1) we need a wider pool of organs, and 2).......
Please...., no complusory full-bodied organs harvesting. -
but i feel very uncomfortable abt my organs being harvested
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why?
i mean.. when u're dead. there isn't a need for body parts.. they might save someone's life.
after all, when u're dead. u're either burning in hell and suffering so much to care if someone is using your kidneys, or u're in heaven enjoying so much to bother abt a few missing body parts. -
i'm not a christian so no heaven\hell for me
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it seems that only the muslims and the older generation had taboo regarding this.Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:i'm not a christian so no heaven\hell for me -
Like it or not the harvesting begun long ago & may expand to cover even more organs. For the sake of SgGirls fans, probably HOTA will include sexual parts & organs sooner
Hey Neo, "liquify the dead & feed the living"... does it mean anything 2 u, sound familiar? I hope more people like u can write in 2 ST forum or contribute some sort of article to improve the act, maybe? U r more pro in writing. Unlike me... & dumbdumb!, we know our limits
... 1/2pass6 language & dun like 2 read between the lines
I am NOT a christian, but I believe in God & that all man are sinners... that's why I visit Sggirl
Also I strongly believe that all religious is suppose to promote peace & harmony,
to simplify, everything [GOOD] is under God.
I.E(Heaven/God is white, Earth/Man is gray & Hell/Devil is black)
The more faith u hv, the more self-control u'll need. If u believe in God, dun 4get there is Satan. The devil always like to use the name of gods(religon) to decieve. As for free thinkers, u r
subject to the law of Nature & the universe (Some people just prefer the longer route), for more info on the law of Nature just watch more discovery channel 
Sometimes it better to quit entertaining ourselves 4 a while & find out things that concern us & what is really happening. Dun be 2 engross in the Matrix
B4 I go, I like to share a few website (4 those u dun know yet)
ST Forum - http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/home/0,1869,,00.html?
Hv any1 watched channel Central at 10:00pm The Anatomists? I think there will be a part 2 next Fri.
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1364.cfm
I repeat I am NOT a christian, I just read it wif an 'open' mind & never believe in *everything* u read. [Warning: PG or 18 & above, content maybe offensive to some, visit at your own risk ] -
when i die whatever i can give back to help ppl... i will give...
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same here.. who knows... maybe with my dead body i can save another 5 lives, who might be ppl who will really impact society in a good way. isn't it worth it?
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eberyone auto included........but there is an opt-out option
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i'm opting out unless the person who needs it is a relativeOriginally posted by FireIce:eberyone auto included........but there is an opt-out option
sorry but i just feel that way and i would hate it if the moment i die people start treating me like a merchandise -
Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:i'm opting out unless the person who needs it is a relative
sorry but i just feel that way and i would hate it if the moment i die people start treating me like a merchandise planning what they want to take and where they would like to cut up -
Hi oldbreadstinks, dumbdumb! & weidev, this HOTA topic main focus is about questions on tranparency issues, to find out more about the act. I very much support organ donation for a GOOD cause. I could have just choose to opt-out, why bother 2 post this topic. Like u dumbdumb! & weidev, I also believe in helping people if I can, the only different is that maybe I hv become paranoid toward life. Decision can be simple and easy to some, not 4 me.
Even if it is a good deed, one must contribute with knowledge and not blindly. Neo hv good points, hope that there are more being done/ educate the general public on the act. (To be honest, I understand only about 50-70% wat Neo wrote
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For those who like myself who support the HOTA, yet concern about the tranparency, please help to find out more and share it. -
Haha.. oh come on Kohi.. U're making me blush.
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can someone summarise n enlighten me the issue here?
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All 21y.o. & above Singaporean or PR die... organs MUST auto donate under HOTA.Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:can someone summarise n enlighten me the issue here?
How the organs are used or where the organs go, information not very clear to some people & others don't care. Die oredi how 2 care 
U still not clear... read above again carefully & visit some of the website