Increasing rate of divorce cases in Singapore
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Will we one day be the same as Western countries in terms of our divorce rates? Are you afraid that it will come to such a stage?
Are Singaporeans not aware of the commitment and hard work in making a marriage work these days?
Or are we losing out "traditional values"?
I hope one day the government will allow any individual to purchase their own home. At least we will not hear this used as a proposal for marriage any longer, "Eh do you want to buy a flat with me in Bishan/Telok Blangah/ Redhill/ Sengkang/ Ponggol ah???"
OMG that is like a romance killer!
Oh crap.. look at my bad english, it should be increases number of divorce cases in Singapore. -
Err, sad to say, quite a few marriages are bonded by material values.
As for tradition - what tradition? Values? What values?
It's all STATUS right now. Living in SG, is no joke. ( ! )
I Think gone are those days of old..... -
Shutterbug?!? Is it that bad?
I went back to sg once. This couple that i knew from way back were obviously having issues in their relationship. The girl used to make her boyfriend jealous on purpose. At this stage they were 24/27 i thought that mind games were too juvenile for this bunch.
She used to admit to me that they were having issues but they were not resolving it. The last i heard they applied and received the key for the HDB flat. With supply outstripping demand these days, they got the ok earlier than they expected from HDB. Consequently... they had to rush and ROM.
Why did they still want to get married??? I didn't understand.. just because it was the 'right' thing to do.. so might as well do it?? -
Well, I think people ( specially the younger ones ) aren't tying their knots and committing to multiple babies because they wanna achieve more, and basically enjoy life a little longer - or more. It's also a lot harder to enjoy life these days then before. It costs more...
As it is well known, stress levels in making a living here has gone up, competition in everything, and I guess, people generally don't wanna risk it, or like someone said; don't wanna bring in another life into such a stressful existence. While those who can afford it, are setting up roots elsewhere - they became Foreign Talents.
And then some, find they have no time to babysit, and don't have the means to hire maids because of ever increasing levees, and costs of childcare services. This all, still points to costs..
You know, I just wonder which part of the word C-O-S-T-S, that our government don't understand??
If it isn't for high costs of living, why then, are so many families functioning with two, or combined incomes? And then the topic about our Education System, is quite another matter to live with, or up to.
So what gives? Something, has to give.....
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I just bought a new Kick Ass notebook computer, i have a nice kitchen with equipment even a professional Chef would be proud to own.Originally posted by ShutterBug:Well, I think people ( specially the younger ones ) aren't tying their knots and committing to multiple babies because they wanna achieve more, and basically enjoy life a little longer - or more. It's also a lot harder to enjoy life these days then before. It costs more...
My closets (notice plural) are bursting with last seasons' and the one before's designer wear.
Yes, I am Single. I have my own apartment.
Would I be able to have all these if I had kids?
I don't Think So. -
Full outside, empty inside (and I mean more then just the head).Originally posted by AzRaeL:I just bought a new Kick Ass notebook computer, i have a nice kitchen with equipment even a professional Chef would be proud to own.
My closets (notice plural) are bursting with last seasons' and the one before's designer wear.
Yes, I am Single. I have my own apartment.
Would I be able to have all these if I had kids?
I don't Think So.
Apparently even celebrities who have it much more then you decide to end it all by taking a plunge off a hotel on April Fool's day, maybe they chanced upon something you hope never to find about the true depravity of your ways, in which case it's everybody's hope you learn about it soon instead of taking a flight later down the road. -
Azrael.. a bit off topic.. are you selling these?? Any Fendi Baguettes? Or are you a guy?Originally posted by AzRaeL:I just bought a new Kick Ass notebook computer, i have a nice kitchen with equipment even a professional Chef would be proud to own.
My closets (notice plural) are bursting with last seasons' and the one before's designer wear.
Yes, I am Single. I have my own apartment.
Would I be able to have all these if I had kids?
I don't Think So. -
SgTy, but he had other mental issues isn't it? And he didn't die lonely either, he had all these friends and a boyfriend.Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Full outside, empty inside (and I mean more then just the head).
Apparently even celebrities who have it much more then you decide to end it all by taking a plunge off a hotel on April Fool's day, maybe they chanced upon something you hope never to find about the true depravity of your ways, in which case it's everybody's hope you learn about it soon instead of taking a flight later down the road.
I agree that it is a shell, but can you live like the homeless guy at Queen Victoria market... he's always wondering up and down the street, he digs around in the bins for something to eat. And he has nothing to wear during winter.
Does this have anything to do with having kids? Some people never have a biological clock ticking in their lifetime. It's their choice isn't it? -
does that mean we need to allow gay marriages?Originally posted by Lingos:Will we one day be the same as Western countries in terms of our divorce rates? Are you afraid that it will come to such a stage?
Are Singaporeans not aware of the commitment and hard work in making a marriage work these days?
Or are we losing out "traditional values"?
I hope one day the government will allow any individual to purchase their own home. At least we will not hear this used as a proposal for marriage any longer, "Eh do you want to buy a flat with me in Bishan/Telok Blangah/ Redhill/ Sengkang/ Ponggol ah???"
OMG that is like a romance killer!
Oh crap.. look at my bad english, it should be increases number of divorce cases in Singapore.
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Prehaps it's fortunate such people have no legacy to leave behind?Originally posted by Lingos:SgTy, but he had other mental issues isn't it? And he didn't die lonely either, he had all these friends and a boyfriend.
I agree that it is a shell, but can you live like the homeless guy at Queen Victoria market... he's always wondering up and down the street, he digs around in the bins for something to eat. And he has nothing to wear during winter.
Does this have anything to do with having kids? Some people never have a biological clock ticking in their lifetime. It's their choice isn't it? -
WHO ask u all so many people marrying.?
Y gt divorce? becos people marry!
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I'm talking about the number of divorce cases in Singapore. This has no relation to the number of marriages.Originally posted by Ah Ma:WHO ask u all so many people marrying.?
Y gt divorce? becos people marry!
There has always been people getting married, but in recent years, we have seen an increase in divorces. Are these divorce cases attributed to social or economic factors? -
moneyOriginally posted by Lingos:I'm talking about the number of divorce cases in Singapore. This has no relation to the number of marriages.
There has always been people getting married, but in recent years, we have seen an increase in divorces. Are these divorce cases attributed to social or economic factors? -
In one of his last National Day Rally speech at the Kallang Theatre (before handing the PM's chair to GCT), LKY had reflected on the satisfaction, after-thoughts, and regrets of all the policies initiated and pushed forward by himself, during his long period of as the First PM of Singapore.
One of his stated after-thought on a policy that had PROBABLY caused the large number of UNMARRIED Women with Higher Education (Tertiary Education) - was the Women's Charter.
The Women's Charter protects the Women's rights, and require the Singapore Man to have only ONE Wife - (except for Muslims, whose marriage rights are governed by the Suriah Laws)
His thoughts were influenced by his observation that there exist a large number of highly educated ladies being left as Singles; which he felt was due to the nature of Singapore Men, who had a strong preference to MARRY-DOWN the education scale - or the Men preferring to marry someone LESS educated than themselves.
LKY felt that the Women's Charter may have worsened the situation of the already worsening large numbers of Highly Educated and SINGLE Women.
He, quite seriously, said that PERHAPS without the Women's Charter, then Singapore Men may have been able to LEGALLY 'adopt' a few more women to be their spouses, as had been a practise amongst the older generation of capable and venerable men.
If this process was available, this will result in Highly Educated Women being married to Highly Capable Men, and perhaps more Children with high potential can be pro-created.
There will be LESS number of Highly Educated Women who need to remain Single.
With one push of the pen, the Women's Charter was legislated that eventually caused all the hardship for Singapore Men - having to conduct their love affairs in an illicit manner, with illicit by-products, and causing all the miseries to established marriages, and the final result of heart wrenching divorces. -
Yeah right, highly educated women who became principals and give young students police records and some to hospital because of their oversightedness.... YAH?
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Last time thought wedding is such a great thing.
Nowadays, relationships break up so fast, at weddings I have the itch to ask "When the divorce?" -
u will be asking for trouble if u really ask...Originally posted by laurence82:Last time thought wedding is such a great thing.
Nowadays, relationships break up so fast, at weddings I have the itch to ask "When the divorce?"
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S*it i was hoping i could say the same thing to my close relative. She is a princess and needs to be on her own for like 2 years to grow up and deal with her issues. She also needs to know that she can't have everything her way and to live and let live. Her tantrums is causing too much disruption to their relatives including me.Originally posted by laurence82:Last time thought wedding is such a great thing.
Nowadays, relationships break up so fast, at weddings I have the itch to ask "When the divorce?"
Could this be one of the causes? The people are generally getting married cos they are almost 30 and it is expected of them? They forget that age doesn't come with maturity of the mind. It could also be peer pressure or pressure from the family. If i hear once more when am I getting married, and i'm in my early 20's... i will crack! -
And there would be a problem with it...?? Because??Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:does that mean we need to allow gay marriages?
It is against the law, yet it is so rife and occuring under our noses.. yes in your HDB flat, someone is ahumping.. and it ain't a heterosexual couple. My neighbour in Sg is a gay couple, you have to be lying if you say that you do not know that half of the entertainment circle in Sg is gay. Even Goh is going on about allowing gays into the civil service.
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HAHAHAHHAHA... He is condoning polyamory? I find this quite hard to believe. I mean, is he saying that it's alright and he should have allowed men to marry more than one wife? HUH? Are we like in some sort of tribal community or swingers' nation?Originally posted by Atobe:LKY felt that the Women's Charter may have worsened the situation of the already worsening large numbers of Highly Educated and SINGLE Women.
He, quite seriously, said that PERHAPS without the Women's Charter, then Singapore Men may have been able to LEGALLY 'adopt' a few more women to be their spouses, as had been a practise amongst the older generation of capable and venerable men.
If this process was available, this will result in Highly Educated Women being married to Highly Capable Men, and perhaps more Children with high potential can be pro-created.
There will be LESS number of Highly Educated Women who need to remain Single.
With one push of the pen, the Women's Charter was legislated that eventually caused all the hardship for Singapore Men - having to conduct their love affairs in an illicit manner, with illicit by-products, and causing all the miseries to established marriages, and the final result of heart wrenching divorces.
One of the contributing factors could be the financial independence of women in the Singapore society. -
I really don't think we have the right to comment on who should and who shouldn't be having children. The reality is there are plenty of people on this earth who shouldn't have kids.Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Prehaps it's fortunate such people have no legacy to leave behind?
Where I work on weekends, single mothers with SSP-> single supporting parent pension cards come in all the time. On their card is 5 different children's name as their dependent. These people make a living out of breeding like bunnies. It makes me sicker that more than 30% of my income goes to these trailer trash who procreate for a living.
So people who don't want kids because they acknowledge that they do not have the patience or time to educate their children is criticised by you? Whereas those who do it without thought on their situation is condoned by you? -
With regard to your first paragraph in indigo color, is well-substantiated.Originally posted by Lingos:I really don't think we have the right to comment on who should and who shouldn't be having children. The reality is there are plenty of people on this earth who shouldn't have kids.
Where I work on weekends, single mothers with SSP-> single supporting parent pension cards come in all the time. On their card is 5 different children's name as their dependent. These people make a living out of breeding like bunnies. It makes me sicker that more than 30% of my income goes to these trailer trash who procreate for a living.
So people who don't want kids because they acknowledge that they do not have the patience or time to educate their children is criticised by you? Whereas those who do it without thought on their situation is condoned by you?
As to your second paragraph in red color, I think its a bit crude of you to call the mother of 5 a trailer trash. You never knew her story of how she managed to borne 5 children. Could it be for religious needs? Or for personal reasons such as the love of children?
Your final paragraph in blue color, is well-substantiated. -
Well I believe, the reasons for divorce would be simply, the 2 people were not right for each other. They entered a very serious committment without any planning or wisdom of what they were doing, and what could possibly result from such a union. I myself, if i ever had a girl, would not rush a marriage or anything like that. I believe communication from both parties is essential. Perhaps now the government will have "marriage" workshops heh, but that would not be a bad idea,,, to let people know that they have to be serious about marriage, and not to regard it as something they can back out of.
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Sk if you had met these people and recognise how they behave. You would know they are trailer trash. I'm not refering to one person. There is a group of people who live on Pension Cards which my $800/mth tax deductions pays for. They do not want to get proper jobs. Procreating is how they earn my tax money from the government. I'm not disputing about how much they love their kids. I'm talking about dole bludgers.Originally posted by :With regard to your first paragraph in indigo color, is well-substantiated.
As to your second paragraph in red color, I think its a bit crude of you to call the mother of 5 a trailer trash. You never knew her story of how she managed to borne 5 children. Could it be for religious needs? Or for personal reasons such as the love of children?
Your final paragraph in blue color, is well-substantiated. -
But, you only see them coming in and asking for pension cards. Some of these people earn unrealistically low wages. Sometimes, you should wander what type of home they live in and their living conditions, do you think they want to stay in poor conditions? Is it by choice?Originally posted by Lingos:Sk if you had met these people and recognise how they behave. You would know they are trailer trash. I'm not refering to one person. There is a group of people who live on Pension Cards which my $800/mth tax deductions pays for. They do not want to get proper jobs. Procreating is how they earn my tax money from the government. I'm not disputing about how much they love their kids. I'm talking about dole bludgers.
Share a heart, its a benefit the government gives to the less fortunate people a small chunk of the tax payers money. I am sure, there some people who abuse this system, but there are more less fortunate people than these abusers. One thing is, they all fall under the same category.