SIA Girl Letter
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A letter to our guest columns ... interesting idea, Ryan Goh as a MIW mole to screw ALPA ... conspiracy theorists pls step out!!
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I am writing in response to the SM vs ALPA episode. In my opinion, which will probably invite alot of flame, I think the instigator, Capt Ryan Goh should have his PR revoked and sent packing back to Matland. He did not dispute the facts that were laid out in his face to suggest that he is a : backstabbing bastard, a snivelling snitch, a fucker who will sell his mother to the OKTs (pimps). These are the FACTS which were not mentioned in the press release. While I do not approve that the old Emperor Lee has to always make his entry into local industrial dispute affairs and more or less arm twist the people to his way ... I similarly do not think that a Matland pilot should be running around gallivanting for the rights of his so-called "comrades" in flying when he is in actual fact screwing their backsides. Who knows? This Capt Ryan Goh could even be working for the MIW as a mole to cause dissension in ALPA so that they are ashamed when suddenly exposed of the dirty politics behind the union. As an aside, the government should review its FT policy then, is a Matland dickhead like Capt Ryan Goh desrving to be called a Talent? How many such Talents do we have??
I rest my case.
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Was SM LKY being fair in TARGETTING an individual in the person of Capt. Goh ?
Afterall, Capt Goh is a Malaysian, and his talent was sought after, and was used to the fullest in the profit making of SIA.
Has he no RIGHT - as a Permanent Resident Individual - in representing his own WORKER's Rights and Interests as an employee for SIA ?
Soon all the Permanent Residents will have second thoughts as to the PERMANENCE of their RESIDENTSHIP in Singapore, whenever the crunch comes up when they have to measure or negotiate the Value of their Contributions vis-a-vis the Benefits that they are getting out of their present economic arrangement with Singapore.
Capt Goh was 'The instigator'
Captain Ryan Goh was singled out by Senior Minister Lee as the 'instigator' of last November's move to oust the Alpa-S leadership. Did other pilots know that the Malaysian citizen had also made plans to move to Perth? Capt Goh later defended his actions.
The statement Mr Lee released to the media:
Capt Ryan Goh Yew Hock was a member of the previous Executive Council of the Air Line Pilots Association Singapore (Alpa-S) under the leadership of Capt Dilip Padbidri.
Between June and November last year, Capt Goh secretly agitated against his own Executive Council and president Dilip Padbidri, with a view to ousting him from office.
Capt Goh crafted a petition but did not sign it himself.
He worked behind the scenes through several proxies to gather signatures for his petition while he hid his hand.
He was aware that what he was doing was unethical since he was then a member of the Alpa-S Executive Council that had negotiated and agreed to the Singapore Airlines (SIA) management's package of wage cuts and economy measures.
Before he initiated these developments, Capt Ryan Goh had applied and secured permanent residence from Australia in November 2002.
He re-located his wife and children to settle down in Australia last year.
He sold his Housing Board four-room flat in Toa Payoh Block 179 for $320,000 in October last year and at the same time, bought a house in Ballajura, Perth.
When arranging to ship his Mercedes-Benz to Perth, he told an official in IE Singapore in December 2002 that he would move because 'the grass had stopped growing' in Singapore.
Capt Goh and his family have enjoyed the benefits of Singapore permanent residency since 1981.
He used his Singapore permanent residency status to obtain the benefits of job, HDB housing and union Exco membership.
In Alpa-S, he assumed the post of Industrial Secretary from 1998 to 2000, vice-president (Industrial) from 2000 to 2001, and Exco member from June last year.
That did not restrain him from surreptitiously initiating actions that would undermine industrial peace in SIA and also put Singapore's economic interests at risk.
Capt Goh must know that his actions could weaken the position of SIA and Singapore.
When he initiated these actions, he had already become an Australian PR in 2002 and bought a home in Perth last year.
He had moved his two sons from schools in Singapore to schools in Perth.
He kept secret these preparations for himself and his family, while holding himself out as a brave Alpa-S unionist who is protecting the interests of his fellow pilots.
Capt Goh did not dispute the statement, saying it was factual, but he denied being the instigator:
'I don't think I've been as bad as I've been made out to be...It says here that I had a hand in the ousting of the council. That is true.
But I'm not the instigator.In my opinion at the time, the council was losing, the leaders were losing the support of the body.
And as a company we would be in serious trouble if the leadership of the association could not be trusted by the body.In future, the management will come to the union and say: 'You need to do this for us.'
How is the leadership going to sell it to the general membership when members do not trust the leadership?
Now that is the perception. I'm not here to cast a slur on individuals but that is the only way we do it.
And in order not to make it personal... the whole idea was to make it faceless.
And I'm sure the individuals concerned were well aware the petition was being called for them to step down.
As for the other part about the selling of the properties and moving to Australia, well, I had purchased a place in Toa Payoh so that my daughter could get into CHIJ as it was within the 1km radius.
Now that reason no longer remains, so I sold it.
But I still have another house in Katong.
So that does not prove that I was moving away to Australia.
(Capt Goh had said earlier that he had sent his son to Perth because his son could not cope with Chinese lessons at school here).
And as for selling the car, it's just simple arithmetic, because the certificate of entitlement (COE) for my car was quite high and I could get a good price for the car.
And after I scrapped it, I shipped it to Australia and it would still carry about $8,000.
If I were to purchase the same car in Australia, it would cost me about $30,000.
So it's just pure arithmetic.
Singapore is welcoming foreign talent and I may be a foreigner but I call this place home.'
http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/singapore/story/0,4386,237196,00.html? -
Originally posted by The Void Deck:
FWAH~!
I am writing in response to the SM vs ALPA episode. In my opinion, which will probably invite alot of flame, I think the instigator, Capt Ryan Goh should have his PR revoked and sent packing back to [b]Matland. He did not dispute the facts that were laid out in his face to suggest that he is a : backstabbing bastard, a snivelling snitch, a fucker who will sell his mother to the OKTs (pimps). These are the FACTS which were not mentioned in the press release. While I do not approve that the old Emperor Lee has to always make his entry into local industrial dispute affairs and more or less arm twist the people to his way ... I similarly do not think that a Matland pilot should be running around gallivanting for the rights of his so-called "comrades" in flying when he is in actual fact screwing their backsides. Who knows? This Capt Ryan Goh could even be working for the MIW as a mole to cause dissension in ALPA so that they are ashamed when suddenly exposed of the dirty politics behind the union. As an aside, the government should review its FT policy then, is a Matland dickhead like Capt Ryan Goh desrving to be called a Talent? How many such Talents do we have??
I rest my case.
SIA Girl
our air-waitresses speak like that one ah?
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ya lor, we also very interested about this SIA girl leh ... mebbe its those auntie types wif the faded green kebayas ... hehehe
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Originally posted by Atobe:
You make good points Atobe, which I fully agree with. Then again, this Ryan Goh chap set himself up for the fall by drafting the petition, urging his colleagues to sign and then REFUSE to do likewise.
Was SM LKY being fair in TARGETTING an individual in the person of Capt. Goh ?
Afterall, Capt Goh is a Malaysian, and his talent was sought after, and was used to the fullest in the profit making of SIA.
Has he no RIGHT - as a Permanent Resident Individual - in representing his own WORKER's Rights and Interests as an employee for SIA ?
Soon all the Permanent Residents will have second thoughts as to the PERMANENCE of their RESIDENTSHIP in Singapore, whenever the crunch comes up when they have to measure or negotiate the Value of their Contributions vis-a-vis the Benefits that they are getting out of their present economic arrangement with Singapore.
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LKY used the opportunity to paint Singaporean citizens and PRs who acquire PR as people who have "fall-back positions" and hence willing to rock the boat because they can flee is Singapore fails. That is nothing new, we all know how the Ruling Party sees them as quitters. Thats fine by me, because I look around this forum and I know thats not true. A lot are people who love Singapore but simply had enough of LKY and his ilk and choose to leave. Theres nothing wrong in that.
What Ryan Goh did with his actions was to allow the Ruling Party paint Singaporeans with foriegn PRs as people with QUESTIONABLE CHARACTER, who agitate behind the scenes but do not have the courage to put their money where their mouths are. Ryan Goh is a snivelling rat, but not all who take foreign PRs are. -
I am not so sure if Capt Ryan Goh had set himself up as a Fall Guy, or whether he was singled out to be one in the usual political strategy adopted by SM LKY handling of any Opposition.Originally posted by Viper52:You make good points Atobe, which I fully agree with. Then again, this Ryan Goh chap set himself up for the fall by drafting the petition, urging his colleagues to sign and then REFUSE to do likewise.
LKY used the opportunity to paint Singaporean citizens and PRs who acquire PR as people who have "fall-back positions" and hence willing to rock the boat because they can flee is Singapore fails. That is nothing new, we all know how the Ruling Party sees them as quitters. Thats fine by me, because I look around this forum and I know thats not true. A lot are people who love Singapore but simply had enough of LKY and his ilk and choose to leave. Theres nothing wrong in that.
What Ryan Goh did with his actions was to allow the Ruling Party paint Singaporeans with foriegn PRs as people with QUESTIONABLE CHARACTER, who agitate behind the scenes but do not have the courage to put their money where their mouths are. Ryan Goh is a snivelling rat, but not all who take foreign PRs are.
From the ST report of Capt Ryan Goh's statement there seems already a loss of faith by the general membership of ALPA-S towards the ability of the previous ALPA-S Committee - of which Capt Ryan Goh was a member.
Being a Committee Member, he has a right to have an opposing view from that held by the Committee, as would the case be from the General Membership of ALPA-S.
Interestingly enough, nothing was mentioned as to how many others in the previous Committee held similar position as Capt Goh, and if they were Singaporeans or foreigners holding Singapore PR status.
The fact that Capt Goh was singled out remains unfortunate, and is typical of SM's style of Politics in making one person an examplary fall guy, so as to discipline the others.
Unfortunately, he did not count on the reply that Capt Goh made, and ST published in some detail; and which seem to necessitate another article 48 hours later to clear up any doubt as to SM's control of the meeting.
It was to the credit of those at the meeting with SM LKY, from the present and previous ALPA-S leadership, to have faced SM squarely, and to the extent of even turning down NTUC Secretary-General's invitation for ALPA-S to be under the umbrella of the NTUC.
Interestingly, the rebuttal from the President of ALPA-S - which embarrassed the Sec-General of NTUC - was not published in the ST report but had slipped through the censors scissors at ChannelNewsAsia.
Surely Capt Ryan Goh was intelligent enought to have given a reasonable reply to the accusation that he instigated and crafted the 'PETITION', and refusing to sign it ?
I will not be surprised if his reply to this point had been censored, and I would guess his reply would have followed the following lines -
that he was one amongst the Committee Members opposing the decision of compromising to the SIA Management - in the face of list of grieviances that has been endured by all at ALPA-S, and which SIA Management had refused to respond to,
that SIA Management do not believe in dealing with ALPA-S with equal status and respect;
that he was given this task of drafting a petition by the Members, and being in the Committee he could not possibly sign on that petition to sack himself.
It remains unfortunate that a PR - whose talent was sought by Singapore - is being singled out for abuse, and that his status as a PR do not entitle him to represent himself - or be represented in any industrial action.
This will be a telling statement to all PR in Singapore, and any others who plan to take up PR status.
It would have been helpful if the rights and privileges of PRs in Singapore be made clearer, and that PRs be informed that they have NO RIGHTS to any benefits of Industrial Representations.
With regards to SM LKY's view of Singaporeans taking Foreign PR status, it is unfortunate that he has allowed Singapore to benefit from the services offered by PR from other countries.
It is typical hypocrisy of the Ruling Party that they should encourage Singaporeans to spread our Wings, and yet will deride Singaporeans who take up PR status in foreign countries so as to circumvent the regulations of host countries in deterring 'economic migrants'.
Will it not be to this effect that by telling Singaporeans to spread our Wings is practically making Singaporeans to be 'Economic Migrants' in one form or another ? -
Alamak, I forgot what is MIW. What is MIW?