Homosexual
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Gentlemen, please tone down a little, I seriously don't want an all out flame war to happen here.
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hey pple! Mod scold liao leh... don't flame ah...
i shall stop poking the troll then... no fun anymore anyway... too predictable...
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1st off, you DO NOT have an argument. U have a misconception. a MISCONCEPTION that the whole world is easily and readily divided into black and white.Originally posted by PRP:Greengoblin,
I do not pass judgement on a particular person but judge on homo.Morality should be universal, it shouldn't be my morality or your moralilty.
Heng,
Why don't rebut my argument?Just give subjective judgemental words is easy.
2nd, you have not dared to admit your ignorance yet, and u have conveniently skirted the issue that u ARE ignorant enough, and uptight enough to automatically assume any word you do not understand consitutes an insult.
3rd, I do not give subjective judgemental words. You are the one taking all the easy ways out, but making "escapist" statements like that. What I say about you, are NOT subjective judgemental because I HAVE evidence to prove that you are ignorant AND narrow-minded.
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Actually.... he seems to remind me of panja_v... asking a question many tmes even when he has the answer... starting another thread talking about pap dogs or CX... going through 8 pages of rubbish... everybody in the end can't stand him.... no evidence given by his exclamation....
MAybe I am just being obsessed with him
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Unless homo is right,one shouldn't choose it.Why don't homo supporters say homo is right?It is because they know most ppl don't think homo is right and they DON'T KNOW whether homo is right or not too.So they should be humble enuf to say they don't know whether homo is right.But they say homo is neither right nor wrong.By saying so, they cofuse ppl thru their ignorance.
Homo supporters,don't know say don't know and don't assume u know, pls.
Loudmonkey,
Hi, don't be discouraged.Say what u want to say but don't read the replies from CX if u don't want to be disappointed by him.He is a kiasu guy and he must have the last say if your stand is different from his. It is impossible to persuade an unreasonable guy like him to bleive your viewpoint.So no point to debate with him nor read his rebuttals -
heh... and he thought u left the previous discussion cos u were "afraid" of meOriginally posted by stupidissmart:Actually.... he seems to remind me of panja_v... asking a question many tmes even when he has the answer... starting another thread talking about pap dogs or CX... going through 8 pages of rubbish... everybody in the end can't stand him.... no evidence given by his exclamation....
MAybe I am just being obsessed with him
nay... nobody's obsessed with him... but i am rather amused with him
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me?Originally posted by PRP:Loudmonkey,
Hi, don't be discouraged.Say what u want to say but don't read the replies from CX if u don't want to be disappointed by him.He is a kiasu guy and he must have the last say if your stand is different from his. It is impossible to persuade an unreasonable guy like him to bleive your viewpoint.So no point to debate with him nor read his rebuttals u must really think that i'm the centre of the universe man... read Loudmonkey properly... i have no problems with his views and he knows it.
but i am terribly amused by how u came to the conclusion that it's MY fault again... 
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Stupidissmart,
I thought u are not a homo supporter but now it seem u are.I don't write the whole 8 pages,CX and his supporters wrote more words than me.U say i have no evidences.I have give reasons to support my arguments,haven't I?Ask homo supporter to give me evidences to show homo is good.If u disagree with my argument,u should have spoken up ealier instead of letting the intllectually bankrupt guy CX do most of the talking.
Yes, i asked the question "Is heterosexaulity right?"to CX about 5 times but did he give a direct answer?He said it was a stupid question and u think likewise,don't u?
Heng,
U finally rebut my argument.Your msg is full of subjective judgemental words or comments.Readers can judge themselves whether it is so.So i think u are unable to rebut my argument.But u are better than CX in that u don't anyhow argue or insult. -
Stupidissmart,
I thought u are not a homo supporter but now it seem u are.I don't write the whole 8 pages,CX and his supporters wrote more words than me.U say i have no evidences.I have give reasons to support my arguments,haven't I?Ask homo supporter to give me evidences to show homo is good.If u disagree with my argument,u should have spoken up ealier instead of letting the intllectually bankrupt guy CX do most of the talking.
Yes, i asked the question "Is heterosexaulity right?"to CX about 5 times but did he give a direct answer?He said it was a stupid question and u think likewise,don't u?
Heng,
U finally rebut my argument.Your msg is full of subjective judgemental words or comments.Readers can judge themselves whether it is so.So i think u are unable to rebut my argument.But u are better than CX in that u don't anyhow argue or insult. -
this gets tedious... say its my fault again... oh! and i saw that thread u started too
u wanna discredit me? its easy. just read my posts on the first few pages and reply to them point by point. just say WHAT u do not agree with and WHY.
i won't repeat myself anymore... if u wanna hang around and act hero, act victim here, u carry on... i'm just gonna laugh everytime i see a pathetic attempt to make me look like a bully and u, like a victim. -
My stand is different from CX.. and is probably different from yours too
My problem about u is instead of droning a sentence... maybe u should come up with more stuffs.... In such debate u really need to increase your content... which I fear is really lacking... -
fark lah...just have sex and be happy
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How can be such thing as a universal morality??? For example, some people may view eating meat as being sinful while others {like me} eat for survivalOriginally posted by PRP:Morality should be universal, it shouldn't be my morality or your moralilty.
But ultimately, we come to an agreement by accepting each other for who we are.
Same goes for homosexuality. How can there be a universal stand on such an issue. It is pretty shallow to even conceive such a rational. Ultimately we still have to accept each other for who we are and respect each other's views. -
I couldn't post msg here because my internet explorer was faulty due to someone (i believe not CX) sent some bug to my computer.He wanted to prevent me from speaking on this topic.I've said if anyone dislike my msg,he can don't read my msg again just as i didn't read CX's msg recently because he hurled many insulting words on me.But he did in a way that prevented me from using the internet and speaking to others.
He should be a homo or bisexual person.However i don't mean heterosexual person wouldn't do such a thing.
"Austraian PM is to amend the law to define marriage as heterosexual union." --- Straits Times, 29 May 2004
Is Austraila PM narrow-minded and bigoted?Pls be forewarned, don't make unsubstanciated allegations because he may sue u for defamation. -
Greengoblin,
I can accept homosexuals as human beings.But it doesn't mean one shouldn't find out whether homosex is right or not.Perhaps u would like to read more of my previous msg to understnad my stand. -
lets not continue skipping the issue lah huh? i dun need ppl to tell me im better or worse than someone or another. what i do want, is for u to explain WHY u even thought "siggy" is an insulting word, and HOW that doesn't prove your certain degree of ignorance and narrow mindedness. AND WHY you cannot understand the concept of "grey area"Originally posted by PRP:Stupidissmart,
I thought u are not a homo supporter but now it seem u are.I don't write the whole 8 pages,CX and his supporters wrote more words than me.U say i have no evidences.I have give reasons to support my arguments,haven't I?Ask homo supporter to give me evidences to show homo is good.If u disagree with my argument,u should have spoken up ealier instead of letting the intllectually bankrupt guy CX do most of the talking.
Yes, i asked the question "Is heterosexaulity right?"to CX about 5 times but did he give a direct answer?He said it was a stupid question and u think likewise,don't u?
Heng,
U finally rebut my argument.Your msg is full of subjective judgemental words or comments.Readers can judge themselves whether it is so.So i think u are unable to rebut my argument.But u are better than CX in that u don't anyhow argue or insult. -
yeah man! yo lets get it on!Originally posted by greengoblin:fark lah...just have sex and be happy !!!! -
Originally posted by PRP:
I couldn't post msg here because my internet explorer was faulty due to someone (i believe not CX) sent some bug to my computer.He wanted to prevent me from speaking on this topic.I've said if anyone dislike my msg,he can don't read my msg again just as i didn't read CX's msg recently because he hurled many insulting words on me.But he did in a way that prevented me from using the internet and speaking to others.
if it was me, i WILL be boasting about it and you WILL know...He should be a homo or bisexual person.However i don't mean heterosexual person wouldn't do such a thing.
"Austraian PM is to amend the law to define marriage as heterosexual union." --- Straits Times, 29 May 2004
sue for defamation? since when LKY become australian PM???
Is Austraila PM narrow-minded and bigoted?Pls be forewarned, don't make unsubstanciated allegations because he may sue u for defamation.
that place IS narrow minded and bigoted. u're talking about the same pple who will happily turn away refugees in leaking ships and refuse to let them land...
u're talking the same pple who lock those who manage to land in camps located in the desert!
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CX,
You are wrong to say Austrialia society is narrow-minded & bigoted just because of some govt policies.
Westerners are most liberal about sex.Probably some of our ppl here copy their sexual values & lifestyles.Australia PM wants to amend the law to define marriage as heterosexual union.By doing so,homosexual ppl would probably not like it.Why would he want to do it?Readers, pls think!
Siggy Heng,
Since u said "siggy" was not an insulting word,may i call you "Siggy Heng"?
I would answer your questions after u had answered my question "Is Australia PM narrow-minded?" -
i got tired of all this fighting and went off for a while , and after a whole bloody month you guys are still going at it?
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hey i want to change my status to homosexual..
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Originally posted by PRP:
OH? u have another word for policies that infringes human rights, disregards compassion and rooted in the selfish interests of politicians to get re-elected?
CX,
You are wrong to say Austrialia society is narrow-minded & bigoted just because of some govt policies.
so enlighten me... what do you call them?
i do not judge a society by the actions of their government. by at the same time, pple get the governments they deserve since they do get to vote.Westerners are most liberal about sex.Probably some of our ppl here copy their sexual values & lifestyles.
bollocks... thats like saying all asian men are short and all asian women have small feet.
and i object to what u term "westerners". europe is more liberal than america in issues regarding sexual norms. but if u went down to the "Bible Belt" in the states, u'll be shocked at how conservative they are.
at the same time, the state of Massachusetts has legalized same-sex marriages.
u just displayed an outright ignorance of "western" societies. u must've been watching too much t.v.
and what makes u think that ASIAN societies ALWAYS had a conservative attitude towards sexual norms?
when white men first set foot here in southeast asia, one of their observation was that the women had a great deal of sexual autonomy.
"norms" are socially defined. there is nothing "natural" about them. certain worldviews exist today not because they were "right", but because they were IMPOSED...
it does not mean that it was ALWAYS like that, it does not mean that this new "norm" is "better" and it does not mean that norms cannot change.Australia PM wants to amend the law to define marriage as heterosexual union.By doing so,homosexual ppl would probably not like it.Why would he want to do it?Readers, pls think!
because he wants to win votes from ignorant, conservative voters who outnumbers gay voters? .
politicians makes decisions based on raw numbers; polls, surveys, probabilities... not because certain decisions are more "correct" than others. it is only "correct" insofar as it is popular. THAT's politics for u. -
wahahaha... sure. u may call me that but now i can call u either blind or idiot. DID u ever read carefully my post in which i used siggy? here let me show u again:Originally posted by PRP:CX,
You are wrong to say Austrialia society is narrow-minded & bigoted just because of some govt policies.
Westerners are most liberal about sex.Probably some of our ppl here copy their sexual values & lifestyles.Australia PM wants to amend the law to define marriage as heterosexual union.By doing so,homosexual ppl would probably not like it.Why would he want to do it?Readers, pls think!
Siggy Heng,
Since u said "siggy" was not an insulting word,may i call you "Siggy Heng"?
I would answer your questions after u had answered my question "Is Australia PM narrow-minded?"
TRANSLATION: CX: JUST OCCURED TO ME... PRP'S SIGGY IS A SORT OF IRONYOriginally posted by HENG@:CX: just occured to me... PRP's siggy is a sort of irony...
now... did i say u are a siggy? no i said YOUR siggy. YOUR means something belonging to u, it does not me 'you're'. geddit? nowadays the english standard has dropped so much that basic english is not understood anymore? sad
so I said your siggy, meaning: "PRP's signature". I did not say "siggy PRP". dun u think trying to justify your stupid mistake by using it in this context makes u seem all the more a fool? please. either bother to read carefully, or go get some eyedrops, or go get a brain transplant.
and yes I do think the australian PM is narrow minded. what if one day gays took over the world and judged that being straight is "wrong", how would YOU feel then? -
CX, perhaps he has never heard of the Kama Sutra :p Maybe he needs to do some research into the Japanese and perhaps Tang Dynasty cultures thenOriginally posted by CX:and what makes u think that ASIAN societies ALWAYS had a conservative attitude towards sexual norms? -
Perhaps you should read into my statement too...that there is no universal morality. What you deem is correct may not be in others eyes.Originally posted by PRP:Greengoblin,
I can accept homosexuals as human beings.But it doesn't mean one shouldn't find out whether homosex is right or not.Perhaps u would like to read more of my previous msg to understnad my stand.
Gosh...I am going back to talk to my dog...at least he has a better understanding of the English Language....
CX and Heng Both of you have great stamina...