Poly Grad to have at least $1450??
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Juz heard from sum1 tat gov. is introducing new law for employer to giv at least $1450 to poly grad. issit true?
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??? so little arh?Originally posted by spectnr1:Juz heard from sum1 tat gov. is introducing new law for employer to giv at least $1450 to poly grad. issit true?
Me N level get $135 to $180 per day leh. Why always hear what the garment say? -
tt`s respectable....Originally posted by Joshua1975:??? so little arh?
Me N level get $135 to $180 per day leh. Why always hear what the garment say?
wat u do for a living?? -
I dun think this is a good idea.
Infact it will make employer think twice about hiring poly grads if the pay is not market-fixed.
Example: If I am an employer, considering the current job market situation, I mind as well add few more hundred bucks to make it 1700 then I got a degree holder,etc ,etc. -
Even if it is true, it won't work. They will probably hire degree holders at a diploma holder's pay. Its what they are doing now anyway. Theres too many degree holders around rite now.
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I don't think that will be effective.. I will be a poly grad in the working world too, but I believe this will go against me instead. Sad.
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Hey gaoyue. I also poly grad. Been looking for a job for 4 whole months already! I tell you its a fact. Been to many interviews. They will give poly jobs to a degree holder. Come on. Now that jobs are few, degree holders will also go apply for poly jobs. Better network now while you still can to play safe.
Oh well look on the bright side. If they keep this up, maybe we will end up like Denmark. Degree holder sweep floor in 10 years down the road. Thats better, continue to steal our jobs lor. Continue to spoil the market lor. Next time their MBA sons and daughters can get to sweep floors. Cool rite. All die together. -
lolOriginally posted by Xenthar:Hey gaoyue. I also poly grad. Been looking for a job for 4 whole months already! I tell you its a fact. Been to many interviews. They will give poly jobs to a degree holder. Come on. Now that jobs are few, degree holders will also go apply for poly jobs. Better network now while you still can to play safe.
Oh well look on the bright side. If they keep this up, maybe we will end up like Denmark. Degree holder sweep floor in 10 years down the road. Thats better, continue to steal our jobs lor. Continue to spoil the market lor. Next time their MBA sons and daughters can get to sweep floors. Cool rite. All die together. -
Not necessary true. Poly jobs are still given to diploma holders but not poly fresh grad. Companies are more into hiring those experienced.Originally posted by Xenthar:Hey gaoyue. I also poly grad. Been looking for a job for 4 whole months already! I tell you its a fact. Been to many interviews. They will give poly jobs to a degree holder. Come on. Now that jobs are few, degree holders will also go apply for poly jobs. Better network now while you still can to play safe. -
It is not the diploma holders that are affected by the poor economy but degree holders too. The job market is flooded with all sort of people from those with tons of experiences to those fresh out from school. Being in the recruitment business I cannot deny the fact that companies are looking for people that are cheap and good. And these are usually those people with 1-2 years working experiences. But ultimately it is not the qualification that you have that matters but your ability to contribute to the organisation.Originally posted by Xenthar:Hey gaoyue. I also poly grad. Been looking for a job for 4 whole months already! I tell you its a fact. Been to many interviews. They will give poly jobs to a degree holder. Come on. Now that jobs are few, degree holders will also go apply for poly jobs. Better network now while you still can to play safe.
Oh well look on the bright side. If they keep this up, maybe we will end up like Denmark. Degree holder sweep floor in 10 years down the road. Thats better, continue to steal our jobs lor. Continue to spoil the market lor. Next time their MBA sons and daughters can get to sweep floors. Cool rite. All die together.
The problem with many graduates (poly or degree holders) is that they dun know what they want and what they can contribute. They simply apply for any jobs available. I do understand the market is bad, but employers want people who can help their organisation to grow. So when going for interviews, remember to go with a clear knowledge of what you can give and your skills, because this is your only time to impress.
How much you are paid usually depends on your worth. Usually they will pay you slightly lesser than market value when you first start working. Until you prove your abilities then they will then increase your salary after probation. -
Originally posted by creepycrawlie:
I met one which pays me the right price.
It is not the diploma holders that are affected by the poor economy but degree holders too. The job market is flooded with all sort of people from those with tons of experiences to those fresh out from school. Being in the recruitment business I cannot deny the fact that companies are looking for people that are cheap and good.And these are usually those people with 1-2 years working experiences. But ultimately it is not the qualification that you have that matters but your ability to contribute to the organisation.
Agree fully. This is very important criteria now, especially for Medium & Small Enterprise. As far as I know, only MNC or GLC are willingly to accept fresh with no experience but got potential. These big guys got the resouces.The problem with many graduates (poly or degree holders) is that they dun know what they want and what they can contribute. They simply apply for any jobs available. I do understand the market is bad, but employers want people who can help their organisation to grow. So when going for interviews, remember to go with a clear knowledge of what you can give and your skills, because this is your only time to impress.
Very true.How much you are paid usually depends on your worth. Usually they will pay you slightly lesser than market value when you first start working. Until you prove your abilities then they will then increase your salary after probation.
I think my company pays me the right price.
creepycrawlie, you are very experienced in your job!
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tks, that's nothing, i am new to the job next year after i get 1 level up to level 2 it will be more. btw it oni have 3 level to go. why not check it out here www.irata.org job scope to wide, can be anything.Originally posted by BaByBoY:tt`s respectable....
wat u do for a living?? -
where got so good lobang?
i oso wannt be poly grad! -
Where u heard this crap fr??
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No no no, I think abt it and it come to me that the garment is indirectly asking the degree to get $1450 and the poly grad can than become cleaner sup getting $1300.Originally posted by spectnr1:Juz heard from sum1 tat gov. is introducing new law for employer to giv at least $1450 to poly grad. issit true?
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Wah...U do wat one? High pay leh..Originally posted by Joshua1975:??? so little arh?
Me N level get $135 to $180 per day leh. Why always hear what the garment say?
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check 3 or 4 post up... i just type there.Originally posted by Troy437:Wah...U do wat one? High pay leh.. 
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Originally posted by creepycrawlie:
The logic is simple. If you just ORD in this period and do not have a degree. Good luck liao
It is not the diploma holders that are affected by the poor economy but degree holders too. The job market is flooded with all sort of people from those with [b]tons of experiences to those fresh out from school. Being in the recruitment business I cannot deny the fact that companies are looking for people that are cheap and good. And these are usually those people with 1-2 years working experiences. But ultimately it is not the qualification that you have that matters but your ability to contribute to the organisation.
The problem with many graduates (poly or degree holders) is that they dun know what they want and what they can contribute. They simply apply for any jobs available. I do understand the market is bad, but employers want people who can help their organisation to grow. So when going for interviews, remember to go with a clear knowledge of what you can give and your skills, because this is your only time to impress.
How much you are paid usually depends on your worth. Usually they will pay you slightly lesser than market value when you first start working. Until you prove your abilities then they will then increase your salary after probation.
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Meanining just ORD got big problem liao lor
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actually it's not true that jobs are always given to degree holders than diploma holders, it all depends on the nature of the work...
a degree holder can definitely do a job better than a poly grad, but in times where the economy is good, she sure pack-bag-and-go to find a better and high-salary job. if the company have the mindset that hiring degree holders are better than hiring diploma holders, than they can expect a high staff turnover rate...
for example: if u hire someone with MBA as an marketing exec at a SME, when times are good, and other MNC need these degree holders, do you tink they will stay or quit for the MNC job? it's human nature to climb higher and higher, "ren wang gao chu pa"...
in this case, the SME would have to take time and resources to find another person to replace this MBA holder, is it a loss or a gain? -
It's almost impossible for governments to state out in the law the minimum amount companies have to pay the employee.
It just doesn't make any economic sense.
Companies would then outsource instead. Besides, the country will always want the companies to do well, which in turns boost the economy. -
Originally posted by shawnsh:
The think is I don't think the SME cares right now. So many degree holders so like typical singaporean. You got I also want
actually it's not true that jobs are always given to degree holders than diploma holders, it all depends on the nature of the work...
a degree holder can definitely do a job better than a poly grad, but in times where the economy is good, she sure pack-bag-and-go to find a better and high-salary job. if the company have the mindset that hiring degree holders are better than hiring diploma holders, than they can expect a high staff turnover rate...
for example: if u hire someone with MBA as an marketing exec at a SME, when times are good, and other MNC need these degree holders, do you tink they will stay or quit for the MNC job? it's human nature to climb higher and higher, "ren wang gao chu pa"...
in this case, [b]the SME would have to take time and resources to find another person to replace this MBA holder, is it a loss or a gain?[/b] -
huh....this new was heard from sum1...jus checking out whether it is true. I myself as a poly grad who juz started working is getting around this price but the important thing to get more $$$ is to prove yr capability. For yr info, some uncle & auntie selling veggie or fish in wet market living condo & driving Mercs.
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ya ya ya...... selling veggie lar, fish lar, carrot cake lar, taxi or bus driver lar, some do really live in condo, some in bungalow and driving Benz... but that is their time leh, where things are cheapOriginally posted by spectnr1:huh....this new was heard from sum1...jus checking out whether it is true. I myself as a poly grad who juz started working is getting around this price but the important thing to get more $$$ is to prove yr capability. For yr info, some uncle & auntie selling veggie or fish in wet market living condo & driving Mercs. -
I do not believe that the amount mentioned $1450 can be fixed. When one graduate from a poly, it depends on the type of diploma you are getting to command a certain salary range.
A person specialising in IT, Business or Engineering have their own starting salary range and there is a salary cap too unless experience and other factors come to play. It depends on how high you can climb up the ranking level and how high the company's willing to let you climb.