China has shown its true colours!
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Why was China kept its silence before the completion of Suchou Industrial Park?There were many visits by our senior officers to Taiwan during and prior to the completion and handover of Suchou Industrial Park!
Most probably they did not want to kill the golden goose that laid the golden eggs then. Now that billions have been invested over there, they can afford to show more of its true colours! -
genius of the day!!!!Originally posted by Heartlander:elementary, my dear watson.
Most probably they did not want to kill the golden goose that laid the golden eggs then. Now that billions have been invested over there, they can afford to show more of its true colours!
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The truth is when we had the majority of shares in SIP, it was never making money and it only became profitable after the chinese became majority shareholders. Come to think of it, I can't recall any successful overseas venture which involves our government.
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Me think alike.Originally posted by Blueray:Come to think of it, I can't recall any successful overseas venture which involves our government.
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Originally posted by Blueray:The truth is when we had the majority of shares in SIP, it was never making money and it only became profitable after the chinese became majority shareholders. Come to think of it, I can't recall any successful overseas venture which involves our government.
When they are oversea they still think they are in Singapore. -
I believe China is testing Singapore's upcoming (12 Aug) PM.
Also the Beijing leadship maybe showing its displeasure that this upcoming
Singapore PM is had gone to Taiwan 1st instead of Beijing.
Made worst when the pro-independence folks in ROC and its media gave huge
coverage on the "private" visit.
China know LKY's position as statement in Asia, but for junior Lee is still an
untested ground. Beijing wanna see how far she can push. Same goes to
Malaysia when China issued similar warnings when dealing with ROC.
Remember Malaysia's new PM and his gov is going to the poll late this yr.
Singapore, eventhough its small, is not just another "Red Dot". China is
seeking to expand her influence around Asia and any superpower-wanabe
certainly won't miss this spot.
But this is certainly no way to behave when u wanna build allies and friends. -
does this mean we have to support LHL no matter what?
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i dont encourage to support blindly..but LHL have prove to lead singapore hardest day..(althought now still abit hard). but if one fine day he turn to destroy our believe..we will overturn them.Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:does this mean we have to support LHL no matter what?
even they end up win..but i at least make my vote to disagreed him. -
if u read what they(the china media,china newspaper and internet webby)have say abt singapore from S.A.R period. u long ago should know they are damn colourful.Originally posted by Heartlander:Why was China kept its silence before the completion of Suchou Industrial Park?There were many visits by our senior officers to Taiwan during and prior to the completion and handover of Suchou Industrial Park!
Most probably they did not want to kill the golden goose that laid the golden eggs then. Now that billions have been invested over there, they can afford to show more of its true colours!
if they a big lan jiao. call them to condemn taiwan artist F4 , 5566,SHE and JAY from going china to earn their money and pay tax to taiwan to buy weapon! -
many sporean went to china to invest but only to find that it was not as beautiful as what it hope to be.
we hv seen many beautiful examples of sporean making it big in china, but what about the failure? Some friends once told that their company investment in china is a flop but cant pull out. So many legal issues to handle. Sack people must go thru lawyers, must give reasons, employees can sue employers back, employee and employer lawyers both gang up and delay trials, so they can earn more with dealyed trials.
if these are all true, then we sporean shd just stay put, or just divest to msia or indonesia. at least we "die" knowing what went wrong.
this china issue is really what the cantonese say,"fan jun ju dou zuo hei si",
meaning flip the pig belly, you find shit. -
Hmmm... China has show colours not oni now, long ago they had wat. Just that our GOV dun want to admit oni.
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only now??
one word: Tibet -
Last time Suzhou industrial which was 60% owned by singapore kana compeitition..Singapore protest..but NOTHING happen and we can't interfere..
and its owned by SG oso..
SG territory..we protest they do nothing!
now its thier own "china" territory..so they protest..guess what will happen?
Singapore wun lose much la!
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Oh my god,you have hitted the blue-eyed,i think that is exactly why those government-linked companies always suffered heavy losses when they go other countries n invest.......But i think after a number of blows,they are now more cautious when investing other countries.Originally posted by Joshua1975:
When they are oversea they still think they are in Singapore. -
agreed.Originally posted by Blueray:The truth is when we had the majority of shares in SIP, it was never making money and it only became profitable after the chinese became majority shareholders. Come to think of it, I can't recall any successful overseas venture which involves our government. -
Jumping from one hell hole to anotherOriginally posted by daystar_70:many sporean went to china to invest but only to find that it was not as beautiful as what it hope to be.
we hv seen many beautiful examples of sporean making it big in china, but what about the failure? Some friends once told that their company investment in china is a flop but cant pull out. So many legal issues to handle. Sack people must go thru lawyers, must give reasons, employees can sue employers back, employee and employer lawyers both gang up and delay trials, so they can earn more with dealyed trials.
if these are all true, then we sporean shd just stay put, or just divest to msia or indonesia. at least we "die" knowing what went wrong.
this china issue is really what the cantonese say,"fan jun ju dou zuo hei si",
meaning flip the pig belly, you find shit.
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Would u give money to a potential aggressor?
lol only idiots would do that...and we're not =D -
huh? then what about suzhou?Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:Would u give money to a potential aggressor?
lol only idiots would do that...and we're not =D -
i think LHL trying to let singaporean see china true colour..
maybe he find-out too many singaporean slowly turn blindly pro-china nowaday (i feel that) keep telling other "wo shi zhong guo ren"
maybe he worry singaporean chinese too close to china.
LHL try to let this thing to grow..between singaporean and chinaman.
to let those people(pro-china singaporean) know that there are different between singapore and china.
just like trying to tell singapore malay to keep themself different with the malaysia malay.
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I'm sure playing chess using other people's chessboard is definitely an unfair game, especially when the chess pieces are set by them.
Its the same in many real business environment, what the players can do is still to make the best out of the situation. And learn how to exit cleanly. How to lose this game with pride and then play another game.
Hopefully this time round , we set the chess pieces on our chessboard, and invite our last host to play.
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Sou Zhou is one.
Taiwan visit is another.
Next move is yours.
Foreign Policy got to have direction.
It is one big chest game. -
Originally posted by cooleo:Jumping from one hell hole to another
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One of Comfort-Delgro's director has been telling its investors in the AGM that its China venture has not been making any money so far, yet it is pouring more money into China!Are they investing for the sake of the name of Singapore or for the benefit of its shareholders????? It is hard to believe that most Chinese drivers drove the rental taxi back to the province or thier"kampong" without trace, yet Comfort-Delgro kept pouring in money for more investment, using those profit they raked in from Singapore and "invest' it like what the Santa Claus did to entertain its clients!Gardenia of QAF was smarter years ago, they bowed out when they saw something was amissed and never to return to the shark infested water!
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i've heard stories of sporeans opening supermarkets there but had to bow out due to the fact that more things get stolen then soldOriginally posted by Heartlander:One of Comfort-Delgro's director has been telling its investors in the AGM that its China venture has not been making any money so far, yet it is pouring more money into China!Are they investing for the sake of the name of Singapore or for the benefit of its shareholders????? It is hard to believe that most Chinese drivers drove the rental taxi back to the province or thier"kampong" without trace, yet Comfort-Delgro kept pouring in money for more investment, using those profit they raked in from Singapore and "invest' it like what the Santa Claus did to entertain its clients!Gardenia of QAF was smarter years ago, they bowed out when they saw something was amissed and never to return to the shark infested water!
and even if you knew that the person in front of you is not going to pay for what he\she has taken
you still can't do anything about it
but no comfirmation on whether the story's true or not though the teller assured me that its true
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I have been wondering about this question? What have we gained so far from LHL's visit?Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:does this mean we have to support LHL no matter what?
To LHL, it is better to visit Taiwan before he became PM, but on the other side, Taiwan, China and US are conducting major war games in the area, is that a good time to visit Taiwan, the US 7th fleet commander or China?? If you know two ganster parties are preparing for war in Geylang like before (just example), do you want to take a bus there, just to show you have the right of Singaporean to visit any part of Singapore??
Of course Singapore is a sovereign country but does LHL think he should also visit Yasser Arafat in the west bank before he becomes PM?
What exactly is the interest of Singapore in this instance? I would agree if Teo Chee Hian went to talk about the Starlight operation, but since when LHL has any friends in Taiwan?