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• Stevenson101

  21 Jul 04, 15:02

  
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• oldbreadstinks

  22 Jul 04, 00:12

  translation please, i can't read arabic
• NeonTetra

  22 Jul 04, 00:15

  change VIEW to simplified chinese...maybe can see something
• Joshua1975

  22 Jul 04, 00:37

  give the link better.... see FxxxOff
• oldbreadstinks

  22 Jul 04, 00:47

  changed view to simplified chinese but more then half is still arabic but from what i see i think its saying something about the canal in thailand threating sg and something about a gf and going against china?
  
  i think better give us the link
• Qkool

  22 Jul 04, 00:49

  Originally posted by Joshua1975:

  give the link better.... see FxxxOff

  dont know better..those are post from china military forum(bbs) if u see more...no matter how well the PRC had did.......meaningless..
  
  this the first page lah...
  
  http://bbs.china.com/military/bbs.jsp
  
  http://bbs.china.com/military/html/board_57_post/600313/2433333.html
  
  
• oldbreadstinks

  22 Jul 04, 01:51

  read though , my first thoughts were,WTF, if thats the way they want it then so be it, i don't see why its worng for me to say that i'm a sporean instead of a Zhong guo ren
  to me ZGR refers to people from china, not chinese,
  this is not china , even if it is , i have the right not to speak chinese, its not anyone's Fu*king business what language i want to speak
  
  
• the Bear

  22 Jul 04, 01:57

  uhh... i'm too damned lazy to decode and read it...
  
  i'll say this: i'm not and never ever will be a Zhong Guo Ren.. coz i ain't from PRC... my folks ain't from PRC either... my grandmothers were but my grandfathers were 1st generation born in singapore!
  
  so, there.. i'm Ethnic Chinese but i am not and never was from PRC..
• weeeeeee.....

  22 Jul 04, 03:30

  well, this chinese writer carries a lot of arrogance in his essay, and i dunno how true it was.
  
  take from his essay abt michael fay who was awarded 6 strokes of rotan by s'pore law for vandalising private vehicles. president bill clinton plead on his behalf, but s'pore was very persistent in their verdict. it has made a big hoo-ha ard the world that even s'pore also dare not to give US face. the chinese were one of the countries who had kow-towed to s'pore for its guts. but the writer later accuses that nobody knows what's happening under the table and who knows the cane was not awarded at all. this is very baseless.
  
  from what i know, the 6 strokes of rotan was reduced to 4 strokes, but the execution was still carried out.
  
  another part from his essay that LKY visited deng xiaoping in 1978, while they gave each other a greeting hug, deng xiaoping said "we're all chinese", but LKY replied, "no, i'm a s'porean". i think this is very baseless also.
  
  however, i wud say there r part of his essay which is very true. it's abt the younger generations of s'poreans who know very little of chinese language and its culture. though our nationality is different, i.e. chinese vs s'porean, but our race is still of a chinese descent.
  
  and all along, i have already find it a shame that there's a large number of s'porean chinese who doesnt know or do not wanna speak chinese. worse thing is, i've known a s'porean chinese girl who despises her own race, regards ppl who speak chinese very "cheena" or low-class, says chinese food is yucky, etc.
  
  no matter how high she was educated, how well she can speak english, how intelligent she is, she doesnt have my respect.
  
  not say i blindly follow s'pore govt encouragement or what... all along, i've been always looking good in china, and have already seen that china will be the next superpower in 10 - 20 yrs time. by then, large part of the asian economy will be easily influenced by china, and it's gonna be inevitable that we will see lots of china investment in s'pore.
  
  and to survive in s'pore, our younger generation can no longer depend on PAP, but the chinese.
• [Sanctuary]

  22 Jul 04, 05:22

  Sad to say , but Singaporeans must live up to our own standards and nurture our own leaders like our previous generation of leaders have did to themselves.
  
  These standards in this new decade is no longer measured by comparing with our own neighbours. This is a new decade whereby information and publications are so easily accessed (which is why we can all read what is written here).
  
  Our new generation must upgrade themselves , leaders , politicians , workers, soldiers , whichever profession, even toilet cleaners(now they use anti-sars cleaning agents?), have to compete with the advancement of technology of the world.
  
  It's not what is present that we can change, but if we are willing to do everything with our next generation in mind then we can build a better community for the future. Its better to be said than done they say, but I've experienced these basic conflicts when our own people laments whose doing all the decisions , and for who?
  
  What I would ask is what can I contribute for my next generation of leaders? The exposure? The Challenge? The environment to think in? Or the Reality they have to face? Or the training and skills i already have learnt and pass on the curiosity for my younger leaders to explore, then improve on the technology?
  
  
• the.raven

  22 Jul 04, 05:51

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• Qkool

  22 Jul 04, 06:01

  Originally posted by [Sanctuary]:

  Sad to say , but Singaporeans must live up to our own standards and nurture our own leaders like our previous generation of leaders have did to themselves.
  
  These standards in this new decade is no longer measured by comparing with our own neighbours. This is a new decade whereby information and publications are so easily accessed (which is why we can all read what is written here).
  
  Our new generation must upgrade themselves , leaders , politicians , workers, soldiers , whichever profession, even toilet cleaners(now they use anti-sars cleaning agents?), have to compete with the advancement of technology of the world.
  
  It's not what is present that we can change, but if we are willing to do everything with our next generation in mind then we can build a better community for the future. Its better to be said than done they say, but I've experienced these basic conflicts when our own people laments whose doing all the decisions , and for who?
  
  What I would ask is what can I contribute for my next generation of leaders? The exposure? The Challenge? The environment to think in? Or the Reality they have to face? Or the training and skills i already have learnt and pass on the curiosity for my younger leaders to explore, then improve on the technology?
  
  

  i proud to have you as fellow singaporean..
  
  only if we don't give up ourself and we will uphold our pride
  must be sensible and see far..
  
  39 year ago..we can make it..so do the new decade.
  
  thank you to remind me, that singapore govt alway ask us to improve ourself.
  dont lose out in the new decade.. i was stupid to waste so much time for those discussion and fighting against our view with Chinamans' view..
  
  forget the main entertainment in sgForum is to enjoy myself...
  
  no point uphold our pride with meaningless WORDs from posting..
  
  hope singapore forever "zi qiang bu xi" (dont know how to express in english)
  
  
• Parka

  22 Jul 04, 08:33

  Woah!! Ancient words!!
• SibeiSuayKia

  22 Jul 04, 10:41

  LOL who is the chinese gal who abandoned thier own culture??
  ask her to adopt american cultures lor! sad to see her like that..
  lol if she really feel yucks then i think she should bleach her skin
  cuz ur skin color is still there!
  
  lol ...
  China and TW if u look is the most suitable country for us to go to..in the future..
  
  but a full scale conflict will be there
• woodRat

  22 Jul 04, 11:04

  see the chinese word.. wan to faint le.. long time dint see liaO..haha....