A Chinese View over the situation, A story from my side
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democratic??? are you serious???Originally posted by tspg:Singapore is a democratic country, each citizen has the right to cast a vote during the elections. We do it with our hands by the way, not with our foot.
If you are not able to keep a cool head and listen to opinions different from your own and had to resort to using such strong language, I suggest that you leave this forum.
you do not the physical punishment used in singapore? is that kind of kind of thing which can be done in a "democratic" country??
and also you are letting me off the forum?? is it out of the spirit of democracy?? you even have got a clue about demorcracy. -
once again another sweeping statementOriginally posted by j28w32:you are not a bloody joker, are you?? vote??? with your foot?
PS is my english too difficult?? -
what a sunny day..Originally posted by j28w32:that bloody son of previous PM taking the office is because you or majority of singaporeans cast their votes on him?? or maybe he is the only person you all can vote on. Keep cool when you are arguing about this issue.
i wonder if your farking China PM showered for the month??
maybe your asSh0le president is sleepin already
what if i call PRC people stupid??
how do you feel about the above statements??
if u don like it don use it on other people...
but i`m more than sure you`ll agree to it since u like this style
once again is my english too difficult for you?? -
I think you are trying to say that we are uncivilise because we have caning and the death penalty. I would say thats barbaric and uncivilise, but necessary for law and order. The criminals are punished that way for the good of the society as a whole.Originally posted by j28w32:democratic??? are you serious???
you do not the physical punishment used in singapore? is that kind of kind of thing which can be done in a "democratic" country??
and also you are letting me off the forum?? is it out of the spirit of democracy?? you even have got a clue about demorcracy.
As for you leaving the forums, if the majority of the forummers think so because your behavior is unreasonable, then it is democratic.
So whats your opinion of Tainanmem ? I'm looking forward to hearing your opinions on that. -
i`ll second thatOriginally posted by tspg:Singapore is a democratic country, each citizen has the right to cast a vote during the elections. We do it with our hands by the way, not with our foot.
If you are not able to keep a cool head and listen to opinions different from your own and had to resort to using such strong language, I suggest that you leave this forum.
but please make it easier for highly challenged people to understand
i bet they`ll have difficulties absorbing the gist of the post
let me make it easier just in case they don understand
if you`re not happy here, please `go away`
once again is my english too difficult?? -
i suggest you don waste ur timeOriginally posted by tspg:So whats your opinion of Tainanmem ? I'm looking forward to hearing your opinions on that.
wat makes u tink he knows abt the event in the 1st place... -
for sure singapore becomes "democratic" now.. as you men can wear long hair and can sell chewing gums legally.. what a joke!!Originally posted by tspg:I think you are trying to say that we are uncivilise because we have caning and the death penalty. I would say thats barbaric and uncivilise, but necessary for law and order. The criminals are punished that way for the good of the society as a whole.
As for you leaving the forums, if the majority of the forummers think so because your behavior is unreasonable, then it is democratic.
So whats your opinion of Tainanmem ? I'm looking forward to hearing your opinions on that. -
hei,, i am not saying singapore is uncilivized at all.. you just make it up..Originally posted by tspg:I think you are trying to say that we are uncivilise because we have caning and the death penalty. I would say thats barbaric and uncivilise, but necessary for law and order. The criminals are punished that way for the good of the society as a whole.
As for you leaving the forums, if the majority of the forummers think so because your behavior is unreasonable, then it is democratic.
So whats your opinion of Tainanmem ? I'm looking forward to hearing your opinions on that.
but if you claime singapore to be democratic country.. that sounds really funny.. maybe you have never experienced sth called democracy.. but one thing i can tell you for sure,, it is not what is going on in singapore.. -
mate, the only thing i am expecting is to get rid of those fancy thing in your comments.. nothing else..Originally posted by BaByBoY:once again another sweeping statement
PS is my english too difficult??
to be honest, i have never read through what you have put in there... no offence.. indeed.
just telling you the truth, if you reckon that is offensive.. what i am asking not only using simple english or plain english, but also get rig of those fancy thing. or some local stuff.. as i am not local.. for sure... -
and you are using a lot of filthy language.. is the normal language good enough for you to express yourself?? and you blame me that i am using "strong language"? you would not mind saying your brian is stuffed in this situation, wouldn't u?Originally posted by BaByBoY:what a sunny day..
i wonder if your farking China PM showered for the month??
maybe your asSh0le president is sleepin already
what if i call PRC people stupid??
how do you feel about the above statements??
if u don like it don use it on other people...
but i`m more than sure you`ll agree to it since u like this style
once again is my english too difficult for you?? -
mate,, you are doing well... your english is getting better, significantly..Originally posted by BaByBoY:i`ll second that
but please make it easier for highly challenged people to understand
i bet they`ll have difficulties absorbing the gist of the post
let me make it easier just in case they don understand
if you`re not happy here, please `go away`
once again is my english too difficult?? -
i can understand why you never wanted `to read`Originally posted by j28w32:mate, the only thing i am expecting is to get rid of those fancy thing in your comments.. nothing else..
to be honest, i have never read through what you have put in there... no offence.. indeed.
just telling you the truth, if you reckon that is offensive.. what i am asking not only using simple english or plain english, but also get rig of those fancy thing. or some local stuff.. as i am not local.. for sure...
it`s a rather lame excuse to not answer my questions
but afterall, the word `excuse` does serve it purpose -
are you denying that u started the filthy language 1st??Originally posted by j28w32:and you are using a lot of filthy language.. is the normal language good enough for you to express yourself?? and you blame me that i am using "strong language"? you would not mind saying your brian is stuffed in this situation, wouldn't u?
are you??
ps is this too difficult to read also??? -
that because i`m using simpler wordsOriginally posted by j28w32:mate,, you are doing well... your english is getting better, significantly..
all for you -
Therefore I take it that you indirectly support the June 4 incident because you are not in support if anyone who speaks up about that?I respect Wang Dan.he had the vision to lead the students in demanding more transparency and accountability from the government.Where is he now?In self-imposed exile in US, working as a Professor in Harvard.Is this the kind of government that you silently back?Someone with vision is ignored and perscuted?My country may not be a very free nation and public protest is nearly non-existent due to certain historical reasons and the fact that the people who went through the 60s' riots are still alive, but at least we do not send in tanks to crush and roll over our own countrymen.When you look at the unnamed and unarmed demonstrator being crushed by a tank, it only shows to the world that your government is a ruthless and childish one.One that is thin-skinned and fears the people.Originally posted by yak32:Well, u r talking about two issues.
First, he disclosed the SARS in China, he is therefore an hero. And i give full
respect to him without hesitation.
Second, he went beyond lines drawn by China goverment by criticising June 4.
There are some lines in China's politics. Some can be compromised and some
shall never be. Just like Singapore, or i can say that it is worse in Singapore.
At least we can protest, or criticising goverment in China... can you?
There may be similar parallels in the political climate but since your then politburo decided to roll the tanks in and send in your special forces to surround Tiananmen Square and fire on unarmed fellow Chinese who only wish to be heard and have a say in their future, your politicians have lost that right to criticise others.I believe that not all PRC citizens are belligerent and most(esp.the educated ones) realise the slippery slope China will fall down if it's led on this path of aggrandization and arrogance. -
what`s your problem with long hair??Originally posted by j28w32:for sure singapore becomes "democratic" now.. as you men can wear long hair and can sell chewing gums legally.. what a joke!!
please keep to the topic??
what`s banning of chewing gum got to do w being not `democratic` enough
the law is made out by members of the Singapore parliment
they only came out with that law due to her people`s request
you have a problem with that?? -
Maybe u need to type in chinese characters, so he will understand for sure.Originally posted by BaByBoY:that because i`m using simpler words
all for you -
Therefore I take it that you indirectly support the June 4 incident because you are not in support if anyone who speaks up about that?I respect Wang Dan.he had the vision to lead the students in demanding more transparency and accountability from the government.Where is he now?In self-imposed exile in US, working as a Professor in Harvard.Is this the kind of government that you silently back?Someone with vision is ignored and perscuted?My country may not be a very free nation and public protest is nearly non-existent due to certain historical reasons and the fact that the people who went through the 60s' riots are still alive, but at least we do not send in tanks to crush and roll over our own countrymen.When you look at the unnamed and unarmed demonstrator being crushed by a tank, it only shows to the world that your government is a ruthless and childish one.One that is thin-skinned and fears the people.Originally posted by yak32:Well, u r talking about two issues.
First, he disclosed the SARS in China, he is therefore an hero. And i give full
respect to him without hesitation.
Second, he went beyond lines drawn by China goverment by criticising June 4.
There are some lines in China's politics. Some can be compromised and some
shall never be. Just like Singapore, or i can say that it is worse in Singapore.
At least we can protest, or criticising goverment in China... can you?
There may be similar parallels in the political climate but since your then politburo decided to roll the tanks in and send in your special forces to surround Tiananmen Square and fire on unarmed fellow Chinese who only wish to be heard and have a say in their future, your politicians have lost that right to criticise others.I believe that not all PRC citizens are belligerent and most(esp.the educated ones) realise the slippery slope China will fall down if it's led on this path of aggrandization and arrogance.
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Before we progress any further, I've to make my stand clear. I am not anti-China. As an oversea Chinese,
I am proud to see that China is able to sent a shuttle to space
I am proud to see the Chinese team play in the World Cup
I am proud when they win medals in the Olympics
What irks me is China's stand on Taiwanese issue. They threaten to use force all the time which I think is uncivilise and barbaric. If China is a democratic and developed Taiwan will be more than happy to reunite with China.
East and West Germany were two independent countries separated by ideology but were united eventually without bloodshed. I sincerly hope Taiwan and China can follow their example.
By the way you still have not comment on the Tainanmen issue.
......and you don't have to reply to every post if you don't want to. This is a forum for people to discuss their ideas not hurl insults at each other. -
...... and pornography is illegal too. If you are comparing Singapore to America then we may seem undemocratic.Originally posted by j28w32:for sure singapore becomes "democratic" now.. as you men can wear long hair and can sell chewing gums legally.. what a joke!!
I have no problems with my rights and the level of freedom I enjoy. -
seem those 2 china men are not here yet??
they`re still posting in the other thread...
dont they understand simple english to migrate over to this thread??? -
There is no law against long hair here.Originally posted by j28w32:for sure singapore becomes "democratic" now.. as you men can wear long hair and can sell chewing gums legally.. what a joke!!
I support the law on ban of chewing gum. I can do without it rather than to go back to the days where I can accidently touch or step on chewing gum that others left behind.
Democracy and banning of chewing gum do not contradict each other.
Do not force your ideas on to others. The first step to democracy is to respect others opinion. Do not insult others just because they disagree with you. You did that several times already if you have not notice.
P.S. It is a good habit to re-read your own post and ask yourself how would a netural person feel about those post. -
Everybody cool down .....
Please stick to the issues and refrain from making insult and personal attacks. -
Refer to this http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=86462
Please, no more personal attacks. One more time, and i will close this thread for good.
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Agreed with you on banning of chewing gum. An incident happened last time when i was attending a wedding dinner. Upon reaching there, i accidentally stepped onto a chewing gum. Must be from someone that smuggle it in coz chewing gum is banned in Singapore. Then with the chewing gum stuck on my shoe soles, and i went in the hotel with the sticky sound and feeling as i was walking inside. I think this got nothing to do with a country democracy.Originally posted by Qitai:There is no law against long hair here.
I support the law on ban of chewing gum. I can do without it rather than to go back to the days where I can accidently touch or step on chewing gum that others left behind.
Democracy and banning of chewing gum do not contradict each other.
Do not force your ideas on to others. The first step to democracy is to respect others opinion. Do not insult others just because they disagree with you. You did that several times already if you have not notice.
P.S. It is a good habit to re-read your own post and ask yourself how would a netural person feel about those post.