My Views, Your Views, Lets hear from your side of the story.
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you are the only person making the right judgement so far.. well done.Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:dunno but he seem pretty pissed -
the only thing i would like to say is I am a chinese.. pure chinese.. nothing i like putting before it like singapore chinese,, those bullshlt.Originally posted by HENG@:somehow i dun think j28w32 is from china. seems hes just someone out to make trouble. opinions? -
the only reason why i stir the shlt in here is that i really do not want to see one group of chinese put shlt on the other group. just because they are living in different countries..Originally posted by HENG@:somehow i dun think j28w32 is from china. seems hes just someone out to make trouble. opinions? -
no ,i do not think i'm the only person right here in matters of judgementOriginally posted by j28w32:you are the only person making the right judgement so far.. well done. -
furthermore,, i really hate this, right to my guts.Originally posted by j28w32:the only reason why i stir the shlt in here is that i really do not want to see one group of chinese put shlt on the other group. just because they are living in different countries.. -
so? your actions suggest the opositeOriginally posted by j28w32:furthermore,, i really hate this, right to my guts.
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not because what i have done, i am getting enemies.. the hostility is already there.. that is why sb keeps asking me where i am coming from.. they just try to put me into certain kind of group.. and then it will be clear if i am "friend" or "enemy".Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:so? your actions suggest the oposite
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ever wondered why you kept attracting such unwanted attention?Originally posted by j28w32:not because what i have done, i am getting enemies.. the hostility is already there.. that is why sb keeps asking me where i am coming from.. they just try to put me into certain kind of group.. and then it will be clear if i am "friend" or "enemy". -
honestly? im on the side of the China chinese, because I feel LHL is nothing but an idiot. but u really aren't doing your fellow countrymen a favour by making yourselves look bad. anyways, thats just some friendly advice. I still think LHL is an idiot.Originally posted by j28w32:not because what i have done, i am getting enemies.. the hostility is already there.. that is why sb keeps asking me where i am coming from.. they just try to put me into certain kind of group.. and then it will be clear if i am "friend" or "enemy". -
frankly, i have got no idea about that LHL, or that visit.. or who is the PM in china. but i think china is underdog in this matter.. and for me sympathy for undergod is a merit.Originally posted by HENG@:honestly? im on the side of the China chinese, because I feel LHL is nothing but an idiot. but u really aren't doing your fellow countrymen a favour by making yourselves look bad. anyways, thats just some friendly advice. I still think LHL is an idiot. -
what do you mean you think? he IS in idiot! if i were him i might as well have an official visit if its going to turn out like thisOriginally posted by HENG@:honestly? im on the side of the China chinese, because I feel LHL is nothing but an idiot. but u really aren't doing your fellow countrymen a favour by making yourselves look bad. anyways, thats just some friendly advice. I still think LHL is an idiot. -
i am a person liking fun,, joking.. that is all.. but do not like some chinese looking down on the other chinese... just them shlt all the time.. that is what i have done so far.. i think.Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:ever wondered why you kept attracting such unwanted attention? -
yeah well... thats true.Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:what do you mean you think? he IS in idiot! if i were him i might as well have an official visit if its going to turn out like this
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guess what?Originally posted by j28w32:i am a person liking fun,, joking.. that is all.. but do not like some chinese looking down on the other chinese... just them shlt all the time.. that is what i have done so far.. i think.
it was all started by one idiot ONLY
but now because of you and your "friends", you have more then half the population here in speaker's corner against china
instead all you have to do is to tell the guy he is an idiot and please be rational and please show some respect to citizens of china who are not involved in this fiasco but are upset over this unreasonable bashing
after this, even if you don't do something about him, someone else would -
heck u know... World War 1 was started by one idiot only too. Shit happens all the time.Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:guess what?
it was all started by one idiot ONLY
but now because of you and your "friends", you have more then half the population here in speaker's corner against china
instead all you have to do is to tell the guy he is an idiot and please be rational and please show some respect to citizens of china who are not involved in this fiasco but are upset over this unreasonable bashing
after this, even if you don't do something about him, someone else would -
u mean the austrian guy who got killed?Originally posted by HENG@:heck u know... World War 1 was started by one idiot only too. Shit happens all the time. -
i mean the serb who shot him. not that big deal really, but used by others for their own imperalist ideas.Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:u mean the austrian guy who got killed? -
j28w32 might had stirred up some animosity at other threads, but he did not start it in this thread so should not be blamed here. I notice that, immediately after he posted first time at this thread, someone started to ask "where from" question. This leads us to nowhere up till now.
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yeah but the arch duke or something didn't die in the first attemptOriginally posted by HENG@:i mean the serb who shot him. not that big deal really, but used by others for their own imperalist ideas.
he met the serbs on his way to the hospital -
I won't jump into that conclusion so soon. It might turns out to be a VERY well calculaued move by the government as a whole, or LHL himself. Average person usually has very less knowledge of what is happening that the governement level.Originally posted by HENG@:honestly? im on the side of the China chinese, because I feel LHL is nothing but an idiot. but u really aren't doing your fellow countrymen a favour by making yourselves look bad. anyways, thats just some friendly advice. I still think LHL is an idiot.
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musta been really hated. ouch.Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:yeah but the arch duke or something didn't die in the first attempt
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dunno but i think it was like they found that he wasn't dead so they tried to kill him againOriginally posted by HENG@:musta been really hated. ouch. -
Some analysis of LHL's visit from Asia Times:
http://202.85.169.139/gate/gb/www.asiatimes-chinese.com/2004/07/0726rep.htm
http://202.85.169.139/gate/gb/www.asiatimes-chinese.com/2004/07/0727rep2.htm
Maybe the visit is a well-calculated move, or maybe SG government/LHL under-estimated the potential reaction from China.
It is a political game. There is no need to put too much emotion in it. In such game, big nation bulling small nation is a very common practice, and small country often play one big nation against another big one in order to get its benefit. That's the reality. Nation-to-nation can not be simply compared to individual-to-individual.
Both SG and CN are playing by the rule. It is nothing about betray or over-react. Every step is either well-calculated or mis-calculated. [/url] -
whynot, why don't u tell us wat wat is your opinion on the motive of LHL going to taiwan in your own words ?
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I think China is at fault. By conducting exercises off the coast of Fujian, they have alienated and annoyed the Taiwanese people. This has been used by Chen SuiBian of Pan- Green Alliance to ramp up his support. Its like China taking a stone to hit her own feet.Originally posted by j28w32:East and west germany united is a good example of this sort.. it would be very nice if china and taiwan can follow the suit. but the reality is quite different between these two countries.. i am not interested in ideology at all. in my understanding, that is quite out of date concept. That is only being used as an excuse for sb's own purpose.. exactly like democracy.. american like using that..
the reunity issue is totally because of sth else.. it is related with the national interests, and the future of a country and people. so i would say china can not afford to lose taiwan.
on the other hand,, taiwan knows the real situation of china right now... china wants to take this period of time to get its economy into a good shape.. and would not want to get into war in the first place unless it has got any opton.
and taiwan just wants to take advantage of this time,, and do sth like gambling.. maybe they thought if they do the "right" thing at this time,, maybe they can become independent and china is not so strong,, so china can not stop them. and they are very clear,, if the things keep going like this, china would become another world or at least regional power. taiwan would lose the chance forever.. That is where the "hurry" is coming from. it is not because of china, but taiwan starts pushing.. and playing the ball in the hard way. also at the back of their mind they always think american will come to save if they go too far.
in the meanwhile, they created whole set of fancy names to support their intention of getting indepent.. those are just excuse.. and the dangerous part is taiwan serously underestimate the determination of china.. that would put taiwan into real disaster someday..
Most Taiwanese want peace and not independence. China's aggressive stand will only alienate the Taiwanese further. I think China should put up a more friendly stand towards Taiwan.