LHL govt encourage us to play a part ..but
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who me?Originally posted by tspg:Ignorance is definitely not a bliss.
I am just trying to tear the masks off hypocrites who come here disguised as a member of the academia and try to mislead the public with their crap.
if you do feel that someone is here only to misled the public, then prove his "facts" wrong with "facts", no use trying to argue by using strong words , its just like LKY , you can win an arguement, but you leave people unconvinced -
Nope not you. At least not yetOriginally posted by oldbreadstinks:who me?
if you do feel that someone is here only to misled the public, then prove his "facts" wrong with "facts", no use trying to argue by using strong words , its just like LKY , you can win an arguement, but you leave people unconvinced
As the great sage say " action = reaction "
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Hmm. I'm wondering if you're the FireIce moderator who appears frequently in Aunt Agony. Juz loves your pun "Member Mentor".Originally posted by FireIce:im waiting for change to happen too
but im brought up in an environment which taught us that as a singaporean, u are not supposed to have an opinion.... -
I've already become more or less disillusioned about this country. Hope SAF doesn't even bother to call me back for In Camp Training.
Despite all the talks, the prevalent culture in the government is still the same. It's still about "We talk, you as citizens just shut up, listen and follow my instructions" and the belief that "There is only one vision and policy that is pragmatic, practical and perfect -- no one should challenge it with alternative ideas."
Each time we take a step forward, we're pushed back a step. Some PAP newbie MPs thought they could voice alternative views and opinions in the Parliament, and before they know it, the PAP exercises the Party's Whip and struck them down hard.
OK, before I get too skeptical about everything, perhaps let's give the new LHL's government some time, then we can conclude if anything is changing at all and if the intention to be more open to diverse ideas is there. If he's sincere about it, sooner or later we can see his intention and we should support him.
I've got nothing personal against PAP or pro-opposition, just dislike the heavy-handed way it conducts business. The worst thing that could possibly happen is a free coffee session with the ISD, with free aircon comfort thrown in.
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I totally agreed with you in the above paragraph. Like the GST hike, most of the Singaporeans are against it. They know it but they don't give a damn...Originally posted by ykgoh:I've already become more or less disillusioned about this country. Hope SAF doesn't even bother to call me back for In Camp Training.
Despite all the talks, the prevalent culture in the government is still the same. It's still about "We talk, you as citizens just shut up, listen and follow my instructions" and the belief that "There is only one vision and policy that is pragmatic, practical and perfect -- no one should challenge it with alternative ideas."
Then comes the fare hike....etc etc...Tell us to speak up...RLMAO...
"Jiang le deng yu bai jiang, jiu shuo xin bu yao jiang"...Thats why most Singaporeans don't speak up.. -
Support the opposition then :Originally posted by ykgoh:I've already become more or less disillusioned about this country. Hope SAF doesn't even bother to call me back for In Camp Training.
Despite all the talks, the prevalent culture in the government is still the same. It's still about "We talk, you as citizens just shut up, listen and follow my instructions" and the belief that "There is only one vision and policy that is pragmatic, practical and perfect -- no one should challenge it with alternative ideas."
Each time we take a step forward, we're pushed back a step. Some PAP newbie MPs thought they could voice alternative views and opinions in the Parliament, and before they know it, the PAP exercises the Party's Whip and struck them down hard.
OK, before I get too skeptical about everything, perhaps let's give the new LHL's government some time, then we can conclude if anything is changing at all and if the intention to be more open to diverse ideas is there. If he's sincere about it, sooner or later we can see his intention and we should support him.
I've got nothing personal against PAP or pro-opposition, just dislike the heavy-handed way it conducts business. The worst thing that could possibly happen is a free coffee session with the ISD, with free aircon comfort thrown in.
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Forumnites have identified the following past policies as unworkable because they did not help Singapore to overcome problems like high costs, structural or non-structural unemployments and constraints of all kinds as pointed out to freedom of expressions, correctons to past policies etc:
(1) High Cost policy - traceable to anti-welfare policy of the past auto-piloted to the extent that government depts and stat boards are accumulating huge surpluses. Monies get sucked up from the economy and cannot spin to benefit all causing unemployment and loss of economic competitiveness.
(2) Pro-erudite talent instead of pro-practical knowledge application policies - giving rise to class society and elitism. The rest of the population do not contribute as they should have done because of feeling a sense of alienation.
(3) Pro-foreign policy - trade off in terms of stifling growth of domestic sector not recognized or pre-empted. S-passes and work permits are issued too liberally causing foreigners to come in to take up many jobs that could be filled by locals because of a few dollar difference.
(4) Because of (1) (2) and (3) as stated abovesaid, Singaporeans do not feel encouraged or motivated. We can try to please the young with some carrots like getting to listen to them more but how about going forward to implement changes to (1) - (3)
There are many more policies that are unworkable. There was some indications that LHL is going to do something. He will implement openness first and perhaps change unworkable or mixed policies later. All got to give him more time.
To get to the next level of making changes to fundamental polcies like anti-welfarism which GCT has somewhat moderated, LHL encourages robust debates. If we want to go for robust debates robustness must be allowed to the people taking part. Any OB markers? Any watchful ISDs. Any putting up of past policies on the table for robustness of debates to pin point problems. Can remaking of Singapore happen as recommended at key policy level?
Ministers who give some indications include Dr. Balakrishnan and Lim Swee Say. May be Minister Khaw Boon Wan can offer some tips on lowering of costs. May be Tony Tan can help to give his vast experiences on how to change deeply entrenched but unworkable policies?
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clap clapOriginally posted by paperduck:come on , give LHL govt and PAP more time to change..
ppl no happy with the singpore govt, LHL or PAP, please play your part to
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i personally feel people who only know how to complain in sgforum are abit loser.
play your part, help to improve. dont be a auntie will only know how to speak up in the market .
If you think you are too lonely..you can alway form a group from sgforum who share the same view as you, i can also join you too .we can work out what is best for singapore. -
maybe you can list out more parties so that we can have a wider range of choices?Originally posted by tspg: