Sick of hearing and reading those comments on PM speech
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News after news, articles after articles ..
All seem trying to praise and say all the good things about PM national rally day speech from 1001 angles ..
All over the places, again and again, individuals trying to 'angkat' the speech .. looking into nitty gritty and zooming in all the little little good things .. make them as if they got the whole world given to them ..
Perhaps they think PM office will keep the record of all the good things they said then they will be rewarded ..
Really sick and tired of all these comments ..
There are two sides of a coin .. there are good things and bad (or 'not so good') about everything .. -
Shut your eyes, cover your ears.
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yeah i agree.. today, my econs teacher told me abt the economic implications behind the maternity leave and stuffs.. although the govt increase the leave, more medisave and stuffs like that, but whose going to pay for it? the private sector aren't that stupid. so, it all goes back to to the govt. but, the govt isn't stupid too.. they will just increase taxes in order to pay for all these.. in the end, the taxpayers wil be the one paying all these. for those who studied econs, this would be a bad news for them as what my teacher told me.
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Originally posted by nasmeg:News after news, articles after articles ..
All seem trying to praise and say all the good things about PM national day speech from 1001 angles ..
All over the places, again and again, individuals trying to 'angkat' the speech .. looking into nitty gritty and zooming in all the little little good things .. make them as if they got the whole world given to them ..
Really sick and tired of all these comments ..
There are two sides of a coin .. there are good things and bad (or 'not so good') about everything .. i am guilty of it....i switched off the tv during the speech n turned on the radio. -
should get rongshao's econ teacher being interviewed by media to balance the reporting ..
quick someone call channelnewsasia/straitstimes/today to get in touch with rongshao's teacher ..
rongshao informs your teacher to get prepared for interview .. -
haha.. sarcastic? anyway, its up to u guys to believe ornt.. my teacher not that free to give an interviewOriginally posted by nasmeg:should get rongshao's econ teacher being interviewed by media to balance the reporting ..
quick someone call channelnewsasia/straitstimes/today to get in touch with rongshao's teacher ..
rongshao informs your teacher to get prepared for interview .. 
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I'd thought what I'll do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes. Or shall I?
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rongshao, not meant to be sarcastic .. we should try to look at everything from both sides of a coin ..
your econ teacher is good example if s/he is willing to voice out the concern ..
anyway, here are some excerpts i took from today's straitstimes -- as you can see all only focusing on the good thingy (those in the bracket are my comments)
- 'i kept sending sms messages to my friends asking if what i was hearing was true'
(what the heck is this comment, no relevance and only want to 'angkat', how long and how many smse did he send by claiming 'kept sending')
- 'singaporeans now have less of an excuse for not wanting to speak up'
(got excuse or not is not the reason why someone wants to speak up, there are 1001 other reasons, what the heck he thinks he knows why we are not speaking up, a psychic?)
- 'i hope .. the trust between the govment and the volunteer groups will be strengthened. by giving more space, the govment will only haul in people when they overstep the boundaries rather than check on them every step of the way'
(what? do you think govment so free to check you on every step of the way? better no comment than speak up like tat)
- 'oh, it was very wonderful! i liked the wide coverage of topics and his style. in the past, i used to feel he was more reserved and stern. but it's clear he's someone who can also crack jokes'
(this person who gave the above comment is only open the mouth without any substance as if he knows PM well enough to comment like tat, and he thinks PM must give jokes?)
- 'that was a very profound statement, so profound that i think it will send a wave of change across the whole education scene because here in singapore, we are certainly over-teaching our students'
(if this person already certain that we have been all along over-teaching, why he only opens his mouth now, what an opportunist!)
- 'i wasn't planning to watch the whole speech but i did because his delivery was very personable and interesting. mr lee showed that he is someone who is really in touch with the grassroots level'
(better keep his mouth shut, than comment no use like tat ) -
at last, someone came out and voice out the concerns ...
see and read the main page article of Today:
'An open society? We'll see'
'Young Singaporeans sceptical about the promised changes'
This comment below is very true:
- 'even then, if they say let's allow this, there will always be a little star, and at the bottom, small print explaining the catch and conditions attached'
- 'if you want a beach, you go to a beach, not to a swimming pool and pretend it's a beach or hope it will become one later' -
People are free to speak up, ppl should be encouraged to voice their opinion. This is freedom of speech. Why feel guilty if you spoke, unless you just follow the crowd and did not speak your true feeling.Originally posted by huiz: i am guilty of it....i switched off the tv during the speech n turned on the radio.
If the people are singing in the same tune that is different from yours, they are also not wrong. -
A new leadership is taking place... untried and untested. Do you think anyone will dare to tilt the balance and say the bad about anything as yet...Originally posted by nasmeg:News after news, articles after articles ..
All seem trying to praise and say all the good things about PM national rally day speech from 1001 angles ..
All over the places, again and again, individuals trying to 'angkat' the speech .. looking into nitty gritty and zooming in all the little little good things .. make them as if they got the whole world given to them ..
Perhaps they think PM office will keep the record of all the good things they said then they will be rewarded ..
Really sick and tired of all these comments ..
There are two sides of a coin .. there are good things and bad (or 'not so good') about everything ..
Even if there are unfavourable comments that are unsure regarding his new governance, policies, it will take time for this issues to be addressed. As of the current moment, filtration of such comments seems to be the best policy. -
frankly i dont really care what he has to say or all those PAP fellow say on TV. they just treat singaporean like idiots. anyway singaporean are really idiots. all newspaper are pro PAP. nothing bad can be sad about them.
week ago i was in china watching local china channel, they have a politics talk show about singapore. why we can accept such a family rule.
LSY - singtel/ BG
HC - temasek holding
LSL- Finance minister/ PM/BG
LKY- Senior PM but still influenial.
I think we are stupid la to accept such a system in singapore which nowhere in the whole can tolorate. we are less outspoken than the rest of the developed country, our ppl general knowledge level is pathetic, and yet when we go oversea, we feel so proud and houlian and basically hated by many. -
It is indeed not very nice to see one family monopolises so many things. As for the local media and newspapers, they are so pro-PAP that they will always portray them in a positive light. Nowadays I don't really watch local news anymore... You will seldom or never see this kind of article in the Straits times.Originally posted by reyes:frankly i dont really care what he has to say or all those PAP fellow say on TV. they just treat singaporean like idiots. anyway singaporean are really idiots. all newspaper are pro PAP. nothing bad can be sad about them.
week ago i was in china watching local china channel, they have a politics talk show about singapore. why we can accept such a family rule.
LSY - singtel/ BG
HC - temasek holding
LSL- Finance minister/ PM/BG
LKY- Senior PM but still influenial.
I think we are stupid la to accept such a system in singapore which nowhere in the whole can tolorate. we are less outspoken than the rest of the developed country, our ppl general knowledge level is pathetic, and yet when we go oversea, we feel so proud and houlian and basically hated by many.
Taiwanese lawmaker says S'pore's new PM acted like a worm when facing China's pressure. Full story pls read here:
http://asia.news.yahoo.com/040824/ap/d84lhth00.html -
I think their family business is more than that.Originally posted by reyes:frankly i dont really care what he has to say or all those PAP fellow say on TV. they just treat singaporean like idiots. anyway singaporean are really idiots. all newspaper are pro PAP. nothing bad can be sad about them.
week ago i was in china watching local china channel, they have a politics talk show about singapore. why we can accept such a family rule.
LSY - singtel/ BG
HC - temasek holding
LSL- Finance minister/ PM/BG
LKY- Senior PM but still influenial.
I think we are stupid la to accept such a system in singapore which nowhere in the whole can tolorate. we are less outspoken than the rest of the developed country, our ppl general knowledge level is pathetic, and yet when we go oversea, we feel so proud and houlian and basically hated by many. -
basically i think most singaporean want to set up LEE temple to pray him by the mass media applause. as the saying goes, the economic of his proposal means someone has to pay for the benefits. if now our govt dont have surplus, where the money come from for the baby.
probably from those who dont give baby.
trust me, what govt give to you today, you will be giving them back 10 times more in years to come.
singapore just arent a place for us to breed the next generation. i feel sad for the next generation here. the media are controlled if they are not controlled then they arent dare enough to voice the true concern of singaporean or lead singaporean to voice their concern? are our reporters muted? i think so. if they are singapore educated reporters i dare them not write something bad about the adminstration. even if they do, probaly long sack by SPH.
i ever hear from radio, that even fellow singaporean start to think like the govt. if MRT need to build a door at the open station and its the listener who suggest we should bear the cost. funny thinking singaporean. MRT making hundreds of million a year from us. it isnt asking alot for them to build a door to ensure safety of children and old folks from falling into the track.
singaporean, time to wake up and stop thinking alike like the govt. we need to think outside our world.
if some of your teacher dare to stand out to voice out their concern, please encourage them and stop hiding behind the desk. -
particularly about SMRT .. I also really sick of them not listening to briliant suggestion ..
accident already happened many times - people falling to track - but they don't want to listen .. even Malaysia is much better - they build half fence as one reader suggested in reader's forum some time back - no need a full glass door .. that should not cost much money and operational cost but those SMRT official just pretend to be deaf ..
sad but true .. those people in high level position more thinking about keeping their post than doing something out of the box and getting sacked ...
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Originally posted by reyes:
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frankly i dont really care what he has to say or all those PAP fellow say on TV. they just treat singaporean like idiots. anyway singaporean are really idiots. all newspaper are pro PAP. nothing bad can be sad about them.
week ago i was in china watching local china channel, they have a politics talk show about singapore. why we can accept such a family rule.
LSY - singtel/ BG
HC - temasek holding
LSL- Finance minister/ PM/BG
LKY- Senior PM but still influenial.
I think we are stupid la to accept such a system in singapore which nowhere in the whole can tolorate. we are less outspoken than the rest of the developed country, our ppl general knowledge level is pathetic, and yet when we go oversea, we feel so proud and houlian and basically hated by many.
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=54801 -
thanks for the information about temasek holding. i am not surprise at all. but does anyone in singapore care? is there anyone who is powerful and influential enought to step out and voice out our concern. or have opposition voice out before but singaporean arent concern about it anymore?
has anyone in singaporean already defected to the lee powerful army? sad case for singaporean.
let the dynasty rule begins!!!!!! -
Singapore will not survive is it's managed in this manner.If we want our nation to live on, the rot must be stopped and wallpapers must be torn back to expose the cracks in the wall, it's not a pretty sight but it needs to be done.What's a short period of not having wallpapers to beautify one's home if we can solve the foundational and structural problems in the meanwhile.
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Change is a process not an event. An NDR is not going to change things overnight but LHL may have kickstart the process of change with the speech. Its up to Singaporeans to take part and offer their views and bring about the changes in the way the country is run.
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Can anyone please remind me why you all hate your local government again? I need tangible reasons to do my comic. All i see is discontent without reason.
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There is plenty of material for you at sammyboy.Originally posted by men_@_arms:Can anyone please remind me why you all hate your local government again? I need tangible reasons to do my comic. All i see is discontent without reason. -
Originally posted by nasmeg:rongshao, not meant to be sarcastic .. we should try to look at everything from both sides of a coin ..
your econ teacher is good example if s/he is willing to voice out the concern ..
anyway, here are some excerpts i took from today's straitstimes -- as you can see all only focusing on the good thingy (those in the bracket are my comments)
- 'i kept sending sms messages to my friends asking if what i was hearing was true'
(what the heck is this comment, no relevance and only want to 'angkat', how long and how many smse did he send by claiming 'kept sending')
- 'singaporeans now have less of an excuse for not wanting to speak up'
(got excuse or not is not the reason why someone wants to speak up, there are 1001 other reasons, what the heck he thinks he knows why we are not speaking up, a psychic?)
- 'i hope .. the trust between the govment and the volunteer groups will be strengthened. by giving more space, the govment will only haul in people when they overstep the boundaries rather than check on them every step of the way'
(what? do you think govment so free to check you on every step of the way? better no comment than speak up like tat)
- 'oh, it was very wonderful! i liked the wide coverage of topics and his style. in the past, i used to feel he was more reserved and stern. but it's clear he's someone who can also crack jokes'
(this person who gave the above comment is only open the mouth without any substance as if he knows PM well enough to comment like tat, and he thinks PM must give jokes?)
- 'that was a very profound statement, so profound that i think it will send a wave of change across the whole education scene because here in singapore, we are certainly over-teaching our students'
(if this person already certain that we have been all along over-teaching, why he only opens his mouth now, what an opportunist!)
- 'i wasn't planning to watch the whole speech but i did because his delivery was very personable and interesting. mr lee showed that he is someone who is really in touch with the grassroots level'
(better keep his mouth shut, than comment no use like tat )
oh ok.. but i'm afraid to inform you that my teacher only like to voice his opinions in class.. so.. too bad! -
long time since i post here.
well i think to some extent the media coverage on the speech is a bit too biased.
I saw the part whereby they claim that "activists hail govt's reforms". Basically the person they interviewed was the defunct head of the roundtable. The Wp's slyvia lim didnt even comment.
frankly i feel that if you look closer, yes there are changes that help us, but he is still side skirting the opening of society. There is alot of existing debate on the need to open society so you guys can look at other threads.
Well men at arms asks why are we unhappy with government because all he sees is just ramblings with no substantiation.
i feel that the government has done a good job. But it is probhably getting into people's nerve that most of their MPs are not elected. As we know every election 70-80 percent of the seats remain unchallenge. It is also widely acknowledge that the Ruling Party engages in gerrymandering just before each election. Such a situation whereby there is no viable opposition and an extremely powerful incumbent causes this resentment-where the people do not feel represented-which Men at arms is looking for. people can get sick when some one is always right too. -
I don't even bother reading them. See the title, skip. Next news please. Learn to filter information. We are in the age of information overload.Originally posted by nasmeg:News after news, articles after articles ..
All seem trying to praise and say all the good things about PM national rally day speech from 1001 angles ..
All over the places, again and again, individuals trying to 'angkat' the speech .. looking into nitty gritty and zooming in all the little little good things .. make them as if they got the whole world given to them ..
Perhaps they think PM office will keep the record of all the good things they said then they will be rewarded ..
Really sick and tired of all these comments ..
There are two sides of a coin .. there are good things and bad (or 'not so good') about everything ..