You NEED a DEGREE to work in SINGAPORE
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From talking to my friends, I realised that there are no future for diploma holders.
If they dun upsize to degree, they will have to hata kake at their position.
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Hmm, depends.
My lecturer noted its easier for marketing people to get a job if they have diploma than having a degree.
Diploma in marketing is sufficient, since a lot depends on applications rather than knowledge or theory. And usually hiring a degree holder require higher salary (by virtue of his educational qualification) generally.
Seriously, a good boss will hire people who can perform, rather than someone who just a have a paper qualification. This is has been said many a times, but all bosses are profit driven, and there is no reason why he should not get performers. If there is still a trend on relying on purely paper qualifications, well, the implications for Singapore business are worrying.
Just my dua sens.
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But now everyone r getting a degree... See already also stress out. Its like u r losing out without a degree nowadays
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well, there is a huge supply of degreeholders..but not sure if its matched equally by demand...Originally posted by Ogbunwezeh:But now everyone r getting a degree... See already also stress out. Its like u r losing out without a degree nowadays -
I think you're more interested in monetary gains.Originally posted by Medicated Oil:From talking to my friends, I realised that there are no future for diploma holders.
If they dun upsize to degree, they will have to hata kake at their position.
What does the rest of you feel ???
No future? What future are you looking at? A big bungalow or 3-room flat? A simple dinner or a banquet every night?
I wonder if you should consider learning how to manage your own finances to make up for your losses. -
Is it??? Can earn more than $180 (minimum) per day not, if not I will remain as a 'N' level...
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Eventually, what counts is performance.
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A degree is just a piece of paper.
If after working for a while and you still know nuts, then that piece of paper won't save your career. Personally, while I think that a uni education is good, it is not really necessary in today's society. There are thousands of people who have lesser qualifications who are more business savvy, more street smart and earn more money than some graduates. A uni degree opens doors in the beginning, but what happens after that is another story. You still have to work your butt off to climb up. -
I fully disagree. I am not a degree holder...I am working.
It depends on your job...how many degree holders are working with you? Do degree holder do everything, from washing toilets to purchasing logistics?
I have worked with a lot of ppl...and the best are not degree holders.
I know some degree holders who excel at their studies.......but are idiots at work. They can conceptualize, come up with good presentations...but cannot carry out anything bcoz they cannot get anyone to work for them...their socialising skills and PR farktup lah. Double standard...cannot carry out what they preach... -
I dun have a degree. I dun think thats a problem. Its the ability of the person that counts. Having a degree shows that a person is good at studying. It doesnt mean that the person will do as well at work or solving problems. I've seen degree holders who become so brain-dead after so much studying that they cannot solve simple problems.
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i PSLE nia oso can support my 2 children...
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wait till u get a degree and still cannot find a job
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disagree.
a degree would be oni a stepping stone......wat gets u far is you and ur effort.....not the pang sai chua.....
and, if eberyone is a degree-holder, the value will drop (i think now oredi not much value liao), then wat next? masters?
then will someone say....You NEED a MASTERS to work in SINGAPORE...
then all will go get Masters
then when it's saturated again how?
all mus be Doctors?
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additional note .... this pang sai chua not cheap u knowOriginally posted by FireIce:disagree.
a degree would be oni a stepping stone......wat gets u far is you and ur effort.....not the pang sai chua.....
and, if eberyone is a degree-holder, the value will drop (i think now oredi not much value liao), then wat next? masters?
then will someone say....You NEED a MASTERS to work in SINGAPORE...
then all will go get Masters
then when it's saturated again how?
all mus be Doctors? 
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0 level is enough lah..
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FireIce got phd ? So intelligent.
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which brings us to the attention of the "buy degree" trend nowOriginally posted by InnoHippo:additional note .... this pang sai chua not cheap u know
got money to go take part-time degree u can get the degree
which contributes to de-valuing of degrees cos ebery ah mao ah gou oso can get a degree from chapalang DL institutes...... -
tts rightOriginally posted by paperchicken:FireIce got phd ? So intelligent.
permanent head damage from reading eberything in sgforums.com -
lol.. some even call themself doctors when they got doctorate from some wulu uni.. there's really no more value in degree liao!
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Being a degree holder nowaday may not be a good thing cos have u heard of boss not hiring degree cos they can hir 2 to 3 diploma or ITE graduates?
It really depend on what field you are in. Some must be degree or master, like research but engineering field often diploma or ITE is quite ok.
Like what others said, is your performance, PR skill that counts more after you step into the company with that paper. -
ya, i know of ppl who say they oni have O or A levels in order to get a job (even though they are degree-holders).....dun mind the low pay oso.....
and later, prove their worth and get promoted and pay-rise.....
u can comfort urself by recognising tt a lotta of our big-time entrepreneurs only have Os or diploma....but of course, they have good foresight and lotsa hard work..... -
If you want a job, you have to study hard, get a degree and stayed economically productive in the job market.
If you want to be an entrepreneur or be your own boss, try to make use of one of your best skills or knowlege instead of studying all the way to universities to earn a living for yourself.
Singapore is extremely short of the latter - entrepreneurs - so which course will you take should be decided by you when you are about to finish your "O'" or "A" level or ITE/Poly.
By the time a person reaches "O" or "ITE' he should have enough practical knowledge and be able to choose one field or skill to develop to make a living. Of course if one wants to work for people then it is better to go for further study.
If I were to discover something that really works and marketable while I am studying say at "A" or "O" level, I might seize opportunity to accept an offer to become an entrepreneur instead of trying to complete academic studies up to the U. -
The degree is just a stepping stone, if u do not have the ability, u will soon be found out and there goes your job. Even then as the number of degree holders join the job market, who will do the dirty work of the technicians, definately not the engineers! if u become an engineer and still does the job of a technician then won't the degree be a waste? Besides executive staff usually no OT pay.Originally posted by Medicated Oil:From talking to my friends, I realised that there are no future for diploma holders.
If they dun upsize to degree, they will have to hata kake at their position.
What does the rest of you feel ??? -
As long as you have a mouth, finding a job isn't going to be that hard. -
I am not saying that diploma holders cannot find a job.
But, I have observed that for some companies, the reason for not promoting a diploma holders that have years of experience is that they dun have paper qualification.
I dun dispute that some companies does recognise experience in a staff.
But, they will prefer getting pple with more paper qualification for the job.