

Robert,Originally posted by robertteh:Dear Forumers,
Today's newspaper published on 31.5.2005 a report headlined: "Is there political space in Singapore?: It is there" and concluded with a question: "should the people tell what they want"
Such a headline seems to suggest that there is sufficient political space but it is the people who do not know what they want.
By placing obstacles against oppositions such as GRC and the electoral boundary redrawings, it is more than obvious that the government is not going to change anything like granting any true political space.
Therefore if Today wants to report the truths, it should stop playing game and simply tell the truth - that the obstacles against election of opposition candidates should be removed as suggested in the "7 points of true democracy" posted in this thread.
This kind of justification press reporting smacks of hypocrisy like what Comedian Jack Neo has jokingly told his audience recently over a TV Interview in London when asked about the state of freedom in Singapore.
He said to laughers : "Oh, there is freedom of speech, See I am still here. The government has to tell people to speak up, say something say something".
Now Today's reporting simply repeats what Jack Neo has joked about: "Yes, please Speak up and say something, (Without mentioning that those who speak up were simply not listened to or ignored) and "tell us what changes you want".
The state-controlled newspapers up till now do not help to report the truths. They are causing further problems and delays to solutions to many problems by all kinds of gibberish justifications and hypocrisy.
Today should evaluate its journalism policy, practise accuracy and cover all the views and suggestions given here on changes to political process, and better protections of citizens' rights.
However I will not be surprised with Today's follow-up on this topic "Is there political space?" to portray a case of people as whiners and wimpers without telling the fact that people have in fact made many good suggestions which were to this day ignored. This kind of reporting is full of hypocrisy as anyone can see it.
I wrote to the editor and invited him to read the many suggestions given to the Feedback Unit or Sgforums on changes government can make to solve the many problems complained of by Singaporeans.
By now Today's editor should have read the many views and suggestions e.g. current high costs of living, double-charging on land, triple charging on vehicle, wrongful raising of university fees and bus fare when government or transport company is in surpluses.
He should have read the suggestion to bring back the democratic frameworks and restore people's basic right to elect their representatives as posted in the "7 points of true democracy" under this thread.
If the editor is up to the truths, he certainly should have responded by now - 4 days later. Normally a forum letter is published the next working day.
He could help to correct the wrongful assumption that there is sufficiency of political space but there is no articulateness in people's views on what they want?
From the odd silence over the past 3 days or more, it does look like Today will not print my letter to the editor or look into suggestions or views of forumers given here or to the feedback unit.
Unless I am wrong as Today need more report truths as they see them. I am staying hopeful that Today is still a more objective Singaporean newspaper.
I hope the silence will be broken and suggestions on political or policy changes from the people will be published truthfully by our newspapers.
Until then the newspapers will be justifications and hypocrisy that people are given the political freedoms but they being whiners or wimpers do not know what they want as reflected in Today's slanted headlined report as published on 31.5.2005.
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To a large degree quality of people will determine quality of government or leaders.Originally posted by pikamaster:Robert,
TODAY is at least trying to be more objective, and it IS much more objective than ST. But of course, as you have stated, all media in our country is bound by tight laws which restrict what journalists can report. And obviously both SPH and MediaCorp will try tob end news to support the govt, especially opinions. The News is fact, i think i.e. ST and TODAY's "accurate and reliable reporting", but it definitely is a watered down version of the facts, at least for local news. Even RSF concedes tt foreign news reporting in local newspapers is very accurate.
the pikamaster (on holidays in Adelaide)

ermm...Originally posted by robertteh:MM Lee said to Abdullah Badawi, the Malaysian PM: "You got to pay your ministers high salaries to avoid corruption"
Badawi replied: "In Malaysia, we believe in integrity" (Implication : Malaysian ministers have integrity what about Singapore ministers?}
So far MM Lee has not given any reply to Badawi's rebuff. I believe MM Lee is lost for words in this instance. Perhaps like the man often said, : let history be the judge ...in this case history will probably be called upon to judge whether integrity is more crucial than moneyism - MM Lee's pincipal theory of modern-day government.![]()
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i agree with you totally.Originally posted by robertteh:The current democracy framework as provided in the constitution is too general and uncertain, liable to amendments or tweaking to suit the narrow private agendas of any political parties in power e.g. depolitisation, co-option and machination.
It is essential to overhaul the current constitution to incorporate safeguards to prevent any abuses or gerrymandeering of any kinds by any political party in power.
The following basic democratic rights of citizens should be incorporated with proper safeguards to overcome existing problems:-
(1) One Man One Vote, or one Man two votes (one for constitutuency representation and one for election of 20 percents of total candidates to offer as shadow cabinet or act as practical checks and balances on actions of party in power)
(2) Protection of citizens against prosecution for political participation.
(3) Basic rights of citizens are enshrined in the constitution.
(4) Rule of law, fairness and equity and upholding of election or constitutional rights of citizens.
(5) Establishment of a low-cost independent sub-court open to observers from UN agencies to oversee election process and political participation by citizens.
e.g. To look into amendment of election process and giving out of pre-election goodies etc.
(6) Investigation by an idependent sub-court of reported conflict of interests
e.g. To look into comparison logic or appropriateness in equating elected representatives' pays and perks to highest in private sector or the world and self-voting of ministers' pay or other benefits.
(7) Non prosecution of political opponents
(e.g. Speeches made during the 60-day pre-election campaigning should be protected suitably from indictment or impeachment of any kinds subject to interpretations and oversight by independent sub-court according to provisions of the constitution laws or citizens' basic rights.)
Only by guaranteeing the rights of citizens' political participations will we be in a position to build an all-inclusive cosmopolitan society attractive to all citizens and outside talents and encouraging growth of investments and competitiveness in the economy.
Basic principles and guidelines should be enshrined in the constitution of independent administration of governance and justice according to Rule of law, fairness and equity.
Basic principles and guidelines alone are not sufficient to prevent abuse. It is critical to establish an independent low-cost sub-court open to observers from UN agencies to oversea fair and equitable election process or political participation by any citizens.
e.g. To look into propriety or legitimacy of giving out of pre-election goodies by the incumbent government etc.
Independent investigation by an independent sub-court has the power to look into conflict of interests e.g. self-recommendation and -voting of proposals for salaries and perks for MPs, Ministers etc or equating elected representatives' pays and perks to highest in private sector or the world.
It is critical to ensure Non-prosecution of political opponents or public debunking of political views through the state-controlled media or under the pretext of OB markers or exposing the personal lives of citizens to serve the private political agendas of any parties without the sanction by independent subcourt.
Citizens should be assured of their rights to speak up against any wrong doings of government without running the risk of prosecution under the general defamation laws except with a certification of prima facie by an independent low-cost sub-court set up to protect citizens' basic rights as stated in item 2 & 3.
Only when the constitution is properly safeguarded against current wrong doings and gerrymandeering will the citizens be able to come forward to serve the country irrespective of belief, cult, race or religion.
It will not serve the interest of anyone to keep to the current status quo. It is time to speak up on the part of all citizens on what they want and their rights of political participations.
(amended on 25.5.2005 to incorporate views of forumers e.g. pikamaster etc)
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Even though democracy is not perfect, other political systems are even more prone to abuses, malpractices, oppressions, genocites, injustices...Originally posted by dryver:i agree with you totally.
bear in mind this, singapore needed a strong leader.LKY provided for that.
Insurgents abound in the early years, u need to rule like a dictator to wipe out these threats to ensure peace and stability.
the constitution is open to manipulation by the ruling political party becos the ruling party wants to ensure that growth and stability which may be lost if another party comes into power. fortunately, the ruling party has been able to ensure growth and stability.
however, singaporerans are more concious now. like you robertteh. like you say, we need to bring changes to the constitution.
changes not just to bring true democracy. that would be too short sighted and simplistic. becos even true democracy is open to manipulation. look at the USA. so we need something better than just plain democracy. or an updated improved version of it.
point taken ,thanks for the feedback. how are you working towards achieving this,personally? i mean,other than posting in this forum?Originally posted by robertteh:Even though democracy is not perfect, other political systems are even more prone to abuses, malpractices, oppressions, genocites, injustices...
What we need at this point to assess our strengths and weaknesses and try to build on our strengths and evolve to a politcal system worth maintaining for our future survival.
I agree that even with adoption of accountable democratic framework incorporating the 7 points of accountability e.g. non-prosecution of political opponents in the name of defamation, etc, we are still not able to prevent future abuses and malpractices.
Without safeguards, I shudder to think of our future when the unaccountable way of governance might get worse. We do not know the quality of our future leaders and without checks and balances they might decide to let the high costs of living go out of control or introduce only policies that benefit the elites even more not to mention our multi-billions investments and funds at their easy disposals.
However since other systems such as autocracy, totalitarianism, theocracy, socialism or communism have fared worse in history and as there is hardly any alternative better than democracy, we should try to build on our current democratic foundation and incrementally improve upon it to prevent any future possible abuses or manipulations that serve one-party or elites' interests.
Because the possible abuses under any other political systems would be worse, we should build on our current administrative, judiciary and legislative framework and proceed to put in relevant safeguard over time towards attaining our own form of practical democracy.
dryver,Originally posted by dryver:point taken ,thanks for the feedback. how are you working towards achieving this,personally? i mean,other than posting in this forum?