Nails on Walls
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Since when did I say that ?Originally posted by kopiosatu:Yes, OPEN the fields first, build facilities. If they fail to obey, PUNISH them
but the problem now is that the kids are being cornered with no other options.
Tell them to play another game? Obviously a non-footballer making that comment. -
Originally posted by Chin Eng:
Like i said, build adequate facilities, open the school fields BEFORE we decided to put nails on walls.
On the other hand....
I do understand the situation. I am not saying that putting the nails are correct. I am saying that the "reason" for kids to play soccer (or ball games) in a void deck with plenty of pillars is [b]NOT the solution.
Kids being kids, they don't care if the balls are clean or dirty, they don't care if the balls hit the fluorescent tubes and smashing them, they run away at the first spot of trouble. So in such a situation, what do YOU say?
I'd agree that there is insufficient play areas, I just don't agree that the void deck is the place for ball games, especially but kids who can't aim a ball to save their life.
On the same side of the argument, a soccer game is not the end-all in this argument. What if kids wish to play squash, or rugby, or tennis? Wouldn't you agree that there are other proper places to play this game?[/b]
If u can see the situation right now, where can the kids go?
And poor neighbourhood kids don't play rugby, tennis or squash i can assure you that. -
it was a personal commentOriginally posted by The Barracuda:Since when did I say that ? -
wowOriginally posted by tspg:Town councils resort to embedding nails on walls in common areas and void decks to deter children from playing ball games there. - New Paper.
I think thats really a stupid idea. They shd look at the root of the problem instead. That children have no proper places to play. Build more street soccer courts or educating them not to be inconsiderate by playing at void decks.
tt`s really dangerous..
not all children are aware of the danger the nials can pose to them..
when they get hurt it`ll be too late..
hope they`ll do something to get them down -
you gotta to note that this nails are only in one precinct (or something like that) It is a not a PAP or garmen initiative. I also agree that it is an ill-conceived idea to control the ball game issue. It is NOT A POLICY.Originally posted by kopiosatu:Like i said, build adequate facilities, open the school fields BEFORE we decided to put nails on walls.
If u can see the situation right now, where can the kids go?
And poor neighbourhood kids don't play rugby, tennis or squash i can assure you that.
You are right to assume that MOST neighbourhood kids do not play rugby, tennis or squash. I was just trying to illustrate a point that there is an issue with playing improper sports in the ill-suited void deck.
also along the same argument, kids can play many, many other games other than soccer. I do reiterate the fact that the void is a poor place for a proper game, not to mention dangerous when you consider the high chance of slamming oneself onto the pillars.
the issue is NOT, kids cannot play, it is kids should NOT PLAY BALL GAMES IN THE VOID DECK. -
They are toking abt it on Wat Say You.
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Originally posted by Chin Eng:
Yes, do not play at the void, then i will tell you, LOOK AT THE ROOT CAUSE.
you gotta to note that this nails are only in one precinct (or something like that) It is a not a PAP or garmen initiative. I also agree that it is an ill-conceived idea to control the ball game issue. It is NOT A POLICY.
You are right to assume that MOST neighbourhood kids do not play rugby, tennis or squash. I was just trying to illustrate a point that there is an issue with playing improper sports in the ill-suited void deck.
also along the same argument, kids can play many, many other games other than soccer. I do reiterate the fact that the void is a poor place for a proper game, not to mention dangerous when you consider the high chance of slamming oneself onto the pillars.
the issue is NOT, [b]kids cannot play, it is kids should NOT PLAY BALL GAMES IN THE VOID DECK.
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Schools must open their fields to let us play.
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and parents will start complaining about strangers in the schoolOriginally posted by paperchicken:Schools must open their fields to let us play. -
idiotsOriginally posted by oldbreadstinks:and parents will start complaining about strangers in the school -
I saw that talk show too. Personally I find the whole issue ridiculous.
Instead of fortifying up the neighbourhood with nails, why dun both parties - the town council and kids come to a compromise solution?
Dun use the real soccer ball and substitiute with it with those softer plastic toy types available in any shopping centres lah. -
next time kids will play in the carpark.
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No worries.Originally posted by paperchicken:next time kids will play in the carpark.
Maybe LTA will then follow what town councils are currently doing and put nails on the carpark ground too... -
Originally posted by [ Neo ]:No worries.
Maybe LTA will then follow what town councils are currently doing and put nails on the carpark ground too...
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What is the mentality prevailing here? Singaporean are very at home in taking punitive actions to solve problem, fine, ban, jail, cane. Can't do this to the kids so resort to embed nails on walls, to prevent, to discourage... The idea is: "as long as you don't come and dirty my place, as long as you don't damage my school field, where you play balls is not my problem."..... other places you just see signs saying 'no swimming, no cycling, no ball games......'Originally posted by tspg:Town councils resort to embedding nails on walls in common areas and void decks to deter children from playing ball games there. - New Paper.
I think thats really a stupid idea. They shd look at the root of the problem instead. That children have no proper places to play. Build more street soccer courts or educating them not to be inconsiderate by playing at void decks.
Everybody is talking about why you can't do this, why you can't do that, who are the people thinking about where our kids can have adequate places to run and play? May be Sport Council? no wonder Sport Council find it easier to import foreign talents.
The best way to maintain a place is not to use it, or for minimum use. It is not wrong, but this is certainly the easy way out. -
Go changi airport and play.Originally posted by [ Neo ]:No worries.
Maybe LTA will then follow what town councils are currently doing and put nails on the carpark ground too...
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Go Istana and play better.
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they can build nails to prevent children from playing ball games...why not build barriers at MRT platform to prevent people from falling or commit suicides?
allow me to give my 2-cent idea lah...guarantee 100% sure works!! BUT i decided not to share leow......heeheeeeee...........they wanna do unnecessary thing, let them continue to do so.....
my ideas will be kept inside my head......see if i can put them into some money generating business or not..... -
Heh Heh, this thread is quoted in ST. Tspg, Chin Eng and Shutterbug are quoted.
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I think Singapore as a society needs to wake up to a new reality - one in which we take responsibility for our own actions, and do not need childish mindings from the government.
The moment we see people falling into railway tracks, we deem it to be the government's concern, and plead for its involvement. Don't you think that had everyone the sense to keep away from the edge, they would be able to stop accidental deaths?
Now that we are afraid that people playing soccer in the void decks would hurt passer-bys, and urge the town councils to install nails to stop people from playing. Can't everyone just be satisfied with being told to do the sensible? It is like a fly which is determined to fly towards the fly paper even though it knows that the fly paper means certain death!
For every time we continue to depend on the government to protect us from ourselves, we make one major leap backwards in our development as a sensible society capable of making our own independent choices. That has been one of the reasons the PAP has managed to retain power: the promise to plan your life for you seems too irresistable to most.
Grow up, people! -
Why they never quote paperchicken.Originally posted by Qitai:Heh Heh, this thread is quoted in ST. Tspg, Chin Eng and Shutterbug are quoted.
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Quote this?Originally posted by paperchicken:Go changi airport and play. -
Not that.Originally posted by Qitai:Quote this?
School fields are out of bounds one. In basket ball courts soccer players must complete with basketball players. If there are enough street soccer courts around you think the kids want to play downstairs where there are so many pillars and the space is so small ? I think Town Councils shd construct more street soccer courts.
This is better.