What we learnt from the latest Chee vs MIW deathmatch
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What did we learn from their tit for tat slime balls besides that both sides can't be trusted and have their own personal agenda? Please add on...
1. MIW still as intolerant as ever despite Young Lee's pledge to handle more criticism
2. Chee probably getting funding and backing from some parts of the US gahment
3. MIW still thinks lawsuits are cool to intimidate the opposition, probably because Lau Lee was a lawyer and that's all he knows on how to screw people
4. Chee, oso ARDA chairman, spends more time overseas in ARDA work and courting an international (mainly US) audience, than on SDP priorities and engaging a more important Sg audience
5. MIW is petty and goes berzerk about the slightest remotest implication that they are corrupt or incompetent (the supposed loan to Indonesia which the defamation lawsuit was about)
6. Chee, seemingly thriving on foreign backing and attention, looks like more concerned about having a poor thing image like Ghandi (remember Chee's 1993 hunger strike?) and wants to be a confrontational wannabe martyr rather than cleverly skipping lawsuits (do they use SDP money to pay up the lawsuits?) and smartly fencing with MIW
http://www.thevoiddeck.org/columns/col_217.htm
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No wonder CSJ is flying all over the shop!
Understand that ARDA is supported by the Bush. -
oh now thats great. either way we end up screwed.
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Chee is fighting a battle he can't win..
What makes you think that Chee won't be assasinated by ISD?
LKY is the LAW , much more powerful control then what Mahathir has..
tens of thousands of people dared to protest against Mahathir during last time DPM Anwar's sacking
You dare to play with the CJ Yong Pung How? He's LKY classmate..
Basically you can't win LKY , even USA can do anything during michael fay crisis.
Chee is basically dumb, he should wait longer.
Singapore's Press doesn't give coverage to him,
People here are quite happy ..kinda ok..
Singapore's Press are full of propaganda and doesn't report on the good things of "Chee"
All the bad points of "Chee" got marked out.
Don't Believe What You see ON SPH's report on Chee other then the televised one , they are probably lying.
When did i see the last official paper that criticized the govt or whatever policies?
HaHaHa. Even if Chee get control of SPH, he also would be sacked by the main shareholder which is temasek holdings. -
Tell them to battle it out here. In sgForums.
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I admire his guts.The public may ridicule him and for those who view him with suspicion, let me ask you.He is a university lecturer, could have had a good life.He chose to fight the system, although his tactics leave something to be desired, however he took up his gloves and is wiling to forego a comfy life by our standards.The MIW talk about his involvement with foreign watchgroups and think tanks and they deem him a traitor, but however when a top civil servant speaks to roundtables and think tanks abroad, he is feted as a brilliant scholar.Hypocrisy.Chee may be funded by the ARDA but it his own damn freedom to join or partake in any group he deems fit.Attack his policies but do not attack the man.Is he getting a comfy life or more by our standards after bring sponsored by ARDA?No.He still is under threat of lawsuits and political harassment.Taking things to the extreme seems to be the hallmark of the ruling party.But there is no more black and white in this world, only grey areas remain.The frogs in the well who think that the world moves in black and white are the neo conservatives in the US and the Islamic militants that stain our world with their wanton killing.Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:Chee is fighting a battle he can't win..
What makes you think that Chee won't be assasinated by ISD?
LKY is the LAW , much more powerful control then what Mahathir has..
tens of thousands of people dared to protest against Mahathir during last time DPM Anwar's sacking
You dare to play with the CJ Yong Pung How? He's LKY classmate..
Basically you can't win LKY , even USA can do anything during michael fay crisis.
Chee is basically dumb, he should wait longer.
Singapore's Press doesn't give coverage to him,
People here are quite happy ..kinda ok..
Singapore's Press are full of propaganda and doesn't report on the good things of "Chee"
All the bad points of "Chee" got marked out.
Don't Believe What You see ON SPH's report on Chee other then the televised one , they are probably lying.
When did i see the last official paper that criticized the govt or whatever policies?
HaHaHa. Even if Chee get control of SPH, he also would be sacked by the main shareholder which is temasek holdings. -
I only have 1 question to ask,When is LKY going to die?My prediction is he wont live for long,coz last time i saw him on TV during the pass over of PM's post ceremony,when he walk his legs is shaking,i think he is getting nearer n nearer to hell as day by day passes.
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Laser, ive met his dad before..
His dad is in a very-sad state..his son and daughter busy campaigning and doing stuffs in USA...now left in Old Folks home..
I spoke to him..and his dad were kinda sad as well for him..
Think Chee should think more about his domestic stuff , rather then outside stuff..he's father is in a sick condition now..
How can a man who doesn't treat his father well be in-charge of the nation ?
Aniwae, shall save my vote for a really really good guy!
I don't like the way Chee insulted our SM and MM during last election..
$17 billion dollar....LOL
Think Chee should become a MP first and know what is going on before firing off his mouth.
At least I believe Chiam See Tong is not bad
he doesn't speak bad of the PM as well.. -
Okay.You do make a valid point here.Especially the part about getting your house in order before trying to run for office.
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Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:Laser, ive met his dad before..
His dad is in a very-sad state..his son and daughter busy campaigning and doing stuffs in USA...now left in Old Folks home..
I spoke to him..and his dad were kinda sad as well for him..
Think Chee should think more about his domestic stuff , rather then outside stuff..he's father is in a sick condition now..
How can a man who doesn't treat his father well be in-charge of the nation ?
Aniwae, shall save my vote for a really really good guy!
I don't like the way Chee insulted our SM and MM during last election..
$17 billion dollar....LOL
Think Chee should become a MP first and know what is going on before firing off his mouth.
At least I believe Chiam See Tong is not bad
he doesn't speak bad of the PM as well.. no need for that cos sure walkover 
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Dear SuayKia,
Everybody just think that you can't win LKY, but have you ever tried?
If you like to gamble a bit, sometimes, it is about "buao huang"! Many dictators, past and present, all use the similar tactic; twenty years ago, many people in Indonesia also think they can't win Suharto. Many people in Manila also think that they can't win Marcos.
Nobody thought the Communist regimes in East Europe will ever be won over.
I think it is just a matter of time of evolution; even if we really cannot win LKY in his lifetime, the Natural law of birth, age, illness and death will take care of that. Nobody could possibly be above this Law of Natural; impermanence.
Many people think that PAP is very solid and strong, but my prediction is that it will take less than 15 years for it to experience total collapse and decay, if they are not going to do something about it. Ironically, it will be the GRC system that will do them in!
PAP is fast becoming like a snail. Hard shell on the outside, soft like toufu in the inside. Why? All thanks to the GRC system. A warrior that doesn't fight any war before, no matter how many "simulated" trainings he has, he will never become a great warrior.
It is in fact a sign of WEAKNESS that PAP keeps trying to avoid fighting and avoid the failures and loosing seats. Loosing small number of seats isn't a big deal and not the end of the world yet! The fight and struggle continues! It is the process and experience that is valuable, not the results alone. It is truly a sign of WEAKNESS when PAP tried everything all it could to avoid loosing; redrawing of boundaries, breaking up "danger" zones like ChengSan, Anson, Braddel Heights.... using HDB upgrading as carrots. You see, these are all signs of weaknesses. If you are good and convincing enough, you do not need to use HDB upgrading as carrot! If you are really good, you could have worked even harder in those "danger zones" to regain the respect, confidence and most importantly votes from the voters. By practically "running" away from the difficult fights demonstrated two characteristic of the present PAP. First, they are weak, really not good enough and lack the confidence to fight a difficult battle. Secondly, they are getting overly complacent, always thinking of the easier way out. It is just like soldiers who like to "geng", avoid difficult trainings and such; how could such soldiers be great warriors in battles?
Thus, the trend for PAP is only regressive until doom. Cannot win LKY? You must be joking. Sooner or Later, we will win the weaklings that he has cultivated throughout his political carreer! That will be his greatest mistake he had ever made in his life.
Goh Meng SengOriginally posted by SibeiSuayKia:Chee is fighting a battle he can't win..
What makes you think that Chee won't be assasinated by ISD?
LKY is the LAW , much more powerful control then what Mahathir has..
tens of thousands of people dared to protest against Mahathir during last time DPM Anwar's sacking
You dare to play with the CJ Yong Pung How? He's LKY classmate..
Basically you can't win LKY , even USA can do anything during michael fay crisis.
Chee is basically dumb, he should wait longer.
Singapore's Press doesn't give coverage to him,
People here are quite happy ..kinda ok..
Singapore's Press are full of propaganda and doesn't report on the good things of "Chee"
All the bad points of "Chee" got marked out.
Don't Believe What You see ON SPH's report on Chee other then the televised one , they are probably lying.
When did i see the last official paper that criticized the govt or whatever policies?
HaHaHa. Even if Chee get control of SPH, he also would be sacked by the main shareholder which is temasek holdings. -
You know the oldman got a famous saying"I rather other ppl to fear me than to respect me".Well,now he is half succeeded,becoz now ppl really dont respect him,but nor do they fear him,THEY HATED HIM!!!
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You have met his father before ? Is he supportive of his son entering politics ?Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:Laser, ive met his dad before..
His dad is in a very-sad state..his son and daughter busy campaigning and doing stuffs in USA...now left in Old Folks home..
I spoke to him..and his dad were kinda sad as well for him..
Think Chee should think more about his domestic stuff , rather then outside stuff..he's father is in a sick condition now..
How can a man who doesn't treat his father well be in-charge of the nation ?
Aniwae, shall save my vote for a really really good guy!
I don't like the way Chee insulted our SM and MM during last election..
$17 billion dollar....LOL
Think Chee should become a MP first and know what is going on before firing off his mouth.
At least I believe Chiam See Tong is not bad
he doesn't speak bad of the PM as well..
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u guy had underestimates the PAP woman vote..
i have do a project on it.. 80.2% lady vote fell in PAP .
75.8 % of old people vote (60yr old) fell o PAP.
(sch project)
PAP will only fell from the young GEN when singapore MOE delete the topic about Singapore independent, avoid to let them know how PAP had lead singaporean at the hardest time. -
Which group support the PAP least ?Originally posted by paperduck:u guy had underestimates the PAP woman vote..
i have do a project on it.. 80.2% lady vote fell in PAP .
75.8 % of old people vote (60yr old) fell o PAP.
(sch project)
PAP will only fell from the young GEN when singapore MOE delete the topic about Singapore independent, avoid to let them know how PAP had lead singaporean at the hardest time.
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this one i dont take note..Originally posted by paperchicken:Which group support the PAP least ?
1 thing i know for sure, many SSM (gangster), ppl who been to jail and their family will hate PAP. -
Some ppl here hate PAP ...........Originally posted by paperduck:this one i dont take note..
1 thing i know for sure, many SSM (gangster), ppl who been to jail and their family will hate PAP. -
that chee soon juan's father is old..Originally posted by paperchicken:You have met his father before ? Is he supportive of his son entering politics ?
but he keep on complaining about last time..during the votes etc...
yeap he is still anti-pap..
keep saying that this place PAP..all
no true democracy..etc..
he still believes he is right..
and leh that old man support his son..
but leh..his son doesn't look like a good person..
i got a photo of myself with his dad LOL..
as well..haha..hope i dun kana arrest by ISD lol!!
Everyday, chee soon juan's father lives so lonely in the old folks home..
every old pple i spoke to ..sounds very depressed..haiz..
got 1 old man china guy says he want to go back to China and ..
die peacefully..
If only i got money..then i could have fulfilled his wishes..
yes SBSK here has served in old folks home before! -
of cos.. cos LEE always CON their money and also no mercy.. thats why his nick is call God of No-Mercy ( Lee Con You )Originally posted by paperchicken:Some ppl here hate PAP ........... -
then nothing wrong with Chee going to states and leaving his father there since he support him.Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:that chee soon juan's father is old..
but he keep on complaining about last time..during the votes etc...
yeap he is still anti-pap..
keep saying that this place PAP..all
no true democracy..etc..
he still believes he is right..
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Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:
Why is CSJ's dad in the present situation living in an 'Old Folks' Home ?
Laser, ive met his dad before..
His dad is in a very-sad state..his son and daughter busy campaigning and doing stuffs in USA...now left in Old Folks home..
I spoke to him..and his dad were kinda sad as well for him..
Think Chee should think more about his domestic stuff , rather then outside stuff..he's father is in a sick condition now..
How can a man who doesn't treat his father well be in-charge of the nation ?
Aniwae, shall save my vote for a really really good guy!
I don't like the way Chee insulted our SM and MM during last election..
$17 billion dollar....LOL
Think Chee should become a MP first and know what is going on before firing off his mouth.
At least I believe Chiam See Tong is not bad
he doesn't speak bad of the PM as well..
What happen to his mom and his dad ?
Was his dad moved to an "Old Folk's Home" - as is very common nowadays when the smaller and more expensive HDB flats (compared to HDB units sold in the 1970s, 80's and 90's) cannot accomodate everyone from such a big family ?
How many siblings are there in Chee's family ?
Do you know enough of the family to qualify making such an oblique statement about Chee and his Sister neglecting their dad, while busy campaigning ?
Such are the pitiful standards of looking at the Opposition Members.
Why did you not bring up the subject of how MM LKY treated his dad ?
On the same criteria imposed on CSJ, should anyone respect LKY when he treated his dad so poorly during his dad's lifetime ?
Or have I made an error in judgment from those LKY autobiographies that published such information from privileged sources ?
I have seen Chiam See Tong at the Ritz Carlton, walking "arm-linked-in- arm" with a PAP MP, after exiting from some dinner function commemorating some Parliamentary events.
Now is that not a picture of a very cosy relationship of peaceful co-existence that give way to one another.
Question is: will this 'old boy' cosy relationship extend to an arrangement of not embarrassing each other, and to the extent of not pursuing issues of public interest in deference to such a cosy relationship ? -
chee sj basically is a mad man lar..
wanna play politics also need timing.....
imagine if Anwar had came up at a later timing..would be PM liao..
his father is in old folks home..
tell u all a secret..NO JOKE now
some usa guys and western guys do visit his father now and then..
cause ive been serving there for quite some time..
(dunno for what purpose lar..)
in case if u dun trust me..
i can send u the pictures as well..
his father is in a old folks home somewhere around eastern part of SG..
=p dats all i can say...
not far from eunos