KL Govt stops Causeway project
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The causeway bridge is not practical and will not serve the purpose as intended by Malaysia because the channel would be too shallow and height clearance too restricted for larger vessels.
The more practical options are many. Both governments should study options like enclosing the whole straits like the future Kallang Basin to provide a source of future water supply for both countries.
Another idea is to build underground tunnels to link major monorail and undersea cities which according to reliable sources are nowadays possible. Undersea cities will help to save on land reclaiming costs.
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Are you from SMRT of government to earn more money? Even though if we able to get the future link to malaysia and further, who is going to bear the cost for the everyday transit of the Causeway? Its the citizen of singapore and JB not the government or SMRT!!!!!Originally posted by robertteh:Singapore needs hinterland which will provide greater resources, cheaper labor and water to provide for our needs of a projected 5 million population.
If Malaysia is to suspend or cancell the causeway bridge project, well we may leave it at that to avoid incurring higher costs to our economy.
On the other hand, if they are serious on building a causeway bridge, we can capitalize on it and try to propose an MRT system to link up the whole peninsula up to Thailand in a bigger rail system to integrate Singapore to the whole hinterland.
Conditions for agreeing to causeway bridge can include: Future linking of MRT of Singapore to rail or fast-speed monorail which will join to Thailand, Indo-China and China. It is then worth our while to pay for additional costs due to causeway bridge.
Yup, only small vessel can pass through. Not those tanker or container liner. Futhermore it is hazzardous if ship are that close to mainland. pollution, accident like sleeping captain knocking into the bridge...etc.Originally posted by robertteh:The causeway bridge is not practical and will not serve the purpose as intended by Malaysia because the channel would be too shallow and height clearance too restricted for larger vessels.
imagine more than 10 storey high of vessels passing on the spore-malaysia straits that is so small and narrow for them... the view...... so scaring.... -
To: Little Tiger,
Nope, not from SMRT or government, but just a kay-po. Singapore could gain an imaginary hinterland up north all the way to China if fast monorail becomes a reality.
Mind you, our small island will no longer be that small if it is well connected by fast trains to many northern cities and countries within hours.
If our small island is connected to cheaper labor due to mass travels our underground MRT will become feasible. The road causeway can be kept for heavy transport. Such fast speed train will offer greater incentive to Thailand to trade through with more countries through our sea terminal and Trade will grows with Northenn China. -
But now.... airlines are cheaper than coach and trains.
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extend mrt from woodlands to jb lor. woodlands causeway point-- new station woodlands immigration (clear immigration)-- new station jb immigration-- jb kota raya..........stupid idea?
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Cheap air tickets compared to bus or train, depending on your destination that is. Say if you want to go to KL, taking train or bus is definitely cheaper. Furthermore, the bus or train fare is consistent throughout most of the year, whereas air tickets fluctuates and does not include airport tax, insurance, security tax and fuel surcharge. If you talk about LCC, the later you book your tickets, the more expensive it gets.
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-------Originally posted by [ Neo ]:They finally realized how silly and negative that curved bridge's construction is going impact on bilateral ties.
It's funny how we can all benefit from a significantly cheaper method of easing the daily tranffic on the Causeway when all the Malaysian Government needs to do is to agree for our MRT line to be extended from either Kranji or Marsiling straight into the JB City district.
Oh well.
I think it is not so straight forward.
Just look at the amount of land owned by Malaysian government through the ownership of KTM (the railway line and stations).
Malaysian Government will not give up the Singapore land it owns easily. The price is not good enough. She will not let MRT into JB which will then lower the cost of the railway land she holds.
The daily traffic on the Causeway can be eased by improving the KTM line into Singapore, such as electrifying it, etc.
Singapore government will not allow Malaysian government / KTM to improve the railway line to Singapore by electrifying it etc. The more improvement is done the more difficult to remove them in time to come.
The government is having a headach in finding way to get back the land. -
Talking about KTMB land in Singapore, I think it will be a long time before Malaysia will handover the land ownership to Singapore. Recently, the Malaysian Government announced that it will refurbish the railway tracks in Singapore.
KTMB has also announced plans to introduce a new Shuttle Service between Singapore and JB. -
If Singapore keeps developing its MRT infrastructure including one that will serve woodlands or JB, the KTMB lands will be in a doldrums.Originally posted by Superbus:Talking about KTMB land in Singapore, I think it will be a long time before Malaysia will handover the land ownership to Singapore. Recently, the Malaysian Government announced that it will refurbish the railway tracks in Singapore.
KTMB has also announced plans to introduce a new Shuttle Service between Singapore and JB.
Sooner or later, KTMB will want to exchange its land with lands near to MRT woodland station which no doubt could become more and more valuable overtime. This strategy will be enough to make KTMB want to exchange its lands.