Why be a Singaporean?
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Because you are born in sg
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I am proud to be a singaporean..... I LOVE SINGAPOREEEEEEEE
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
If that happens, my answer is no
[b]"Will you still love singapore if there is no democracy tomorrow? Are you proud to be a singaporean?" -
Looking at many of those postings which concluded that there is no true democracy in singapore, you should not be in Singapore!!Originally posted by fymk:If that happens, my answer is no
Making judgement on what is good and bad is easy. Many theories exist only in ideal situation which does not exist. Talk is cheap!
Nothing is perfect, play your part in improving it so that those around you can be proud of you. -
Play your part well in improving singapore by voting for opposition to check on the government and getting more singaporean to support. That's the only thing we citizen can do if you going to stay.Originally posted by fymk:If that happens, my answer is no -
Let me share a cruel hard fact gathered that can be seen in singapore irregardless of individual opinion of being proud or not proud to be a singaporean.
The number of foreign talent in most company are growing relative to the local. Reason, most company especially mnc are employing cheap labour from oversea especially india to do project. They employ a fresh graduate from india which cost them only around SGD 800 per month compared to a fresh graduate from local university at around SGD 2k+. So for the pay of one local fresh graduate, they can get 3 indian to do the same jobs. Once these indian came over and learned all the required skill to replace singaporean. The project will be outsource to the indian team setup in india. Operation like call center, administrative, IT work, many more etc all shifted to india leaving singaporean jobless. That's why you hear retrenchment here and there. Furthermore, the foreign talent also came over to singapore to compete with the local for jobs that has not or cannot be shifted. They are hardworking, less demanding, no NS liability, willing to take a lower salary compared to singaporean. So why these pple are willing to take on such a lower salary?
Let's see some statistical comparison.
Comparison between indian and singaporean fresh engineering graduate.
Indian Fresh Grad
Expected salary range : SGD 800 - 2000
Total Education cost until Tertiary Pre-U Level : SGD 200+
Total 4 year University Fee in india (Gov Subsidized) : SGD 900+
Total 4 year University Fee in india (Private) : SGD 1400+
Cost of living in India : Low
Cost of Meal in India : SGD 0.20 per decent meal
Housing in India : SGD 20,000 for a landed property
NS Liability : No
Hardworking : Yes work days and night
Note : Their one month pay plus allowance in singapore will cover their 4 year tertiary education fee. It is no wonder these indian dare not spend too much in singapore while working in singapore.
Singaporean Fresh Grad
Expected salary range : SGD 2000 - 2500
Total 4 year University Fee in Singapore (Gov Subsidized) : SGD 20,000 +
Cost of living in Singapore : High
Cost of Meal in Singapore : SGD 2 per decent meal
Housing in Singapore: SGD 150k for a HDB Flat Leasing
NS Liability : Yes
Hardworking : Depend
How long will it take for a singaporean fresh grad to pay off his university fee?
Why be a singaporean? -
Originally posted by MYPR:
Hey come on how u compare Singapore with India a developed country with a developing country...
Let me share a cruel hard fact gathered that can be seen in singapore irregardless of individual opinion of being proud or not proud to be a singaporean.
The number of foreign talent in most company are growing relative to the local. Reason, most company especially mnc are employing cheap labour from oversea especially india to do project. They employ a fresh graduate from india which cost them only around SGD 800 per month compared to a fresh graduate from local university at around SGD 2k+. So for the pay of one local fresh graduate, they can get 3 indian to do the same jobs. Once these indian came over and learned all the required skill to replace singaporean. The project will be outsource to the indian team setup in india. Operation like call center, administrative, IT work, many more etc all shifted to india leaving singaporean jobless. That's why you hear retrenchment here and there. Furthermore, the foreign talent also came over to singapore to compete with the local for jobs that has not or cannot be shifted. They are hardworking, less demanding, no NS liability, willing to take a lower salary compared to singaporean. So why these pple are willing to take on such a lower salary?
Let's see some statistical comparison.
[b]Comparison between indian and singaporean fresh engineering graduate.
Indian Fresh Grad
Expected salary range : SGD 800 - 2000
Total Education cost until Tertiary Pre-U Level : SGD 200+
Total 4 year University Fee in india (Gov Subsidized) : SGD 900+
Total 4 year University Fee in india (Private) : SGD 1400+
Cost of living in India : Low
Cost of Meal in India : SGD 0.20 per decent meal
Housing in India : SGD 20,000 for a landed property
NS Liability : No
Hardworking : Yes work days and night
Note : Their one month pay plus allowance in singapore will cover their 4 year tertiary education fee. It is no wonder these indian dare not spend too much in singapore while working in singapore.
Singaporean Fresh Grad
Expected salary range : SGD 2000 - 2500
Total 4 year University Fee in Singapore (Gov Subsidized) : SGD 20,000 +
Cost of living in Singapore : High
Cost of Meal in Singapore : SGD 2 per decent meal
Housing in Singapore: SGD 150k for a HDB Flat Leasing
NS Liability : Yes
Hardworking : Depend
How long will it take for a singaporean fresh grad to pay off his university fee?
Why be a singaporean?[/b]
then y dont u cmpare malaysia with singapore. The foold there are dame cheap
Then y dont u compare yr parents with other ppl parents..
By the way i working in MNC comapany there is a lot of indians over here but their boss is often a Singaporean.....
and most impt singapore has limited resources and limited land how can u compare with INDIA.....
use yr common sense pls... -
Based on your reply. You seem very proud or should i say arrogant to be a singaporean? that's the common mistake of singaporean.Originally posted by force83:Hey come on how u compare Singapore with India a developed country with a developing country...
then y dont u cmpare malaysia with singapore. The foold there are dame cheap
Then y dont u compare yr parents with other ppl parents..
By the way i working in MNC comapany there is a lot of indians over here but their boss is often a Singaporean.....
and most impt singapore has limited resources and limited land how can u compare with INDIA.....
use yr common sense pls...
i presumed you are among the boss.
If you are the boss, would you employ cheaper foreign labour in comparison for the local fresh grad. Think ahead for your younger generation if you are a father. -
Hohohoho! how do you jump to conclude that a singaporean who is proud of his country is an arrogant singaporean!!! You mean we cannot be proud of our country or we will be deemed arrogant?Originally posted by MYPR:Based on your reply. You seem very proud or should i say arrogant to be a singaporean? that's the common mistake of singaporean.
i presumed you are among the boss.
If you are the boss, would you employ cheaper foreign labour in comparison for the local fresh grad. Think ahead for your younger generation if you are a father.
No wonder your boss need to employ foreigners!!
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he can be proud of his country but not too proud and hence being arrogant looking down on others. It is always good to be humble.Originally posted by sgdiehard:Hohohoho! how do you jump to conclude that a singaporean who is proud of his country is an arrogant singaporean!!! You mean we cannot be proud of our country or we will be deemed arrogant?
No wonder your boss need to employ foreigners!!
My boss definitely preferred foreigners or else why employ so much of indian instead of local singaporean? I was presenting a cruel hard fact of the employment situation in singapore. Hope you will feel it if you had even started your real working life or unless you are a boss yourself, then it will be a different story. The government here bend for bosses. -
It looks like you just conclude that it is better to be born an Indian in India??!!Originally posted by MYPR:Based on your reply. You seem very proud or should i say arrogant to be a singaporean? that's the common mistake of singaporean.
i presumed you are among the boss.
If you are the boss, would you employ cheaper foreign labour in comparison for the local fresh grad. Think ahead for your younger generation if you are a father.
I would expect my son to accept reality, learn to love who he is and make the best of what he is given. Not spending his time grumbling and complaining when he is obviously luckier than 99% of the world population who are born into poverty without even a roof. -
Did i conclude that it is better to be borned as indian in india or you? The conclusion is best not to be a singaporean. You get squeezed by your own government while the FT are eating up all the pie.Originally posted by Qitai:It looks like you just conclude that it is better to be born an Indian in India??!!
I would expect my son to accept reality, learn to love who he is and make the best of what he is given. Not spending his time grumbling and complaining when he is obviously luckier than 99% of the world population who are born into poverty without even a roof.
As for your son, good luck for his career then. Hope he will find a job that cannot be replaced by FT. But are there so many such jobs vacancy waiting for him by the time he graduated from his highly subsidized tertiary education? Will he be willing take on the low starting salary then? -
I din see any sentence in force83's posting that is "looking down on others." Be humble is good, be arrogant is bad, not proud of who you are and where you belong is ugly!Originally posted by MYPR:he can be proud of his country but not too proud and hence being arrogant looking down on others. It is always good to be humble.
My boss definitely preferred foreigners or else why employ so much of indian instead of local singaporean? I was presenting a cruel hard fact of the employment situation in singapore. Hope you will feel it if you had even started your real working life or unless you are a boss yourself, then it will be a different story. The government here bend for bosses.
The world is cruel, lives are hard, government don care, but complaining won't work. Don't depend on the government for everything that need to be done or blame the government for things not done (these are the typical singaporean behavior.) It is your life and you have to make it work.
You are either in the IT industry or cleaning industry where bosses like to employ indian, or your boss is an indian himself. Lucky you are still looking at the indians from inside, end of the day you still get a salary?
I have my own company, so I am my boss
, but not making money 
so.... -
MYPR,
I support your stand and conviction which i find more actual then the antis.
Btw, do remember this - not all forumers are Singaporeans.
There are many PRs and foreign workers in here too.
So, you can expect some sort of angry or negative reaction from them when talk about Foreign 'talent' ('talent' - a misnomer) -
You seem very proud or should i say arrogant to be a singaporean? that's the common mistake of singaporean.
Most important i am not ARROGANT SINGAPOREAN!!!! I am just saying out the truth...By the way do u know what is the meaning of TRUTH!!!! So plsss dun assume i am arrogant.The conclusion is best not to be a singaporean. You get squeezed by your own government while the FT are eating up all the pie.
By the way your conclusion is best not to be a Singaporean... Do u know that there is a lot of ppl wanted to be a Singaporean because Singapore has a good economy and most of all we don't have natural disasters unlike other countries... And u had mention about FT. I believe every countries need FT. EG: Holland need a lot of FT in IT industry so would you say that over there you also get squeezed by their government while the FT are eating up all their pie!!!
It depends individual how much effort they willingly to put in and how hardworking they are.. Why dont you say there is also a lot of Singaporeans in the society who is very successful and better than those FT...But are there so many such jobs vacancy waiting for him by the time he graduated from his highly subsidized tertiary education? Will he be willing take on the low starting salary then?
Come on, if the person was excellent in his/her studies in tertiary. Of course if i am the empolyer i will hire him. If his attitude is poor though his studies is excellent, i wouldnt hire him at all. So it really depends on discipline. Applies to foreign also
The low starting pay is all taken up by all yr fellow indian mates so only left high pay job for singaporeans haaa....
Most of all i think ur intention is to tell ppl not to be a Singaporean... So wat for u r in Singapore right now. just move to other place u like to be in.. I not sure if u r a Singaporean.. If u r, we all feel so sorry of u as you does not know how to enjoy in Singapore and only know KBKB here and there. -
Play your part well in improving singapore by voting for opposition to check on the government and getting more singaporean to support. That's the only thing we citizen can do if you going to stay.
duh. you sound so immature saying this.
if the opposition wants us to vote for them, get them to show us the goods first. no use trying to present us with a "disloyalty to singapore" threat if you do not vote for the opposition.
anyway simply said, i do not see why the govt deserves a change. you think govt like underwear arh? you don't like the colour and than you change. pls, the changing of the govt brings about deeper repercussion that you think it would. the PAP has dealings with the govt of the world for more than 40 years. you think it will be that easy for the opposition govt to achieve? and if the PAP really falls from power, i can assure you that life in singapore would be harder than before. if CSJ can send a letter to AI asking for help, i would expect to see smth like that when the Opposition takes over the govt. they must have self-reliancy and not depend on other people when they get into trouble.
i'm 16, and proud of it. you're probably much older. but you fail to see the bigger picture. -
It's true that in force83's posting there is no sentence "looking down on others" That is the reason why i used "it seem". But what is so great about developed country in comparison with developing country that we cannot compare the workers from both of them. Both compete for same jobs in singapore, none inferior compared to the other one. One get the jobs with lower expectation because the low salary is considered high for him in his hometown while the other has to carry the burden of the high cost of living in singapore.Originally posted by sgdiehard:I din see any sentence in force83's posting that is "looking down on others." Be humble is good, be arrogant is bad, not proud of who you are and where you belong is ugly!
The world is cruel, lives are hard, government don care, but complaining won't work. Don't depend on the government for everything that need to be done or blame the government for things not done (these are the typical singaporean behavior.) It is your life and you have to make it work.
You are either in the IT industry or cleaning industry where bosses like to employ indian, or your boss is an indian himself. Lucky you are still looking at the indians from inside, end of the day you still get a salary?
I have my own company, so I am my boss , but not making money so....
The world is cruel and hard. lives are hard for singaporean in singapore when the goverment don care. Should they care? They are paid a million dollar salary to sit around and let the citizen to make it work?
I am in the IT industry where foreign bosses like to employ foreign talent esp indian to cut cost. End of day i still get a salary. But how long do you think this will last?
It is great that you own a company being your own boss. I believe you should know how difficult it is to earn a living in singapore by now. So what's the main reason for you difficulty in making money in singapore, just curious to know. Do you hire singaporean or cheap foreign labour then? -
Did you ever study geography before? Did you teacher ever compare a developed country with a developing country? Eg. You yrself now comparing with a ugly person beside you. You wish to be uglier than him. Does it make sense at all?? Then y dont u say in EUROPE they paying higher taxes and GST than us.... They have to carry more burden... Their cost of living is expensive also..It's true that in force83's posting there is no sentence "looking down on others" That is the reason why i used "it seem". But what is so great about developed country in comparison with developing country that we cannot compare the workers from both of them. Both compete for same jobs in singapore, none inferior compared to the other one. One get the jobs with lower expectation because the low salary is considered high for him in his hometown while the other has to carry the burden of the high cost of living in singapore.?
Hey just to tell u y u keep on mentioning IT industry. Y don't u say in IT industry there is also a lot of singaporeans working too. Y don't u say in business lines there is very little of Indians. Does it means Indians are more stupid in business lines?? I think the whole problem lies on yrself. Is you who does not know how to upgrade yrself. U can upgrade yrself by studying more courses. Pls don't blame on Singaporeans and don't blame on FT. You can only blame yrself being such a useless guy. If you know FT's skills is catching up on you, you should upgarde yrself more and not grumbling around. Just to tell you if i am the empolyer i would rather hire singaporean than foreigner. Do u think that hiring foreigner is so cheap??? I don't think so. I think u better ask you company boss before you come to this forum. If yes, it maybe yr company practice. Just for your info in MNC, those FT are being highly paid. What if those foreign labour is so cheap, doesnt mean that their work efficiency is high...
The world is cruel and hard. lives are hard for singaporean in singapore when the goverment don care. Should they care? They are paid a million dollar salary to sit around and let the citizen to make it work?
I am in the IT industry where foreign bosses like to employ foreign talent esp indian to cut cost. End of day i still get a salary. But how long do you think this will last?
It is great that you own a company being your own boss. I believe you should know how difficult it is to earn a living in singapore by now. So what's the main reason for you difficulty in making money in singapore, just curious to know. Do you hire singaporean or cheap foreign labour then? -
Most important i am not ARROGANT SINGAPOREAN!!!! I am just saying out the truth...By the way do u know what is the meaning of TRUTH!!!! So plsss dun assume i am arrogant.
It is good that you are not arrogant then
By the way your conclusion is best not to be a Singaporean... Do u know that there is a lot of ppl wanted to be a Singaporean because Singapore has a good economy and most of all we don't have natural disasters unlike other countries... And u had mention about FT. I believe every countries need FT. EG: Holland need a lot of FT in IT industry so would you say that over there you also get squeezed by their government while the FT are eating up all their pie!!!
How many is your "alot of pple"? Of all the FTs i know, none willing to take up
citizenship citing it will be a stupid move. As for some country, do you know they put restriction on the min no of local that should at least be employed to protect their citizen? Welfare and lots of benefits are returned and given to the citizen after squeezing from the working lots thru heavy tax.
It is true that how much effort individual willingly to put in and how hardworking they are depend on themselve. But can singaporean be unaffected by local liability e.g. NS Liability, family problems etc? Do you think you can work day and nite from 8am till 11pm at nite like the FT as if no life? Are you that hardworking enuff to compete with them? Once again, your "alot of singaporean" is how many?
It depends individual how much effort they willingly to put in and how hardworking they are.. Why dont you say there is also a lot of Singaporeans in the society who is very successful and better than those FT...
Why do the government have to import FT then?Come on, if the person was excellent in his/her studies in tertiary. Of course if i am the empolyer i will hire him. If his attitude is poor though his
lol. So how many high pay jobs are available for singaporean to take on then? how about fresh singaporean grad? How about you? Having a high pay job? I have an example, a 2nd class honour engineering fresh grad who cannot find a job and have to work as front desk bank officer for a salary of SGD 1600. How long is she going to take to pay off her SGD 20K+ education loan. The indian FT with a salary of min SGD 900 will be able to pay off his/her 4 years tertiary education.
studies is excellent, i wouldnt hire him at all. So it really depends on discipline. Applies to foreign also
The low starting pay is all taken up by all yr fellow indian mates so only left
high pay job for singaporeans haaa....
Who will you employ as an employer in singapore, a SGD 900 FT or a SGD 2500 fresh grad from local university? For your info, companies e.g. like mine had stop hiring local fresh grad even those who had being attached to the company during their IA and just hired 12 indians to take over a big project for local bank. Lots of jobs application with decorated resume from local are not even set eye upon by the management.Most of all i think ur intention is to tell ppl not to be a Singaporean...
I am here because of my parent who are stuck here in singapore. And letting the others esp innocent youngster know of the cruel hard facts in singapore is KBKB to you? You will be surprised how singaporean youngster thought that they are in good hand under the government rule dreaming after going to local university, they will get a good jobs leading a comfortable life. They do not see the ugly side of unemployment and retrenchment that is going on in singapore. University fresh grad have resort to taking on odd unwanted jobs with low salary after paying so much for the HIGHLY SUBSIDIZED tertiary education because the FT win over their desired jobs. Highly paid Manager got retrenched and have to drive taxi around to feed his family and pay for the HIGHLY SUBSIDIZED inflated HDB flat that they leased for 99 years.
So wat for u r in Singapore right now. just move to other place u like to be in..
I not sure if u r a Singaporean.. If u r, we all feel so sorry of u as you does
not know how to enjoy in Singapore and only know KBKB here and there. -
You are in IT industry rite? you should know the trends. And this trend is slowly spreading to other sectors not only in IT industry as well. Admin, Call center, business management, finance etc. What you can do, the FT can learn to do it. So don't be too proud. By the way, how old are you and how long you being working to know your fact? Have you ever survey around since you are asking so many what if? As an employer under such a economic condition where cost matter, do you think it make sense to hire singaporean with liability rather than cheap foreigner who worked longer hour than you do?Originally posted by force83:Hey just to tell u y u keep on mentioning IT industry. Y don't u say in IT industry there is also a lot of singaporeans working too. Y don't u say in business lines there is very little of Indians. Does it means Indians are more stupid in business lines?? I think the whole problem lies on yrself. Is you who does not know how to upgrade yrself. U can upgrade yrself by studying more courses. Pls don't blame on Singaporeans and don't blame on FT. You can only blame yrself being such a useless guy. If you know FT's skills is catching up on you, you should upgarde yrself more and not grumbling around. Just to tell you if i am the empolyer i would rather hire singaporean than foreigner. Do u think that hiring foreigner is so cheap??? I don't think so. I think u better ask you company boss before you come to this forum. If yes, it maybe yr company practice. Just for your info in MNC, those FT are being highly paid. What if those foreign labour is so cheap, doesnt mean that their work efficiency is high...
Do you have to resort to personal attack? It's true hard fact that you see out there in your working environment? There is no What if. You can do a survey or ask the FT or the boss themselve. -
Originally posted by force83:
Ugly person? what an extreme word to use. Did i mentioned that i am comparing myself with the person beside me? These FT came in as fresh graduate taking the jobs supposingly available for local fresh graduate. And that is wat i am comparing.
Did you ever study geography before? Did you teacher ever compare a developed country with a developing country? Eg. You yrself now comparing with a ugly person beside you. You wish to be uglier than him. Does it make sense at all?? Then y dont u say in EUROPE they paying higher taxes and GST than us.... They have to carry more burden... Their cost of living is expensive also..
In EUROPE, the pay is also high and their welfare is also good amid disadvantages of a higher taxes and GST. The problems is you do not see lots of them coming over to singapore to compete with the local for jobs. Is there a point to compare with them? -
Hi, Mr 16 years old who see the big picture. I would like to do some survey.Originally posted by runningismylife:duh. you sound so immature saying this.
if the opposition wants us to vote for them, get them to show us the goods first. no use trying to present us with a "disloyalty to singapore" threat if you do not vote for the opposition.
anyway simply said, i do not see why the govt deserves a change. you think govt like underwear arh? you don't like the colour and than you change. pls, the changing of the govt brings about deeper repercussion that you think it would. the PAP has dealings with the govt of the world for more than 40 years. you think it will be that easy for the opposition govt to achieve? and if the PAP really falls from power, i can assure you that life in singapore would be harder than before. if CSJ can send a letter to AI asking for help, i would expect to see smth like that when the Opposition takes over the govt. they must have self-reliancy and not depend on other people when they get into trouble.
i'm 16, and proud of it. you're probably much older. but you fail to see the bigger picture.
So what are you studying now? What's your future like? Planning to go university then? What kind of job do you think you can get by the time you graduated? How much starting salary do you think you should get then? Are you prepared to work long working hour? -
I am a FT of USA. Working for a USA firm from Singapore. Why worry about FT. Be one yourself.
The way to compete is not to ask your competitor not to compete with you, but to improve yourself so that you win the race.
Malaysia has proven protection policy (bumiputra policy) only makes the people weaker rather than strenghtening them. In the longer run, the whole country will collapse due to not being competitive.
Competition makes one stronger. Protectionism makes people weak. I do not like being a weakling. I fight when challenged. I do not asked to penalized my opponent just so that I can win. I improve my skill until I can win my opponent. Have you become too weak and dependent? -
The world has changed, MYPR. Social fabric has been torn apart because of differences in religion, politics and foreign influence. Family values have changed because of the different education your parents received and what you were taught, or not taught. Foreign influences coming into you living rooms and bed rooms directly via two boxes, yr TV and yr computer monitor. There is nothing we can do about it but to recognise it, face it, and think how can we handle it. Running away, don't be singaporean will not solve your problem.Originally posted by MYPR:Ugly person? what an extreme word to use. Did i mentioned that i am comparing myself with the person beside me? These FT came in as fresh graduate taking the jobs supposingly available for local fresh graduate. And that is wat i am comparing.
In EUROPE, the pay is also high and their welfare is also good amid disadvantages of a higher taxes and GST. The problems is you do not see lots of them coming over to singapore to compete with the local for jobs. Is there a point to compare with them?
What affect our job is globalization, including fund management which racked havoc to the financial systems in Asia in 1997. Few years ago, Nike moved all the shoes manufacturing to Indonesia, created jobs for thousands of indonesia who left their farms to work for a better living. After one year, or slightly more, Nike found Vietnam cheaper so the orders went to Vietnam, leaving 7000 indonesians out of job! could go back to farming because their farms had been left unattended for too long. They went on to the streets to demonstrate but what could the government do?
It is known that many IT jobs moved to India and the Philippines. Many MNC regional HQ moved from LA to HK then to singapore and now to Shanghai. What can we do?
European don't have it good because of the great influx of cheap labour from eastern europe and north africa. Ever heard of any angmoh expatriates who came here return home happily? Ever heard of angmoh who went for their summer vacation and return to office only to find out that they have been replaced? I tell you, there are plenty of cases like this. That is why today nobody talks about loyalty to your companies anymore.
Foreign fund managers came in to singapore and brought up the share prices and many singaporean followed. When they pulled out, the STI dropped like crazy and there goes our hard earned money. What can we do? don't invest in stock?
There is nothing we can do to all these! This damn situation was created by the american, the very one who claimed to be democratic and value human rights. To them those who have money to invest have the first right to the money the companies make; the workers who work for a living comes later. So if return of investment is not there, workers are retrenched. Unfortunately singaporean companies, even SIA and SATS follow. They announced making so much money, then announced retrenching so many workers to save so much money. There is a lot of hypocrisy in the American system!! True democracy or not I don't know but human rights is double standard
But what can we do?
The bosses first priority is to make profit, evil or not. Employing FT who are cheap but useless, or locals who are expansive but productive, is entirely up to them. That is why they are called Boss!! But what if the FT are cheap and productive or the locals are expansive and useless? Beware, there are billions of Chinese and Indians, not to mention Philippinos (who also speak good english), Taiwanese, Indonesian, Malaysian who are catching up fast!! The chinese says, "Bu Shi Men Long Bu Guo Jiang", which means you have to be a fierce dragon to swim across the river. These FT did not wait for their government to give them job in singapore, they swam across!!
If you are young, you can learn, you can go places. "Dong jia bu da da xi jia." i.e. if you don't work here you can work elsewhere. There may be short term setback but have faith in yourself, be hopeful, stay healthy, keep you debt low and manageable. The future is still bright for you. Don't wait for the government, for goodness sake!!
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Hi, Mr 16 years old who see the big picture. I would like to do some survey.
likewise you're equally ignorant. even in switzerland, economical landscapes are bound to change. so what is there to confirm that what i want to be would be there in 10 years time?
So what are you studying now? What's your future like? Planning to go university then? What kind of job do you think you can get by the time you graduated? How much starting salary do you think you should get then? Are you prepared to work long working hour?
btw, even God can't guarantee your starting pay in 10 years time.
btw just to fulfil your survey: i'm in Special stream. my future would be great. i would go to a foreign university under a scholarship. and i think i should have a minimum wage of $1500amonth, and i believe with hard work comes a great future. so wad do u think?
btw if i'm ur typical singaporean nerd. nah i guess you'd wrong. i have a long history of disciplinary problems regardless of the school i am in. i am a compulsive gambler who happens to love betting with singapore pools with the help of my parents.
and yes, regardless of this, i'm still with the PAP. you could say that to me, the opposition stink.