Is it true that the constituition was changed?
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Im just wondering. Was the Constituition really changed such that the government is now able to transfer our country's national reserve without the approval from our president or head of state?
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http://www.bigo.com.sg/fooled/fooled.html
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Interpretations, escape clauses or exceptions are always problematic. Who should interpret areas where there is a likehood of prejudice or conflicts?
7 points of true democracy will ensure that there is no lack of accountability and transparency in giving interpretations on what can or cannot be transferred back to general reserve from locked reserve.
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" ItÂ’s been almost three and a half months since the PAP government amended a law [on April 19, 2004] permitting the transfer of $ingaporeÂ’s reserves to government companies and statutory boards without the need to get the presidentÂ’s approval. The Finance Ministry, headed by General Lee Hsien Loong, has said that the transferred money cannot be spent without the presidentÂ’s approval. The reason given for permitting the transfers is this: "at times, an activity or function would need to be transferred for the sake of 'efficiency or effectiveness'." There was no debate whatsoever in parliament despite the presence of two opposition MPs. In the past, former president Ong Teng Cheong had publicly stated he had difficulty getting the government to tell him exactly what was $ingaporeÂ’s reserves. MAS head, Finance Minister and Deputy Prime Minister General Lee becomes Prime Minister on Aug 12...... " (quote)
SHOCKING THAT IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING !!!
Whatever happened to all those wonderful speeches aboout proper procedures, checks and balances in our system to protect our CPF AND RESERVES ??? -
Somewhere this year.Originally posted by shade343:When did this take place?
It is reported in ST in a low profile.Originally posted by shade343:If it did took place, why wasnt this reported? -
[quote]Originally posted by miong:
The reason given for permitting the transfers is this: "at times, an activity or function would need to be transferred for the sake of 'efficiency or effectiveness ' [quote]
quite true for the very obvious reason.
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I have read the article. But where is the source from? How is it possible that The website know and majority dont know?Originally posted by Medicated Oil:http://www.bigo.com.sg/fooled/fooled.html
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read my post above. i read it from the ST.Originally posted by shade343:I have read the article. But where is the source from? How is it possible that The website know and majority dont know? -
Why WP's Low Thia Kiang never oppose in parliament ?
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You sure about that? And was he already a PM when it changes?Originally posted by sgsentinel:Why WP's Low Thia Kiang never oppose in parliament ? -
It was reported in the straits times? Under which column or article. Was the information obvious in the written article?
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if u doubt wat i hv said, why dun u write in to ST forum n ask?Originally posted by shade343:It was reported in the straits times? Under which column or article. Was the information obvious in the written article? -
Read for yourself.
Constitution of the Republic of Singapore (Amendment) Bill, Passed On 19 April 2004
http://www.parliament.gov.sg/Legislation/Htdocs/Bills/0400012.pdf -
fake opposition fail to keep govt in check ?Originally posted by miong:" ItÂ’s been almost three and a half months since the PAP government amended a law [on April 19, 2004] permitting the transfer of $ingaporeÂ’s reserves to government companies and statutory boards without the need to get the presidentÂ’s approval. The Finance Ministry, headed by General Lee Hsien Loong, has said that the transferred money cannot be spent without the presidentÂ’s approval. The reason given for permitting the transfers is this: "at times, an activity or function would need to be transferred for the sake of 'efficiency or effectiveness'." There was no debate whatsoever in parliament despite the presence of two opposition MPs. In the past, former president Ong Teng Cheong had publicly stated he had difficulty getting the government to tell him exactly what was $ingaporeÂ’s reserves. MAS head, Finance Minister and Deputy Prime Minister General Lee becomes Prime Minister on Aug 12...... " (quote)
SHOCKING THAT IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING !!!
Whatever happened to all those wonderful speeches aboout proper procedures, checks and balances in our system to protect our CPF AND RESERVES ??? -
hmm...let me go out of point...on 20 April 2004: Nicoll Highway Collapse....one day after the Constituition was amended.
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why fake opposition never come here to explain ?
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We were repeatedly told by PAP during General Elections that some opposition politicians were crooks (mostly unsubstantiated ), we are warned not to trust them with our reserves and national savings.
Today, I am beginning to wonder who is the greater evil ! -
We should never believe in the words of other, only judge them throguh their actions.Words are easily blown around, actions are concrete.Judge for yourself who has been walking the talk and who has been talking and not walking.
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Sorry for reviving this dead thread, but i just happened to come across this thread and am surprised that no one has linked to the Straits Times Article.Originally posted by shade343:Im just wondering. Was the Constituition really changed such that the government is now able to transfer our country's national reserve without the approval from our president or head of state?
When did this take place? If it did took place, why wasnt this reported?
Here it is:
Now...this is like camouflage 101.
More foreign-born kids to get citizenship
By Lydia Lim
PARLIAMENT yesterday approved changes to the Constitution that will enlarge the pool of overseas-born children who enjoy the right to Singapore citizenship by descent.
Children born abroad to Singaporean mothers will now enjoy the same right to citizenship by descent as those with Singaporean fathers.
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Children born overseas to Singapore citizens by descent will also qualify for citizenship. However, their parents must have lived in Singapore for a total of five years or more previously, or for at least two out of the five years before their birth.
The changes are a key plank in the Government's plan to boost the citizen population in the face of a baby shortage as the number of newborns plummeted to an all-time low of 36,000 last year.
Yesterday, Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Lee Hsien Loong said the moves are to update the citizenship laws, which have remained largely unchanged since the 1960s, as more citizens now work, study, live and start families abroad.
Indeed, between 2000 and 2002, the number of foreigners granted permanent residence under the sponsorship of their Singaporean spouse shot up from 4,000 to almost 5,800. The number of foreign-born children granted citizenship went up from 1,900 to 2,700 - by 41 per cent - between 1991 and last year.
The change in allowing citizenship by descent from female Singaporeans reflects the fact that many women are married and overseas 'but have parents here and they keep their links back here'.
Recognising that more people now need to travel for work, the residence requirements for permanent residents applying for citizenship have also been relaxed.
A PR needs to be resident here for at least two years before he can qualify to be a citizen. The maximum period he can be away during that time used to be six months. It is now 12 months.
During yesterday's debate, three women MPs cheered the fact that citizenship laws will now be gender neutral.
Miss Irene Ng (Tampines GRC) delivered an impassioned speech on equality for all citizens.
'Often we are told we live in a patriarchal society... but I just want to caution against using such cultural arguments to justify any unequal treatment of our citizens. In the long run, people will not accept that citizenship can be fully practised other than among equals.'
Replying, Mr Lee maintained that Singapore was still a patrilineal society. He cited as evidence the many women who ask their MPs for help after their husbands desert them and stop supporting the family. Few men do the same, he noted.
'But it is shifting gradually, so we are also shifting slightly less gradually,' he said.
Parliament passed five other amendments to the Constitution. One was a change to allow the transfer of reserves from the Government to organisations listed in the Fifth Schedule of the Constitution. The schedule is a list of statutory boards and government-linked companies whose reserves cannot be drawn down without the approval of the Elected President.
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Before you all start complaining, pls know that as long as PAP control more than 2/3 of the seats in Parliment. They can make as many changes to the consitution as they like.
Even if the 'fake' opposition opposed, wat can they do ??? complain onli lo but not enough votes to blocked.
Guys~ wat to do den ? -
It's devious and yet a grudging good form of political maneuvering.Originally posted by lwflee:Now...this is like camouflage 101. -
How do we judge when we cant even see what their actions are??? I dont think the government will make a big announcement on the should they want to transfer several hundred million dollars from the country's reserves to Temasek or any governtment Statutory boards?? Its bound to raise a few eyebrows...Originally posted by LazerLordz:We should never believe in the words of other, only judge them throguh their actions.Words are easily blown around, actions are concrete.Judge for yourself who has been walking the talk and who has been talking and not walking.