Are schools going the way of elitism ?
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Most of the top junior colleges have affiliated secondary schools. With the implementation of the 6 years course is it getting more difficult for students from neighbourhood school to enrol in them and get a place in local univercity ?
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Personaly i feel there`s nothing wrong w it..
perhaps maybe they can get away w the affilation advatage to entry in JC?
tt`ll be fair enough for most students -
but under current system if student from affiliated school dun work hard and do badly for the "O"- levels the place will be taken by students from neighbourhood schools who have performed better.Originally posted by BaByBoY:Personaly i feel there`s nothing wrong w it..
perhaps maybe they can get away w the affilation advatage to entry in JC?
tt`ll be fair enough for most students
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yupOriginally posted by paperchicken:but under current system if student from affiliated school dun work hard and do badly for the "O"- levels the place will be taken by students from neighbourhood schools who have performed better.
tt`s correct!
but i don really see a prob w tt??
if u study hard.. u`ll be enroled into it
unless u tell me u got 6 A1s in `o`lvls and good ECA record and cant get into top 5 JCs...
will tt be possible at all???? -
yah, it's indeed getting hard when ppl can't spell U N I V E R S I T YOriginally posted by paperchicken:s it getting more difficult for students from neighbourhood school to enrol in them and get a place in local univercity ? -
who har who har so toopid.Originally posted by FireIce:yah, it's indeed getting hard when ppl can't spell U N I V E R S I T Y
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It might possibly be so, since the quota for "external students" would probably be lowered.Originally posted by paperchicken:Most of the top junior colleges have affiliated secondary schools. With the implementation of the 6 years course is it getting more difficult for students from neighbourhood school to enrol in them and get a place in local univercity ? -
you lor you lor so toopaydOriginally posted by paperchicken:who har who har so toopid. -
like tat cannot go univercity liao.Originally posted by the.raven:you lor you lor so toopayd -
Yes. Its is getting more difficult.Originally posted by paperchicken:Most of the top junior colleges have affiliated secondary schools. With the implementation of the 6 years course is it getting more difficult for students from neighbourhood school to enrol in them and get a place in local univercity ? -
I have no comment on this topics since i left school very long liao,but i did come accross a little student girl,she will always come to our shop n buy sweet n stuff.She is i think primary 2 or 3,but her childhood face always look unhappy n quite sad.......i really feel pity for our kids here,"schooling" here must meant alot of pressure to them.....haiz.....
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what do you think when RJC students deride neighbourhood school students openly while showing their ignorance of things that are really happening in singapore?
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as a matter of fact, I think it comes from the Principal, this ang-moh guy who seems to have it stuck in his head that RJC is the world's best school.Originally posted by the Bear:what do you think when RJC students deride neighbourhood school students openly while showing their ignorance of things that are really happening in singapore?
take it from me, I'm a Rafflesian who is not-so-proud of my school.
the pikamaster -
Top school students may not necessarily do well. I know of some students from RI, RGS who don't do well in their "O' compared to kids from neighbourhood/ average schs.
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haha I got 8 A1s I pwn u.Originally posted by gerrykoh:Top school students may not necessarily do well. I know of some students from RI, RGS who don't do well in their "O' compared to kids from neighbourhood/ average schs. -
LOL why? cuz u sux?Originally posted by pikamaster:as a matter of fact, I think it comes from the Principal, this ang-moh guy who seems to have it stuck in his head that RJC is the world's best school.
take it from me, I'm a Rafflesian who is not-so-proud of my school.
the pikamaster -
Under the new system they may proceed to JC without taking "O"-level. This results in less places for good students from neighbourhood schools.Originally posted by gerrykoh:Top school students may not necessarily do well. I know of some students from RI, RGS who don't do well in their "O' compared to kids from neighbourhood/ average schs. -
then too bad, who ask them PSLE never do well. PSLE is a joke compared to O levels.Originally posted by paperchicken:Under the new system they may proceed to JC without taking "O"-level. This results in less places for good students from neighbourhood schools. -
Real world ......it's about money qualification. Got academic ? bonus but not essential ! Even hawker without education can be millionaire and drive mercedes... so what so special about RJC students?Originally posted by the Bear:what do you think when RJC students deride neighbourhood school students openly while showing their ignorance of things that are really happening in singapore? -
let's just say one only need look at the.raven's posts to see that he is actually inadvertantly arguing for the proposition of the subject by his attitude...
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What is the use of over-producing educated and highly educated waiting-to-be-employed or unemployed of the future?
It is far better to motivate a few more people to be Sim Wong Hoo by diversified real-time education.
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INTEGRATED PROGRAMMES
Make admissions more stringent
WITH more schools coming up with integrated programmes (IP), I am sure many are wondering if this revolutionary change in Singapore's education system will be a success.
The IP allows students from top secondary schools to bypass the O levels and head straight for the A levels.
A number of schools, such as those in the Raffles family, The Chinese High and ACS (Independent), are conducting individual Direct School Admissions processes and accepting students even before the Primary School Leaving Examination results have been released.
I am certain that the direct admissions process will give bright and conscientious students the chance to experience the broad-based curriculum and enriched syllabus of the IP.
Yet, as a member of the Education Ministry's Gifted Education Programme (GEP) and a participant of the Nanyang Girls' High IP, I cannot help but feel that my school is being jeopardised as I see other IP schools accepting up to 200 GEP pupils with an interview with the principal as the sole criterion.
In such cases, the number of places left for mainstream pupils is reduced greatly.
Allowing some to enter the IP without having to sit for any entrance exams discriminates against mainstream pupils.
It also leaves fewer bright pupils to join the IPs of other schools or to take the conventional O-level route.
Perhaps such schools would like to rethink their direct admissions process and make it more stringent.
After all, those who join the IP will need to be disciplined and focused.
What if a few 'bad eggs' are accidentally allowed into the IPs of these top schools?
The IP should be meant for diligent students who are university-bound and not just the brightest should be accepted.
One who joins the IP must be prepared to put much effort into his schoolwork; being smart without being hardworking will not be enough.
NICOLE WEE XIN-HUI (MISS) -
Scheme not what it's cracked up to be
SEEING many schools, especially the ones that offer the Integrated Programme, organising open houses, I decided to write this letter to express my views as an 'insider' for the benefit of Primary 6 pupils who are considering the programme.
What is so special about the Integrated Programme that it has attracted so much attention?
Of course, students in the programme will not need to take the O levels, enabling them to take part in 'experiential learning'.
However, having been in the programme for about a year, I have noticed that 'experiential learning' just seems to mean tons of mini-projects.
For example, during the recent September holidays, I had to do three mini-projects - one for geography, one for history and the last for English.
I wonder how such projects allow students to go through 'experiential learning'?
Many students, myself included, feel that these projects are just a half-hearted answer to the promised 'experiential learning', which can be carried out by organising more field trips that suit the curriculum.
For example, schools could organise field trips to a hydroponics farm when students are studying agriculture in their geography lessons. This would allow students to have a better understanding of the topic they are studying.
The Integrated Programme is also teaching far too many things, making the pace too fast. The programme merely does a whirlwind tour of each topic, then expects students to understand them thoroughly.
For example, our physics teacher taught us the topic of electricity in one hour!
My elder brother, who is not in the Integrated Programme, learnt about electricity in one fortnight. And even with that, he said that he needed one month to understand the subject fully.
I would also like to point out one major flaw of the Integrated Programme - the 'portfolio', which is supposed to be a collection of the student's best work.
However, how does it help the student?
The students I have spoken to about the portfolio take no pride in it because, to us, it is a waste of time to constantly update it.
Schools also claim that they are putting less emphasis on examinations and more on everyday work, so as to ensure consistency of performance.
However, this 'everyday work' refers to the tests conducted after each topic is taught.
We students feel that great emphasis is still being placed on tests and examinations.
I would like to conclude by saying that the Integrated Programme is not what most schools have described it to be but rather a half-hearted attempt to try to revolutionise the education landscape.
TAN HAO YANG -
Originally posted by The Barracuda:
sheesh, rafflesians call RP "really painful" programme, so there.
[b]INTEGRATED PROGRAMMES
Make admissions more stringent
WITH more schools coming up with integrated programmes (IP), I am sure many are wondering if this revolutionary change in Singapore's education system will be a success.
The IP allows students from top secondary schools to bypass the O levels and head straight for the A levels.
A number of schools, such as those in the Raffles family, The Chinese High and ACS (Independent), are conducting individual Direct School Admissions processes and accepting students even before the Primary School Leaving Examination results have been released.
I am certain that the direct admissions process will give bright and conscientious students the chance to experience the broad-based curriculum and enriched syllabus of the IP.
Yet, as a member of the Education Ministry's Gifted Education Programme (GEP) and a participant of the Nanyang Girls' High IP, I cannot help but feel that my school is being jeopardised as I see other IP schools accepting up to 200 GEP pupils with an interview with the principal as the sole criterion.
In such cases, the number of places left for mainstream pupils is reduced greatly.
Allowing some to enter the IP without having to sit for any entrance exams discriminates against mainstream pupils.
It also leaves fewer bright pupils to join the IPs of other schools or to take the conventional O-level route.
Perhaps such schools would like to rethink their direct admissions process and make it more stringent.
After all, those who join the IP will need to be disciplined and focused.
What if a few 'bad eggs' are accidentally allowed into the IPs of these top schools?
The IP should be meant for diligent students who are university-bound and not just the brightest should be accepted.
One who joins the IP must be prepared to put much effort into his schoolwork; being smart without being hardworking will not be enough.
NICOLE WEE XIN-HUI (MISS)
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the still-disgruntled Rafflesian (who does not sux) -
i definitely think so.
even the new "banding" system which replaces the old "ranking" system seems to suggest those IP schools are now too good to be put alongside and compared with the rest of the schools.
singapore is going to hell.
i wun be there.