Bomb threat onboard SIA?

• goh meng seng

  5 Oct 04, 16:49

  I cannot find similar news on Singapore's news agencies. What is happening?
  
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• paperchicken

  5 Oct 04, 17:22

  I think its an old piece of news. Its a hoax only. The person who made the prank call was caught and sentenced.
• goh meng seng

  5 Oct 04, 17:23

  It just happens yesterday and they already caught that person who made the prank call? Any news website I could confirm this?
  
  Goh Meng Seng
  
  

  Originally posted by paperchicken:

  I think its an old piece of news. Its a hoax only. The person who made the prank call was caught and sentenced.

• laurence82

  5 Oct 04, 17:24

  Originally posted by paperchicken:

  I think its an old piece of news. Its a hoax only. The person who made the prank call was caught and sentenced.

  I think this is another one. Saw it at ST todae...but they didnt reveal whats the cause..
• paperchicken

  5 Oct 04, 17:30

  Originally posted by goh meng seng:

  It just happens yesterday and they already caught that person who made the prank call? Any news website I could confirm this?
  
  Goh Meng Seng
  
  

  is it ? then must be another piece of news.
  
  Never heard anything in Singapore about the threat you mentioned.
• paperchicken

  5 Oct 04, 17:34

  Got it dated 4th Oct from ST Interactive.
  
  SIA flight diverted to UK airport after bomb threat
  
  MANCHESTER -- A Singapore Airlines passenger jet was diverted to Manchester Airport in northern England on Monday after a bomb threat, police said, adding that it may have been a hoax.
  
  The Frankfurt to New York flight landed safely at 11 am (1000 GMT) without a military escort, Greater Manchester Police said.
  
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  The pilot of Singapore Airlines flight SQ26 declared a 'full emergency' mid-flight, a spokesman for Manchester Airport said. The Boeing 747-400, bound for New York's JFK airport, was carrying 293 passengers and 19 crew.
  
  'Early indications are that it could be a hoax but we cannot confirm that one way or another until full checks are carried out,' a spokesman for Greater Manchester Police said.
  
  'We got a security warning from the German security authorities,' said Peter Menkel, an official with Singapore Airlines in Frankfurt. He said he did not have details, but added that 'it had nothing to do with a passenger on board - it was external.'
  
  In Germany, federal police spokesman Klaus Ludwig said a bomb threat against the flight was made in a call to police in the south-western German city of Tuebingen.
  
  It was the fourth commercial flight diverted as a security precaution in Europe in the last eight days.
  
  One was diverted to Stansted airport north of London, while another was diverted to Shannon in western Ireland and a third to Amsterdam's Schiphol airport in the Netherlands.
  
  All three flights resumed their journeys after searches concluded there was no threat to security. -- AP
  
  
• goh meng seng

  5 Oct 04, 17:40

  Thanks Paperchicken. At least it was up in the ST Interactive news! I was wondering how come they don't have it in Singapore main mass media; do they seriously think that they could effectively have news blockade in this modern era of information freedom via Internet?
  
  But if it is in ST Interactive news and not on the main papers, it speaks volume of how news are being controlled in Singapore.
  
  Goh Meng Seng
• goh meng seng

  5 Oct 04, 17:52

  Ok, I am mistaken. ST actually carries the news, but in the World News column, not Local.
  
  Here is the link:
  
  http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/world/story/0,4386,276139,00.html?
  
  Goh Meng Seng
• paperchicken

  5 Oct 04, 18:00

  Originally posted by goh meng seng:

  Thanks Paperchicken. At least it was up in the ST Interactive news! I was wondering how come they don't have it in Singapore main mass media; do they seriously think that they could effectively have news blockade in this modern era of information freedom via Internet?
  
  But if it is in ST Interactive news and not on the main papers, it speaks volume of how news are being controlled in Singapore.
  
  Goh Meng Seng

  if it has been in ST interactive it would have been in the main papers. You never read it doesnt not mean its not reported. Pls dun make this kind of baseless accusation against the press. I think its very unfair.
• laurence82

  5 Oct 04, 18:03

  yup, i read in this morn in the ST print one...
• goh meng seng

  5 Oct 04, 18:18

  Sorry that I made a mistake this time. However, it is not necessary that what's on ST Interactive Latest News will be carried in main newspaper.
  
  To me, this is a breaking news and in a small city like Singapore without much happening, you would have known about it throuh front page or breaking News through the TV news.
  
  Well, I don't see why you are unaware about this news (most probably the radio or TV news didn't carry this) when in HK, I knew about it last night. SIA is the icon of Singapore!
  
  There are examples in the past that news reported here in Hong Kong, will only be reported "late", maybe 24 hour late.
  
  Of course, in Singapore, reports that glorifies Singapore will get into breaking news very fast. And sometimes, "bad" news about its neighbours or competitors like Hong Kong will get full coverage.
  
  Now, there is one news here, reported in HK. DBS bank HK has made a blunder. They have mistakenly allowed renovation companies to shift out safe boxes rented out to their clients and the safe boxes have been destroyed, looted. Let's see whether it gets reported in Singapore tonight, or tomorrow.
  
  Goh Meng Seng
  
  

  Originally posted by paperchicken:

  if it has been in ST interactive it would have been in the main papers. You never read it doesnt not mean its not reported. Pls dun make this kind of baseless accusation against the press. I think its very unfair.

• SilverKris

  5 Oct 04, 20:57

  I saw it on local tv (english news) oso....but can't remember whether channel i or channel 5 .
  
  oso on channelnewsasia website 4th oct 2004
  http://www.channelnewsasia.com/cgi-bin/search/search_7days.pl?status=&search=singapore%20airlines&id=110007
  
  aiyah...want to complain some more or try hard to put gahmen in bad light oso must do some research first right?
• robertteh

  5 Oct 04, 22:01

  One more reason for Singapore to tread the Swiss-style neutrality foreign policy? By pursuing such a policy, there will be many positives for Singapore to capitalize on to build an even stronger military and economic rejuvenation.
  
  Are we running out of ideas how to level up to the next level of competitiveness?
  
  How about identifying these factors to our favour to build a more vibrant society?
• Qitai

  6 Oct 04, 07:41

  It looks like someone has an agenda here.
• sgdiehard

  6 Oct 04, 11:52

  Originally posted by Qitai:

  It looks like someone has an agenda here.

  I heard the news on 98.7 on Monday evening, before the thread was even started. Now one overeaction is capitalized for another agenda. That is facking politics.
• goh meng seng

  6 Oct 04, 12:07

  Originally posted by sgdiehard:

  I heard the news on 98.7 on Monday evening, before the thread was even started. Now one overeaction is capitalized for another agenda. That is facking politics.

  First of all, I am in Hong Kong, there is no way I could listen to Singapore's radio. That is why I ask. I could only refer to news report via Internet.
  
  Secondly, I am interested in making comparison in news reporting from HK, Taiwan as well as Singapore. It is not uncommon for differences to be found in reports from both sides. SIA bomb threat is being reported as headline news via the radio here. DBS HK blunder has been splashed all over HK media as headlines. Both SIA and DBS are the icons of Singapore, but apparently, there are people in Singapore like you, are not aware of the SIA incident. It could mean one thing, it did not make it as headline news. Reported in TV Prime news? I dunno. That is why I ask.
  
  For the DBS HK blunder, HK was splashed with the news yesterday afternoon. When did you get the news? I dunno. But obviously, there is a time lag. News fly in the information age; a delay of more than 4 hours is unacceptable, especially when it concerns National interests like the National Icons. The Press release was done after 5 pm, I believe.
  
  There are many ways of news reporting. How the news is being reported, how much of the news has been reported, when the news is being reported...etc etc. It demonstrates the level of "openness" and the speed of information flow within a system/country. If PM Lee is talking about "open society", then journalism in Singapore has to catch up.
  
  Goh Meng Seng
• The Barracuda

  6 Oct 04, 12:47

  Maybe you have been away from Singapore for a very, very, very, very , very long time. The news report in Singapore are timely and sometimes on a "live" basis. The CNA has correspondents in other parts of the world, including HongKong. The Iraqi war was reported live from Bagdad.
  
  The newspapers have a time lag which I think is normal. It will take time to print and distribute them. There is also a cut-off time for news article to be included. The online version of these papers do provide the latest updates.
  
  The news coverage of different countries and regions may differ because the forcus and interest of their readers are different. . By giving the hoax news a low profile coverage is appropriate otherwise it would give other copycats the encouragement to make such hoaxs in future.
  
  In respond to the video taping of executions of the hostages in Iraq, major media in the world has decided not to carry such footages in future. Does that mean the world has become "less open" after 911 ? The role of the media is to provide the public with information but at the same time it has a social responsibility as well.
  
  I dont think we shd emulate the sensational reporting styles of the press in other countries. The current reporting style is fine with me.
• paperchicken

  6 Oct 04, 18:11

  Originally posted by goh meng seng:

  First of all, I am in Hong Kong, there is no way I could listen to Singapore's radio. That is why I ask. I could only refer to news report via Internet.
  
  Secondly, I am interested in making comparison in news reporting from HK, Taiwan as well as Singapore. It is not uncommon for differences to be found in reports from both sides. SIA bomb threat is being reported as headline news via the radio here. DBS HK blunder has been splashed all over HK media as headlines. Both SIA and DBS are the icons of Singapore, but apparently, there are people in Singapore like you, are not aware of the SIA incident. It could mean one thing, it did not make it as headline news. Reported in TV Prime news? I dunno. That is why I ask.
  
  For the DBS HK blunder, HK was splashed with the news yesterday afternoon. When did you get the news? I dunno. But obviously, there is a time lag. News fly in the information age; a delay of more than 4 hours is unacceptable, especially when it concerns National interests like the National Icons. The Press release was done after 5 pm, I believe.
  
  There are many ways of news reporting. How the news is being reported, how much of the news has been reported, when the news is being reported...etc etc. It demonstrates the level of "openness" and the speed of information flow within a system/country. If PM Lee is talking about "open society", then journalism in Singapore has to catch up.
  
  Goh Meng Seng

  Taiwan got so many press and TV stations but when ah bian got shoot in public nobody know. Up till now ppl still dun know the truth. So did their degree of openess help ? Their FM anyhow talk and was reported in the press but he still refuse to apologise. The free press always cooking up more stories.
  
  Is that what you want in Singapore ?
• papertiger

  6 Oct 04, 19:51

  Originally posted by paperchicken:

  Taiwan got so many press and TV stations but when ah bian got shoot in public nobody know. Up till now ppl still dun know the truth. So did their degree of openess help ? Their FM anyhow talk and was reported in the press but he still refuse to apologise. The free press always cooking up more stories.
  
  Is that what you want in Singapore ?

  Want to learn from Taiwan Parliament also ? Anything not happy fight it out. Like that we will truly be a free and open society.
• sgdiehard

  6 Oct 04, 21:59

  Originally posted by goh meng seng:

  First of all, I am in Hong Kong, there is no way I could listen to Singapore's radio. That is why I ask. I could only refer to news report via Internet.
  
  Secondly, I am interested in making comparison in news reporting from HK, Taiwan as well as Singapore. It is not uncommon for differences to be found in reports from both sides. SIA bomb threat is being reported as headline news via the radio here. DBS HK blunder has been splashed all over HK media as headlines. Both SIA and DBS are the icons of Singapore, but apparently, there are people in Singapore like you, are not aware of the SIA incident. It could mean one thing, it did not make it as headline news. Reported in TV Prime news? I dunno. That is why I ask.
  
  For the DBS HK blunder, HK was splashed with the news yesterday afternoon. When did you get the news? I dunno. But obviously, there is a time lag. News fly in the information age; a delay of more than 4 hours is unacceptable, especially when it concerns National interests like the National Icons. The Press release was done after 5 pm, I believe.
  
  There are many ways of news reporting. How the news is being reported, how much of the news has been reported, when the news is being reported...etc etc. It demonstrates the level of "openness" and the speed of information flow within a system/country. If PM Lee is talking about "open society", then journalism in Singapore has to catch up.
  
  Goh Meng Seng

  Reporting needs "openness", should not be contaminated, and should not be twisted to suit anybody's private agenda. Well, this post appears to be used by others for their own agenda. Damn, this is politics.
• paperchicken

  6 Oct 04, 22:01

  can someone call SIA and tell them there's a bomb. see whether they report tomolo.
• The Barracuda

  8 Oct 04, 10:19

  To Goh Meng Seng :
  
  Is this in the headlines of HongKong newspapers as well ?
  
  
  Wires found cut in cockpit of MAS plane
  
  KUALA LUMPUR - Malaysian police are investigating a third case in 12 months of suspected sabotage involving a Malaysia Airlines (MAS) plane after wires were severed in an Airbus A330 aircraft.
  
  Police said yesterday that the plane was grounded at Kuala Lumpur's international airport on Tuesday after ground crew found some electrical wires inside the aircraft had been cut. The plane was being prepared for a flight to Bangkok.
  
  Assistant Commissioner Abdul Rasman Hussin said the police were not treating the sabotage as terrorism but suspected someone inside MAS.
  
  'No, there's no connection with terrorism,' said the deputy chief of the Criminal Investigation Department.
  
  'We are trying to get evidence but it is difficult. It is not a security breach. We suspect an inside job and we're trying to narrow down (a list of suspects).'
  
  He added that the police were combing through lists of all MAS staff with access to aircraft.
  
  MAS said it had stepped up security again after the latest incident but declined to comment further.
  
  AC Abdul Rasman declined to give details on the severed wiring.
  
  The Star newspaper said yesterday the cut wires were under an instrument panel below the flight captain's seat. The flight systems had indicated a malfunction.
  
  Two MAS planes were grounded last year after wires were found to have been tampered with - an Airbus bound for Perth, Australia, in October and a Boeing jet bound for Bombay, India, in November, Malaysian media reported.
  
  Police detained and questioned 14 MAS maintenance employees after the first incident late last year.
  
  But police said yesterday that they had yet to identify a suspect. -- Reuters, AP, The Star/Asia News Network
  
  
• goh meng seng

  8 Oct 04, 12:22

  Dear Barracuda,
  
  I could only find related news in HK yahoo news feed. Not on the main newspapers.
  
  Bomb threats are more sensational, I guess.
  
  Goh Meng Seng
  
  

  Originally posted by The Barracuda:
  To Goh Meng Seng :
  
  Is this in the headlines of HongKong newspapers as well ?
  
  [b]
  Wires found cut in cockpit of MAS plane