another forums that comment on RSAF
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hi all,
i've attach one of the postin from this particular forum... the URL add was http://users3.cgiforme.com/javad/messages/513.html...... just wonder isit true... any comment????
This message was posted by Flanker, posted on April 01, 2001 at 08:09:39 coming from No domain available
Whats the use of singapore aquiring the amraams in responce to malaysia's aquisition of the AA12 adder?.. the AIM120 may be advanced.. but their F16's has a smaller radar with smaller detection range than the Mig 29's operated by our(malaysian) airforce!!!!!!!! while their AIM120 is also much shotter ranged to our Adders ,So in the BVR fight.. the 1st Fox 3 uttered will be by our Pilots n not those singaporeans.. and if the F16 did manage to evade n come closer for a dogfight, it will probbably be his last..Our HMS will allow us the 1st shot again.. coupled with the migs excelent agility!!..its just plain suicide for those singaporean F16's to ever think of winning a dogfight with our Mig 29's!
I'm not saying this much in hatred towards singapore.. but its just that their goverment cant help but to be a sheer nuisance to us being at our own backyard! For God sake they depend on us from food to water, if we really would want to attck singapore.. we would just have to cut their food and water supplies...
p/s we didnt aquire the migs nor the adders for aggresion reason, but solely for the purpose of defending our borders.Fortunately for the singaporeans we do not believe in that way..
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In fact this should be the website (w/o the "...." )
http://users3.cgiforme.com/javad/messages/513.html
It seems like that sucking Flanker underestimate the ability of RSAF. He is just doing some blind-talking without considering the quality & quantity of both the fighter aircraft & pilots that RSAF have. -
hi waveOriginally posted by wave:In fact this should be the website (w/o the "...." )
http://users3.cgiforme.com/javad/messages/513.html
It seems like that sucking Flanker underestimate the ability of RSAF. He is just doing some blind-talking without considering the quality & quantity of both the fighter aircraft & pilots that RSAF have.
r u the one that post msg on that particular forum??? i did log on to that site and it seen to me that most of them was malasian... i'm not very sure about their mig's... anyone got more info for mig's????
cheers
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RMAF AA12 ADDER does indeed have a greater range than RSAF AMRAAM.
but....... till now, the russian didnt gave the malaysai a single AA12, that is why singapore dont get to keep those AMRAAM we bought from USA becos the US wont release it to us unless another nation a.k.a. malaysia manage to get its hand on the AA12.
secondly, the malaysai upon realizing the difficulty of getting the AA12, now have to end up begging the US for Sparrow BVR to counter the Sparrows BVR missile already in RSAF inventory.
IF malaysai have AA12, why the fuck u think they want to waste money buying Sparrow BVR.
so the dream of malaysai Mig shouting the first FOX3! onli happens in their imagination fueled by cock up news reporter who simply love to butter their leaders stuck up ass.
for your information, the AA12 can only work with russian made radar which is a crap when it comes to ground attack, which is why maharaja have to end up buying hornets to do that bombing part.
furthermore, the AA12 require guidance for most of its initial flight all the way up approximately about 40km from its intended target. during this time, if the Falcon initiates EW, ECM,ECCM or decided to do an NOE, that AA12 would become one blind adder.muahahaaa
Malaysai says their mig got big radar, so it means long range. what kind of crap relationship is there between size of radar and the range of a radar??? but then we have E-2C, which piggyback one giant radar dish. i would like to see the mig carrying one of that to beat the range of our hawkeyes. hahaaa
Malaysai thinks that its mig got HMS very shiok, can have wide 45 degree cone of firing. tell the malaysai go home makan pisang. tell them RSAF F-16 also got HMS with python-4 that has a firing cone of 60 degree and with a 2 hit flight programe. plus AVEN vector thrust engine that boost the most agile fighter in the world (F-16 not fulcrum) a further 30 percent increase in agility. Tell them that RSAF F-16 got LANTIRN that enables our falcons to bomb malaysai all night long while their fulcrum like all the kuku birds of malaysai, cannot do night combat and is pitifully dependent on fly by instrument if they wish to die in a night fight.
Tell them too, that RSAF falcons are wild weasels, combined with the best EW suit from US and Isreal. tell them too that RSAF now has 3 times more falcons than they have fulcrums, all pilots trained in US of A. Tell them we have KC135R that can send our falcons all the way to perlis and bomb their banana tree if we so desire.
And if all those above is not enough, we are currently looking into Rafael, SU-33MK, Typhoon, JSF and Viggen, the next generation of fighters to replace our skyhawks or tigers. each of those above got systems and weapons that malaysai can only see in their comic books. weapons like JSOW, Apache SOW and stealth features.
NOT ENOUGH??? HELL..... RSAF now got more than enough firepower to wipe 3 RMAF clean off the face of the earth without much sweat.
but why we even bother to counter the statment from a guy whose country that dont even have enough money to train its pilot, maintain its planes, buy spareparts and have to rely on foreign engineers to keep their planes flying????
for god sake, with onli 17 mig, this translate to no more than 8 mig is available to defend the whole of malaysai airspace at any one time. how great a defense is that????? we got more planes doing fly by on national day then they have defending the entire malaysai air space!!! -
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thanz for all the info!!!! -
Here are some interesting photos which display the fate of some western MIG-29. I guess it'll also be the fate of those Malaysia's Mig-29 if they ever try to be funny with the RSAF...haahaaha
http://members.tripod.com/YUModelClub/war_over_yugoslav/mig29_wrecage.htm
http://www.1000pictures.com/view.htm?caircraft/russian+fCrash-1.jpg+x692+y470
http://www.1000pictures.com/view.htm?caircraft/russian+fCrash-2.jpg+x686+y476
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~caltino/migcrash.htm
http://military.topcities.com/coolimages/coolimages.htm
This one even got motion picture & music: http://ns1.mesh.net/~kwessel/abruptlanding.htm -
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may i add for the pitiful malaysai gullibles who has been led by the nose by their local papers that the AA-12 ADDER they so fucking proud of isnt gonna be the 'real thing'!!!
why??? cos there is a downgraded "export" version!! mauhahaahaaaaaaaa that the russian gave to C2P nations like malaysai which have no place in the russians overall strategic concern. they just sell their ADDER brand for a quick buck!!
the real stuff, the russian gave to themselves onli. where got C2P nation would sell their most advance weapon on the market?? only C2P buyers who probably got a goreng pisang for a brain would believe that they are getting the "real" thing.
just look at the fiasco when they bought the MIG 29. the russians should them how impressive the fulcrum is by showing the malaysai the MIG-29M version.
but when they deliver the fulcrum that malaysai ordered, it ends up becoming the scrape yard quality second hand MIG-29A version build decades ago!! with NO AA-12 ADDER carrying ability!! muahahaaaaaaaaaa
in the end, the malaysai after paying through their nose, ends up having to pawn their sarong to "upgrade" (refurbish lah KNN) the MIG-29. first time in history, a 'supposedly' "brand new" aircraft needs to be "upgraded" muahahaaaaa.....
prove to all, how gullibles those sais up north are. believing every crap their toilet paper prints.
sometimes i think we must really pity those ignorant malaysais. *cough* -
Are you the same tripwire who tried hard to convince me that Singaporeans are people who are proud of the country's achievement instead of snobs.
But you mispelled our neighbour's nationality on purpose, made fun of their national dress code, , made a sweeping statement that they are all gullible people and mocked their tabloid...
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I am a snob......... BIG DEAL!
call me anything u like, call singaporeans anything u like. you wanna climb on your morality high horse ass and prove ur higher then normal wisdom, please go ahead,
I D O N T C A R E!!!!!
becos the term SNOB... and anyone who use this stupid word simply show lack of maturity.
SNOB............. hahaaaaa....
DO you really care who i am and what i am and what i really feel and think and does?????
DO you really want to know??
NO..... you dont care! why?? becos you like to use the word SNOB, branding anyone who cannot make your high ass morality mark as a freak, with words like SNOB, UGLY, UNFRIENDLY, OBNOXIOUS, SELFISH.......
too often we have heard these words thrown around in office politics.
too often we have seen people forced to tears because of such hurtful words.
How many kind souls have been branded with such evil words, weeping in silence with no one to confide to.
how many more people are gonna loose their friends and family because of these insensitive rumor backstabbing before we realise the danger of PERCEPTION!!??
WHEN!!! will it ever..... ends???
ALL those words are created by the devils among us who want to think that they are more moral and more esteem than the rest of us riff raffs down at the bottom.
these words, they are use to brand us as a freak so that those who use it can appear as angels.
REAL, i MEAN REALLY wise and god loving people NEVER goes around EVER using the word SNOB! or whatever words that brands anyone as less then normal human beings.
SO......... I AM A SNOB...... and you?? feeling more holy now?? WHO THE HELL R U to use such demeaning words, such hurtful words, such evil words on US??? r U GOD??
we use vulgar language, we use words too harsh for the ears for those up there in the higher society, we are the ruffians, the uneducated, the forgotten ones, the underbellies.....
BUT at least what we say, we say it from our hearts, we say it as truthfully as we knew it is or was. we speak with conviction, with loyalty, with passion and with pride.
we dont go around wearing suits and talk in circles, we dont act like wolfs in sheep skins. we are what we are, and we are proud of what we are.
AND YES!!! i deliberately spell malaysia as malaysai !! WHY??? becos i love my country, and i have pride in my country, and my fire burns high and hot when someone up north tries to put down my country with his lies and bullshit!
I!!!!.......am not a diplomat, nor one good with words. i simply believe in my feelings and my emotion, for i am only human. I am not a computer or an animal. IF for that, i am to be called a SNOB. i gladly welcomes it.
I hope that one day GOD will save you from such evil words, then you will see the better side of all mankind.
U might wish to ask, why i use the word gullible on the malaysians....while i lashed out at u for using the word snob on singaporean.
BECOS I....am human, a citizen of singapore, a proud singaporean that i am. AND I LOVE MY COUNTRY!
u wanna talk about morality when someone just thrown a cowdung to your face. please be my guest! i am not that holy. -
I haven't been this confused in a long time.
If you will, by all means travel to http://users3.cgiforme.com/javad/messages/513.html, right about your argument, you will have no short of supporter since its a military aircraft forum on international grounds.
Vomitting patriotism here in Sgforums is nothing more than injecting yourself with a good dosage of egoism at the expenses of others.
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actually thats how i response as well!!! come to think of it.... thats mainly becoz i LOVE MY COUNTRY!!! im not highly educated and i dont used BEAUTIFUL WORDS to fight back. perhaps, i cant!!!!Originally posted by tripwire:I am a snob......... BIG DEAL!
BUT at least what we say, we say it from our hearts, we say it as truthfully as we knew it is or was. we speak with conviction, with loyalty, with passion and with pride.
we dont go around wearing suits and talk in circles, we dont act like wolfs in sheep skins. we are what we are, and we are proud of what we are.
AND YES!!! i deliberately spell malaysia as malaysai !! WHY??? becos i love my country, and i have pride in my country, and my fire burns high and hot when someone up north tries to put down my country with his lies and bullshit.
btw, what do pig's know abt military stuff??? they just know eat .. sleep... eat sleep.... thats all!!!
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If you bleed more in peace,
You will bleed less in war,
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Vomitting.....patriotism???
then what the hell are u doing by calling singaporeans as snobs??? running around the market place like mad naked women screaming traitorism??!!! is this wat u are doing???
LOVE THY ENEMY!!!! HAAHAHAAAAHAAAAA..... hearing such words from one who spits and looks down on his own fellow countrymen as snobs with that i am holier than everyone else attitude...
I will be really surprised if the malaysians would believe in your love.... malaysians arent that dumb u know?? or do u think that they are gullible??? -
Go to the military forum to post your opinions.. there, you can explain your point to militart enthusiasts and your patriotic counterparts in Malaysia.Originally posted by tripwire:AND YES!!! i deliberately spell malaysia as malaysai !! WHY??? becos i love my country, and i have pride in my country, and my fire burns high and hot when someone up north tries to put down my country with his lies and bullshit!
There are no Malaysians here to hear you.
And was it my creative use of capslock, my silly laughters, long strings of exclamation and question marks that gave you the notion that I was mad, naked and female? -
NOPE! your wordings and sentences projects that image. so who can u blame other then urself for projecting such a grotesque image of yourself??Originally posted by Illegal Operation:Go to the military forum to post your opinions.. there, you can explain your point to militart enthusiasts and your patriotic counterparts in Malaysia.
There are no Malaysians here to hear you.
And was it my creative use of capslock, my silly laughters, long strings of exclamation and question marks that gave you the notion that I was mad, naked and female?
AND I dont need to go to some other forum to express my view. i choose where i want to post and when i will post. why should i care what u think??
ANYWAY... we have deviated too much from the orignal post.
I just recently got hold of some additional information regarding the malaysian ADDER.
IT seems that the russians gave the chinese a downgraded ADDER version too. BUT!!!! even this version is reportedly to be better than those ADDER destined for countries like malaysia.
THUS it would seem, that the malaysian ADDER if they do get their hands on it eventually will have to be a downgraded version of an ALREADY downgraded version of the original ADDER. IT would seems that, what malaysia will really get, is a sharply downgraded version!
IT begs the question that with such a huge downgrade in the ADDERs ability destined for malaysia, Statistics and figures quoted from the original ADDERs capability would no longer hold.
IN fact, all those gungho stats provided by the RMAF or malaysian military 'expert' is dead WRONG!!! the malaysian ADDER may even underperformed against the AMRAAM OR even against the sparrow BVR!! -
Ei! Go back Malaysia lar. You noe nutin about Aerial Warfare, SHUT UP! Your damn MIGs can't even defencd Malatsia's air space, you still dare to talk about us. Your _RMAF) Air force haven even received the AA12 you still want to talk big. You Stupid sia..... The Fulcrum's radar is so small that they have to rely on close air-to-air combat to get victory. Some more, your Fulcrum have lack of range, dun you know that? Shit man.... The RSAF's F16C and D are the most sophisticated and most advanced in the F16 family. Our pilots are trained in US and even get victory over the Red Flag exercise! Yes, you guys have the F/A18 that had more weapon payload than the F16C and far more agility, but think about it, how many Hornets do you guys operate? By the way, the Singapore Government never have any ill intention towards Malaysia. Damn it! our government need to be the most powerful in the region cos of fear of history repeating itself. The RSAF's large fleet of F16C/D, A4SU, and F5S can sweep acroos of malaysia at one go. By the way, 1 of our F-16 C/D is enough to wipe out 4 of your Fulcrum (once we have the authority to receive the AMRAAM). Don't forget that our F5S is AMRAAM compatible! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. NO CHANCE, RMAF! not only are we good in Aerial WarFAre, we are good at land and sea. Our Over the Horizon HARPOON long-range anti-ship missile= GAME OVER for the RMN. Before you vessel can detect us, you will see a bright spectrum of light charging towards your vessel. You dun noe where we are!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH. SHIT U! our army's tank may not be good, but can outnumber your tank. our Bionix=Game over for your AIFV and Stormer APC. BYE BYe
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hhahhahaah sound like an adult fightin with a kid!!!! kekekekkOriginally posted by Patriotic Tim:Ei! Go back Malaysia lar. You noe nutin about Aerial Warfare, SHUT UP! Your damn MIGs can't even defencd Malatsia's air space, you still dare to talk about us. Your _RMAF) Air force haven even received the AA12 you still want to talk big. You Stupid sia..... The Fulcrum's radar is so small that they have to rely on close air-to-air combat to get victory. Some more, your Fulcrum have lack of range, dun you know that? Shit man.... The RSAF's F16C and D are the most sophisticated and most advanced in the F16 family. Our pilots are trained in US and even get victory over the Red Flag exercise! Yes, you guys have the F/A18 that had more weapon payload than the F16C and far more agility, but think about it, how many Hornets do you guys operate? By the way, the Singapore Government never have any ill intention towards Malaysia. Damn it! our government need to be the most powerful in the region cos of fear of history repeating itself. The RSAF's large fleet of F16C/D, A4SU, and F5S can sweep acroos of malaysia at one go. By the way, 1 of our F-16 C/D is enough to wipe out 4 of your Fulcrum (once we have the authority to receive the AMRAAM). Don't forget that our F5S is AMRAAM compatible! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. NO CHANCE, RMAF! not only are we good in Aerial WarFAre, we are good at land and sea. Our Over the Horizon HARPOON long-range anti-ship missile= GAME OVER for the RMN. Before you vessel can detect us, you will see a bright spectrum of light charging towards your vessel. You dun noe where we are!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH. SHIT U! our army's tank may not be good, but can outnumber your tank. our Bionix=Game over for your AIFV and Stormer APC. BYE BYe
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If you bleed more in peace,
You will bleed less in war,
Coz the only easy day was yesterday.... -
Heh heh guys, don't mind, can tell me where you'll get all this info from? It's really very interesting.
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Got them from Defence Magazines, Janes and websites.
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Russian air-to-air missiles had always been under-performing against U.S AAM. For the Adder, how capable is its BVR capability. Actually its not the problem weather the missile is good. The missile is good. The problem lies with the aircraft it had been used by. Rite?Originally posted by tripwire:NOPE! your wordings and sentences projects that image. so who can u blame other then urself for projecting such a grotesque image of yourself??
AND I dont need to go to some other forum to express my view. i choose where i want to post and when i will post. why should i care what u think??
ANYWAY... we have deviated too much from the orignal post.
I just recently got hold of some additional information regarding the malaysian ADDER.
IT seems that the russians gave the chinese a downgraded ADDER version too. BUT!!!! even this version is reportedly to be better than those ADDER destined for countries like malaysia.
THUS it would seem, that the malaysian ADDER if they do get their hands on it eventually will have to be a downgraded version of an ALREADY downgraded version of the original ADDER. IT would seems that, what malaysia will really get, is a sharply downgraded version!
IT begs the question that with such a huge downgrade in the ADDERs ability destined for malaysia, Statistics and figures quoted from the original ADDERs capability would no longer hold.
IN fact, all those gungho stats provided by the RMAF or malaysian military 'expert' is dead WRONG!!! the malaysian ADDER may even underperformed against the AMRAAM OR even against the sparrow BVR!! -
hahahaha not only that,i think pilot's and the type of trainin they have.... also take into account.... no matter what... i've faith on our RSAF.... i know and i believed they can take those '3rd class' pilots anytime......Originally posted by Patriotic Tim:Russian air-to-air missiles had always been under-performing against U.S AAM. For the Adder, how capable is its BVR capability. Actually its not the problem weather the missile is good. The missile is good. The problem lies with the aircraft it had been used by. Rite?
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If you bleed more in peace,
You will bleed less in war,
Coz the only easy day was yesterday....
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by NDU:
hahahaha not only that,i think pilot's and the type of trainin they have.... also take into account.... no matter what... i've faith on our RSAF.... i know and i believed they can take those '3rd class' pilots anytime......
Yar man. Those 3rd class pilots are just not well trained enough. Perhaps for a few exeption, the rest....... -
stupid frog! u think migs very good izzit? do you noe that the indian air force lost more than 40 migs due to technical failures. u think RMAF so good rite.so tell me did ur fucking malaysian air force won any major international awards?our RSAF 425th Black widow squadron which operates the super advanced F-16C/D, has recently won the fighter wing's five-star gold award for best air crew chief in USA. they also achieved the most kills and completed missions in the recent competition organised by USAAF.Originally posted by frog-man:hi all,
i've attach one of the postin from this particular forum... the URL add was http://users3.cgiforme.com/javad/messages/513.html...... just wonder isit true... any comment????
This message was posted by Flanker, posted on April 01, 2001 at 08:09:39 coming from No domain available
Whats the use of singapore aquiring the amraams in responce to malaysia's aquisition of the AA12 adder?.. the AIM120 may be advanced.. but their F16's has a smaller radar with smaller detection range than the Mig 29's operated by our(malaysian) airforce!!!!!!!! while their AIM120 is also much shotter ranged to our Adders ,So in the BVR fight.. the 1st Fox 3 uttered will be by our Pilots n not those singaporeans.. and if the F16 did manage to evade n come closer for a dogfight, it will probbably be his last..Our HMS will allow us the 1st shot again.. coupled with the migs excelent agility!!..its just plain suicide for those singaporean F16's to ever think of winning a dogfight with our Mig 29's!
I'm not saying this much in hatred towards singapore.. but its just that their goverment cant help but to be a sheer nuisance to us being at our own backyard! For God sake they depend on us from food to water, if we really would want to attck singapore.. we would just have to cut their food and water supplies...
p/s we didnt aquire the migs nor the adders for aggresion reason, but solely for the purpose of defending our borders.Fortunately for the singaporeans we do not believe in that way..
Our F-16C/D planes,crews,personnels are among the best in the world. Do u noe where the 425th black widow squadron are based. Let me tell u now
Luke Air Force Base,Arizona.
Thats where the US air force keep their A-10 thunderbolts, B-117 Stealth Fighter and B-25 Liberators.
Let me see where the RMAF migs airplanes are based.......
Oh!!! there it is, in a fishing village of the coast of rantau abang ion terrenganu.
Fishing village? never heard of in Singapore. i wonder if there are any air defence systems in malaysia's villages n urban areas. Our HDB estates and other building are guarded by very advanced air defence systems.only thing is the installations positions is highly classified and top secret.
Call ur migs n enter into singapore airspace. because our Hawkeye E-2C can detect into malaysian airspace, u only got 5 seconds to leave singapore be4 our missiles n airplanes destroy you.
UWAHAHAHAHA
MAJULAH SINGAPURA
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stupid frog! u think migs very good izzit? do you noe that the indian air force lost more than 40 migs due to technical failures. u think RMAF so good rite.so tell me did ur fucking malaysian air force won any major international awards?our RSAF 425th Black widow squadron which operates the super advanced F-16C/D, has recently won the fighter wing's five-star gold award for best air crew chief in USA. they also achieved the most kills and completed missions in the recent competition organised by USAAF.Originally posted by MinisterOfDefence:[QUOTE]Originally posted by frog-man:
[b]hi all,
i've attach one of the postin from this particular forum... the URL add was http://users3.cgiforme.com/javad/messages/513.html...... just wonder isit true... any comment????
This message was posted by Flanker, posted on April 01, 2001 at 08:09:39 coming from No domain available
Whats the use of singapore aquiring the amraams in responce to malaysia's aquisition of the AA12 adder?.. the AIM120 may be advanced.. but their F16's has a smaller radar with smaller detection range than the Mig 29's operated by our(malaysian) airforce!!!!!!!! while their AIM120 is also much shotter ranged to our Adders ,So in the BVR fight.. the 1st Fox 3 uttered will be by our Pilots n not those singaporeans.. and if the F16 did manage to evade n come closer for a dogfight, it will probbably be his last..Our HMS will allow us the 1st shot again.. coupled with the migs excelent agility!!..its just plain suicide for those singaporean F16's to ever think of winning a dogfight with our Mig 29's!
I'm not saying this much in hatred towards singapore.. but its just that their goverment cant help but to be a sheer nuisance to us being at our own backyard! For God sake they depend on us from food to water, if we really would want to attck singapore.. we would just have to cut their food and water supplies...
p/s we didnt aquire the migs nor the adders for aggresion reason, but solely for the purpose of defending our borders.Fortunately for the singaporeans we do not believe in that way..
Our F-16C/D planes,crews,personnels are among the best in the world. Do u noe where the 425th black widow squadron are based. Let me tell u now
Luke Air Force Base,Arizona.
Thats where the US air force keep their A-10 thunderbolts, B-117 Stealth Fighter and B-25 Liberators.
Let me see where the RMAF migs airplanes are based.......
Oh!!! there it is, in a fishing village of the coast of rantau abang ion terrenganu.
Fishing village? never heard of in Singapore. i wonder if there are any air defence systems in malaysia's villages n urban areas. Our HDB estates and other building are guarded by very advanced air defence systems.only thing is the installations positions is highly classified and top secret.
Call ur migs n enter into singapore airspace. because our Hawkeye E-2C can detect into malaysian airspace, u only got 5 seconds to leave singapore be4 our missiles n airplanes destroy you.
UWAHAHAHAHA
MAJULAH SINGAPURA
One more thing......
NEGARAKU really SUCKS!!!!![/B][/QUOTE]
har u sucker.... better read the post probably before u give any comment!!! frog- man was the one's that attach one of the post from another forums.... those comment was given by those malaysian!!!!
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If you bleed more in peace,
You will bleed less in war,
Coz the only easy day was yesterday.... -
Even if the Migs were as good as the malaysiaas have said ,how many migs they have and how many F-16s we have?By the time they have fired their all missiles, they would find 20 or so F-16s tareting them.Besides,what is the range of a migs radar compared with that of the E2Cs.And furthurmore, our JF-16D could jam their radars from a long range, rendering their radars useless
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Even if the Migs were as good as the malaysiaas have said ,how many migs they have and how many F-16s we have?By the time they have fired their all missiles, they would find 20 or so F-16s tareting them.Besides,what is the range of a migs radar compared with that of the E2Cs.And furthurmore, our JF-16D could jam their radars from a long range, rendering their radars useless.
