Opinion on 2012 ascension
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This is my opinion on 2012 ascension.
There are people who think that some millions of people will go 5D at 2012 or some years later. My opinion defers.
The ancient ancestors( Lemurian) times have a biological system that is different from ours. Their form is crystalline. It will take generations to transform a current dna structure to that of the 4/5D ancestors. .. and it is dependent of realistions of truth about reality/consciousness as well as a simultaneously transformed habits influencing the chemistry and biology of body. Why is that so.. this is because karma is actually a kind of patterns that can be due to ignorance and/or it can be due to habits form over generations. The ancient ancestors biological structure enables them to not eat solid food and is androgynous. ... How many people do not need to eat? I do not see millions of people who do not need to eat food in this world now..
Therefore, i don't think ascension is possible without a very deep mastery(realisation) of what is reality in truth. This is because, each dimension is what it is like due to a veil of illusion(ignorance) cast over it. For example, most people will not realise that in actuality, there is no distance, location, space and time. .. In another word, the world that we see is Holographic.... ( somewhat correspondes with the insight of Emptiness in Buddhism) . This is somewhat being hinted by the discovery of quantum science. Even if we are aware that the world is holographic, we are still locked into the algorithm patterns of the particular dimension... this is somewhat liken to the karma patterns that helms conditions in place. Why so? the karmic conditons are is there, even if we have some kind of intermitten understanding and direct experience of Reality. For example, a human being can see in full colour.. a dog cannot. The conditions for such is the difference patterns of consciousness between the 2 species.
Also, the world is changing... it is a good idea to have a back-to -basics attitude. .. like learning how to grow your own food and not be too reliant on technology, etc.
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The recent Japan quake and tsunami have cause lots of suffering..
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The totality is experienced as individual streams of consciousness. The individuals can only work through personally. All beings can only work through their own experiences. The seeing of the 'huge issue' is therefore only a conceptual framework that must not be attached to ... this is because all beings will still have to work through the dynamics personally by themselves...
That include the helpers and lightworkers too. The lightworkers must also be able to detached from seeing it as a huge issue. He/she must be able to establish equaminity state of being and not get addicted to seeing this as a huge issue.
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Originally posted by SoulDivine:
Yep yep.. true.
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I've heard of another saying of 21 Dec. 2012. They said humans will be zero dimension. I don't believe but I'm curious what is zero dimension ? Is it same as æ— è‰²ç•Œ?
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Originally posted by Pinknutri:
I've heard of another saying of 21 Dec. 2012. They said humans will be zero dimension. I don't believe but I'm curious what is zero dimension ? Is it same as æ— è‰²ç•Œ?
Zero dimension probably meant 'the experience of Presence prior to manifestation/creation'. It can happen to meditators when their consciousness completely shut down. When consciousness completely shut down.. it is not a blank. It is something that most have not experienced before... so i do not wish to put more concepts for people to imagine.
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Originally posted by SoulDivine:
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Why the year 2030? is there any significance attributed to this year?
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Hmmm... it is actually more complex than I originally thought. There is actually a split into different timelines after 2012.
A 3D human will experience 3D Earth.... A 4D human will experience 4D Earth and a 5D being will experience 5D Earth... it is the same year 2030, same planet but people on Earth are living in different dimensions.
2012 - end of Precessional Cycle. Start of a new cycle.
2017 - comet pass-by, probably starting the next Ice age.
2030 - planetoid pass-by, Annunaki beings visit Earth.
For 2030, the significance is that Earth will be primarily a 4D planet and most of the 3D souls will have left Earth by then. 3D souls includes animals since animals have souls too.
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Originally posted by SoulDivine:
Hmmm... it is actually more complex than I originally thought. There is actually a split into different timelines after 2012.
A 3D human will experience 3D Earth.... A 4D human will experience 4D Earth and a 5D being will experience 5D Earth... it is the same year 2030, same planet but people on Earth are living in different dimensions.
2012 - end of Precessional Cycle. Start of a new cycle.
2017 - comet pass-by, probably starting the next Ice age.
2030 - planetoid pass-by, Annunaki beings visit Earth.
For 2030, the significance is that Earth will be primarily a 4D planet and most of the 3D souls will have left Earth by then. 3D souls includes animals since animals have souls too.
Where will you be after 2012? Which D?
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My target is 4D in 2013.
Yes, I will want to grow my own food too.
There will be a need for people to gather and start creating self-sufficient spiritual community. I have ideas, but nobody support as of now (April 2011).
People thinking that the current world economy will recover and carry on "business as usual" is the 3D human scenario.
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Originally posted by SoulDivine:
Hmmm... it is actually more complex than I originally thought. There is actually a split into different timelines after 2012.
A 3D human will experience 3D Earth.... A 4D human will experience 4D Earth and a 5D being will experience 5D Earth... it is the same year 2030, same planet but people on Earth are living in different dimensions.
2012 - end of Precessional Cycle. Start of a new cycle.
2017 - comet pass-by, probably starting the next Ice age.
2030 - planetoid pass-by, Annunaki beings visit Earth.
For 2030, the significance is that Earth will be primarily a 4D planet and most of the 3D souls will have left Earth by then. 3D souls includes animals since animals have souls too.
What are Annunaki beings ? Are they gods or demons ? Good beings or bad beings ? Are they coming in the form of human beings ?
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The luminous world is right here as the vision and sensory perceptions. It is just that we fail to see it. 4D, 5D are not somewhere out there...
I have no wish to be any teacher of sort. (hey.. i am still exploring..). but just to share to people who have the good fortune to experience and realise it.
I apologise if i keep bringing Buddhism into the picture... but this teaching has helped me the most.
Now... as per Buddhist teaching... the 3 characteristic of existence is no-self, impernenance and suffering. From the viewpoint of the un-realised mind, this Truths seems so pessimistic and morbid. From the experience of realising these truths, the experience is luminous bliss ( if the conditions allow).
How does these 3 'morbid' truths bring you to a luminous bliss ( if the conditions allow)...
When you realise impermanence, the mind realise the 'hopelessness' of wishing for a glorious past and dreaming of a beautiful future. One need to be convinced that there is only change. With that, the mind and heart is willing to drop all expectation and abide as it is. This will lead to the experience of luminous bliss. Yes.. even when the eyes are wide open... perception will have a quality of dreamlike light/luminosity. This is how the truth of impermanence frees the mind of grasping for a 'better' alternatives other than THIS.
Now... stay in this condition of allowing this to arise and pass away long enough... you may have the good fortune to realise another truth. The truth of no-self. Here, you realise that this sense of self is like a passing cloud. An identification of 'me' pops out as a thought and then it is gone. There is no 'I'. When the grasping result/fold into an 'I' there is an I that suffers.
Stay with this long enough and you may have the good fortune to realise another truth. The Truth of emptiness. Well.. well... the universe is just a hologram of simultanous experiences occuring. There is not distance, space and time. Hmmm.. perhaps that is why some highly Enlightened persons have omniscience for there is no distance but all the experiences are interpenetrating.
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Originally posted by SoulDivine:
My target is 4D in 2013.
Yes, I will want to grow my own food too.
There will be a need for people to gather and start creating self-sufficient spiritual community. I have ideas, but nobody support as of now (April 2011).
People thinking that the current world economy will recover and carry on "business as usual" is the 3D human scenario.
Have been trying to grow my own veggie for quite a while..but not very successful..Haha
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Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
What are Annunaki beings ? Are they gods or demons ? Good beings or bad beings ? Are they coming in the form of human beings ?
The Annunaki are etheric and celestial beings from the planetoid Nibiru. In Buddhist terms, you call them Deva.They visit Earth every 3600 years so this is not something new to them or us.
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I have the following solutions for the so-called 2012 ascension. First of all,
1. release your fear
- negative entities (self serving states, institutions, people, and the likes) thrive on fear. We are all fearful of death. But once you realise that you are a spirit being that animates this body that you currently have, you will no longer fear what is to come. You fear the physical body perishing in what calamities is to come, fear NOT! You spirit do not die. It's the physical death of the body. BUT, if you are VERY bound to the physicality and to the material world i.e. 3Dimension, you will be very very uncomfortable with death. i.e. you Fear death.
Fear is highly entrapping. I.e. it traps your spirit to the physical world. The buddhists call this attachment. Release it and you will be free.
2. forgive yourself
- I have nothing much to say about this, but self blaming and self critism prevents your spirit from maturing. It's delimiting your own potential. You must realise that we are a very powerful being (i don't mean physically). But looking down on yourself, you prevent what is possible. Some religions out there (i will not name it) are pretty good at making us feel like shit. Don't buy into it... U are powerful and know you are.
3. forgive others
- There are a lot of service-to-self humans out there. Your boss perhaps? Your colleagues and even your siblings or some of your so-called friends. Oh well... forgive them. I find the concept of karmic cycle logical in the sense that, upon our own physical death, if we have many "karma" with people of this life, we must return to "pay" back or be "paid-back" in that sense. So, for ascension or upliftment to be possible, we need to "detach" ourselves i.e. to forgive others. You must REALLY forgive them and no longer harbor any hatred, or ill feelings towards them.
I wish you guys, all the best, and may your spirit be free. Please help others if you are awaken and aware of this reality. Let your intuition guide you.
We are all one consciousness, remember. :)
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This is for those who are asking me through messages on how to grow from 3D to 4D, then 5D.
Originally posted by Rainbow Jigsaw:
There are many things that people need to do about themselves and their lives to be ready for it this time round, eg.
clearing their karmic issues
complete learning of key life lessons
getting rid of negativity
break free of 'negative programming'
learn to see through the illusion of Earth
re-activate themselves (DNA activation)
regain Consciousness
It requires great effort and determination from people, and it can only be done when their hearts and minds are open, which is currently extremely difficult for most people. Which is why certain things need to happen to open people's hearts and minds.
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As for creating self-sufficient spiritual community, if you want ideas, just create a new topic: "Creating Self-sufficient Spiritual Community" and I will response.
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omg, i really wanna know what u guys are talking about. because it seems really interesting but i cant understand much. All i can make up from what u guys are saying that 2012 will react depends on karma in this world?
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what 3-D, 4-D, 5D nonsense really.
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2012? the world will still continue to evolve after 2012, trust me. earth is at least 6 billion years old now. I dun believe in this nonsense.
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It appears that there is still some confusion going around regarding the Dec 2012 event.
As stated in my other topic, about the Dec 2012 event, it is a phenomenon known as the precession of the equinoxes, where the poles of our planet Earth are aligned (exactly at right angle) to a specific frequency generaterd by Quasars, which are large stellar bodies.
This is a scientific fact from the field of Astrology/Astronomy, not a made-up story. It is just like how people can mathematically calculate when is the next eclipse. So for people who still thinks that "nothing will happen" in Dec 2012, they will be in for big surprises.
2012 is not the end of the world, but it is going to be the end of the current world's monetary/economy systems.
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lol..
Something bigs gonna happen. There are going to be wars fought on all fronts. The material and immaterial wars, and the guilty and nnocent will die. The affects of the universe.. the strings that tie us all together. Mother earth is pissed. And like an amoeba in the sea pondering a whale, we are not gonna see it coming!
BUT ... there can be salvation. Only if you believe !! Belieeeeeeeeve !! Belieeeeeve that 'something' IS going to happen.
Heed my warnings.... I speak nothing but truth! You watch. The prophecies I revealed... shall come to bare soon enough. When it happens, it happens.
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To be true, I have already given a small picture (the one created with open office) to the readers in this topic regarding the expected human scenarios. The numbers are approximate values and not fixed because of free-will. For example, 3D humans can choose right now(2011) whether they want to ascend together with Earth to 4D OR choose to exit Earth and incarnate to other worlds more suitable for their soul-learning.
Whether you believe me or not is not important to me, but I hope that you will start planning/making the most important decisions in your life while you still can.
If you choose to do nothing and carry on "business as usual", it means you have chosen the 3D scenario.
If you lack scientific "prove"/data to make decision, I recommend you to read this webpage -> http://www.timeline2012.net/prepare/possible-earth-events
If you simply do not care, please watch this great video -> Gaia's Prayer