Experience with American soldiers
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Has anybody ever trained with American soldiers?What are your views on them?What was your experience like?
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they speak with a potato in their mouth
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my friend had exerience with them. They saw he was a medic CPL, were very suprised, asked him how old he was, becos its not easy for them to get e rank of CPL, whereas in SAF, CPL like sand lidat, everywhere also have.
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go MINDEF...take a stone and throw...80% of the time u will hit a MajorOriginally posted by HENG@:my friend had exerience with them. They saw he was a medic CPL, were very suprised, asked him how old he was, becos its not easy for them to get e rank of CPL, whereas in SAF, CPL like sand lidat, everywhere also have. 
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Originally posted by sgboy2004:go MINDEF...take a stone and throw...80% of the time u will hit a Major
..... well said. Even at Div HQ, there are more MAJs than CPTs, LTAs & 2LTs combined. Very often, WOs have to perform DO duties. -
The rank progression in the US Army is very different from our own.Our service time exigency requires us to have the rank thrown onto us quite fast by standards of a standing regular army.Originally posted by HENG@:my friend had exerience with them. They saw he was a medic CPL, were very suprised, asked him how old he was, becos its not easy for them to get e rank of CPL, whereas in SAF, CPL like sand lidat, everywhere also have.
Got this from the US Army's Development Counselling and Professional Development guide.The ranks shown are theirs, I placed our equivalent ranks or so in the brackets.
Promotions for enlisted soldiers to PV2(Private), PFC(LCP) and SPC(CPL) are decentralized. Soldiers receive automatic promotion to PV2 after 6 months time in service (TIS). Soldiers are automatically promoted to PFC after 12 months TIS and 4 months time in grade (TIG). Soldiers are automatically promoted to SPC after 26 months TIS and 6 months TIG. In all cases, promotions occur unless the commander takes action to prevent the promotion. Based on strength computations at the battalion level, there may be allocations available to promote soldiers earlier than the automatic TIG/TIS requirements.A SGT (3SG-1SG) might take them 36 months to get.A SSG(probably our SSG) takes 84 months, they have two more ranks, SFC(Sergeant First Class= our MSG) and SGM(Sergeant Major) which unlike the SAF, is an actual rank, not an appointment,
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manna just major, anyhow throw, COL also can hit ahOriginally posted by sgboy2004:go MINDEF...take a stone and throw...80% of the time u will hit a Major -
lol....Originally posted by HENG@:manna just major, anyhow throw, COL also can hit ah
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Yes - was on exercise with them a long time ago. The Americans were US Marines, who were just finished with their deployment in Iraq (right after the first gulf war, Desert Storm).Originally posted by Sardaukar:Has anybody ever trained with American soldiers?What are your views on them?What was your experience like?
Well - they were big in size, had their typical flat-top hair styles. They were on a high, esp. after victory in a war with Iraq. To me, they displayed a typical American air of arrogance. Some were friendly though - showing us photos of their wives and babies, while out in the field.
Funny thing was they were still using desert camoflage uniforms on our exercise in Tekong - so you see light coloured targets running around in a green environment. They had good equipment - an amphibious assault ship and amphibious APCs - and came out of the water landings a little drier too. I didn't get a chance to go on board the ship, although some others did.
The Americans were a little older, and like someone pointed out, were a little surprised how young our NCOs were (they being a professional force).
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Haha,desert camou running around in Jungle terrain.Anyway,they come here also act damn big fark liddat...show them the way we fight man.
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had some experience with some Navy SEALS from TEAM 8...Originally posted by SpecOps87:Haha,desert camou running around in Jungle terrain.Anyway,they come here also act damn big fark liddat...show them the way we fight man.
well not in the military context...
the ship that they were in were in changi a few years back...
they came over to my club to play some rugby...
we went thru sevens training and i've never noticed how they worship pain so much(sevens is damn tiring and painful)....they keep going and going with a sadistic grin on their face....
but when i spoke to them...its very motivational...the way they spoke....like oratorical warriors...and they motivated me to pursue my dream....
to one day be an Infantryman!!! -
haha well they MUST be fit to be in SEALs..
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This is no surprise. In 911, when the last plane crashed into Pentagon, more american stars generals died in that one incident than the stars in ALL wars combined.Originally posted by sgboy2004:go MINDEF...take a stone and throw...80% of the time u will hit a Major -
Send our LRRP or BRCs to train at Fort Bragg in our jungle camou.We'll fit in nicely..Originally posted by bcoy:Yes - was on exercise with them a long time ago. The Americans were US Marines, who were just finished with their deployment in Iraq (right after the first gulf war, Desert Storm).
Well - they were big in size, had their typical flat-top hair styles. They were on a high, esp. after victory in a war with Iraq. To me, they displayed a typical American air of arrogance. Some were friendly though - showing us photos of their wives and babies, while out in the field.
Funny thing was they were still using desert camoflage uniforms on our exercise in Tekong - so you see light coloured targets running around in a green environment. They had good equipment - an amphibious assault ship and amphibious APCs - and came out of the water landings a little drier too. I didn't get a chance to go on board the ship, although some others did.
The Americans were a little older, and like someone pointed out, were a little surprised how young our NCOs were (they being a professional force).
I belive these exercises are now routine everytime they stop over here or Malaysia.
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Each year an MEF goes to Malaysia( Sarawak i think) to train in jungle warfare...http://www.c7f.navy.mil/news/2002/7/9.htm Landing Force CARAT or something...Originally posted by bcoy:Yes - was on exercise with them a long time ago. The Americans were US Marines, who were just finished with their deployment in Iraq (right after the first gulf war, Desert Storm).
Well - they were big in size, had their typical flat-top hair styles. They were on a high, esp. after victory in a war with Iraq. To me, they displayed a typical American air of arrogance. Some were friendly though - showing us photos of their wives and babies, while out in the field.
Funny thing was they were still using desert camoflage uniforms on our exercise in Tekong - so you see light coloured targets running around in a green environment. They had good equipment - an amphibious assault ship and amphibious APCs - and came out of the water landings a little drier too. I didn't get a chance to go on board the ship, although some others did.
The Americans were a little older, and like someone pointed out, were a little surprised how young our NCOs were (they being a professional force).
I belive these exercises are now routine everytime they stop over here or Malaysia.
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In my honest opinion...best place to learn jungle warfare is to learn from the Malaysian Army(notably their Ranger Unit)...the Jungle warfare school(in Fort Bragg or Benning...couldnt recall cos it starts with a B) was set up with the help of the Malaysians if memory serves me well...[/url] -
Each year an MEF goes to Malaysia( Pahang i think) to train in jungle warfare...http://www.c7f.navy.mil/news/2002/7/9.htm Landing Force CARAT or something...Originally posted by bcoy:Yes - was on exercise with them a long time ago. The Americans were US Marines, who were just finished with their deployment in Iraq (right after the first gulf war, Desert Storm).
Well - they were big in size, had their typical flat-top hair styles. They were on a high, esp. after victory in a war with Iraq. To me, they displayed a typical American air of arrogance. Some were friendly though - showing us photos of their wives and babies, while out in the field.
Funny thing was they were still using desert camoflage uniforms on our exercise in Tekong - so you see light coloured targets running around in a green environment. They had good equipment - an amphibious assault ship and amphibious APCs - and came out of the water landings a little drier too. I didn't get a chance to go on board the ship, although some others did.
The Americans were a little older, and like someone pointed out, were a little surprised how young our NCOs were (they being a professional force).
I belive these exercises are now routine everytime they stop over here or Malaysia.
In my honest opinion...to learn jungle warfare is to learn from the Malaysian Army(notably their Ranger Unit)...the Jungle warfare school(in Fort Bragg or Benning...couldnt recall cos it starts with a B) was set up with the help of the Malaysians if memory serves me well...[/url] -
The Jungle Operations Training Center was at Fort Sherman, Panama until 1999 - I'm not sure where the current school is.
To say that JOTC was set up with help by Malaysians is inaccurate. It was set up in 1951, with some input from British, not Malayan, soldiers who were fighting in Malaya at the time. -
Just for info, I know for a fact that the U.S troops were rather impressed by the standards of the S'pore armed forces considering the fact that the S'pore troops aren't lifers in the military.Originally posted by bcoy:The Americans were a little older, and like someone pointed out, were a little surprised how young our NCOs were (they being a professional force).
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Yes, I've heard similar sentiments by a Special Forces fellow who was passing through on a training stint.Originally posted by John Ching:Just for info, I know for a fact that the U.S troops were rather impressed by the standards of the S'pore armed forces considering the fact that the S'pore troops aren't lifers in the military. -
i see...i just read somewhere that malaysian Jungle instructors were used..just cant recall the source...Originally posted by Gedanken:The Jungle Operations Training Center was at Fort Sherman, Panama until 1999 - I'm not sure where the current school is.
To say that JOTC was set up with help by Malaysians is inaccurate. It was set up in 1951, with some input from British, not Malayan, soldiers who were fighting in Malaya at the time. -
Just as a point of interest, it was in JOTC that Charlie Beckwith met some instructors from the British SAS and started developing his idea for Delta.
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What is a lifers?Originally posted by John Ching:Just for info, I know for a fact that the U.S troops were rather impressed by the standards of the S'pore armed forces considering the fact that the S'pore troops aren't lifers in the military. 
May be the Americans are being too polite! -
Lifers are career soldiers. Given that the US military only takes regulars, they are pretty impressed with the SAF's standard as a conscript army.
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Lifers refers to guys who sign on with the military till they retire.Originally posted by want to know:What is a lifers?
May be the Americans are being too polite!
Why can't you accept the fact that your army is being recognised as a professional force?
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actually this is partly wrong..he was on an exhange thingy with the SAS...he was so overly inspired with the SAS that he pushed for a US Army equivalent ala SFOD-D...he was their first CO...onli to be mudsucked on the failures of Desert One where majority of the blame is pushed unto him...Originally posted by Gedanken:Just as a point of interest, it was in JOTC that Charlie Beckwith met some instructors from the British SAS and started developing his idea for Delta.