Ways to perform combat reloading?
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Be cool!Originally posted by Johnston:Actually it's because the thread starter is a NCC personnel who failed basic RTH knowledge.
RECRUIT!
WHAT IS THIS LITTLE THING ON THE SIDE OF THE M16?!??????
SGT! IT IS CALLED A EASE-SPRING!
WRONG!
Knock it down now!
Knowledge is power, so its no harm for the starter to learn.
We learn from our mistakes, if we get a 2nd chance.
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*grin*
But i wonder how, and why, NCC personnel are allowed to fire the rifle before they pass RTH?
As i remembered, you had to do a whole lot of stuff before they allowed us to go to the range and shoot live rounds.
Load and unload a 30 round magazine.
Strip and reassemble a M16 (day/night)
IA drills.
Name every common part of the rifle correctly. -
Ah! The good old days, not!Originally posted by Johnston:*grin*
Load and unload a 30 round magazine.
Strip and reassemble a M16 (day/night)
IA drills.
Name every common part of the rifle correctly.
I thought I knew every weapon there was on sale before I joined the army. Shit fell from the sky & hit me smack on the head when I had to learn to strip & reassemble weapons from countries I can't even spell the names.
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CAn strip and assemble the M-16S1 in 1min blindfolded...
Its just sometimes people have different terms to call the same things.Besides,I always call that button thing the Ease-spring.Why?
When you go range u fire all ur rounds finish what does the Conducting officer say,"unload,assistants check cleat,ease-spring, squeeze tirgger." -
Where are you from actually, may I ask?Originally posted by John Ching:Ah! The good old days, not!
I thought I knew every weapon there was on sale before I joined the army. Shit fell from the sky & hit me smack on the head when I had to learn to strip & reassemble weapons from countries I can't even spell the names. -
I think they are talking about the button (I don't know what it is called) that you have to press before the magazine can be pulled out. Ease spring is the one at the left side of the rifle.Originally posted by SpecOps87:CAn strip and assemble the M-16S1 in 1min blindfolded...
Its just sometimes people have different terms to call the same things.Besides,I always call that button thing the Ease-spring.Why?
When you go range u fire all ur rounds finish what does the Conducting officer say,"unload,assistants check cleat,ease-spring, squeeze tirgger." -
Bloody hell....stop arguing....here's a extract from the 1979 US M16 manual...settle this once and for all:
from http://www.detonics.com/manuals/ -
this may be off topic...was wondering...if memory serves me well...the forward assist is to make sure empty casings exit forwards rite?Originally posted by 21Alpha:Bloody hell....stop arguing....here's a extract from the 1979 US M16 manual...settle this once and for all:
from http://www.detonics.com/manuals/ -
Nope.Its to help push the round to ensure it is able to sit properly in the chamber when there is a half-feeding.
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48 seconds was my record - my BMT section commander had too much of an ego to be pleased about it.Originally posted by SpecOps87:CAn strip and assemble the M-16S1 in 1min blindfolded...
Anyway, lesson learned from hard experience is that you ALWAYS release the bolt before slamming the new magazine in. The magazines are so soft that if it slap them in too hard, they go in too far and jam the weapon - this applies especially to the old, beat-up magazines used for training.
The forward assist was introduced when the propellant for the 5.56 round was changed. The new propellant left more carbon in the chamber, and the bolts sometimes did not go all the way forward when the charging handle was released. In such situations, the forward assist was used to push the bolt forward.
I'm from too long ago to know about the SAR-21, and I'm too decrepit to remember the exact procedure for loading the SAW. If I recall correctly, it was:
- remove old mag
- put in new mag
- pull charging handle
- stare incredulously at the handle that came off in your hand
- curse and swear as you try to slide the damned thing back into its rail
- run along to catch up with your section mates, who by that time have gotten 100 metres ahead of you. -
pls do not reveal how lousy SAR-21 is, we should follow the SAF and STs and say how gd it is only. The public likes to hear it and parents will be more assured dat the arm is indeed better than M-16. we should follow the trend and say what they wish to and hope to hear. the truth should remain buried until further notice. if something must be said, it got to be good....bad news are not meant to be known to public.Originally posted by Gedanken:48 seconds was my record - my BMT section commander had too much of an ego to be pleased about it.
Anyway, lesson learned from hard experience is that you ALWAYS release the bolt before slamming the new magazine in. The magazines are so soft that if it slap them in too hard, they go in too far and jam the weapon - this applies especially to the old, beat-up magazines used for training.
The forward assist was introduced when the propellant for the 5.56 round was changed. The new propellant left more carbon in the chamber, and the bolts sometimes did not go all the way forward when the charging handle was released. In such situations, the forward assist was used to push the bolt forward.
I'm from too long ago to know about the SAR-21, and I'm too decrepit to remember the exact procedure for loading the SAW. If I recall correctly, it was:
- remove old mag
- put in new mag
- pull charging handle
- stare incredulously at the handle that came off in your hand
- curse and swear as you try to slide the damned thing back into its rail
- run along to catch up with your section mates, who by that time have gotten 100 metres ahead of you.
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hahahaha man that was good..
john c: where are you from exactly? -
Well, if you're referring to whether I'm a S'porean or not, I can only say that I've been enjoying myself here.Originally posted by palmerised:hahahaha man that was good..
john c: where are you from exactly?
Hopefully I get to be with my family for Christmas. -
Ooooh - John Ching: International Man of Mystery!Originally posted by John Ching:Well, if you're referring to whether I'm a S'porean or not, I can only say that I've been enjoying myself here. -
Hahaha...! No mystery at all.Originally posted by Gedanken:Ooooh - John Ching: International Man of Mystery!
No fancy, bright color clothes or crazy wild parties.
Just your easy going everyday day joe. -
Perhaps the subtle monochrome of a tuxedo, then!Originally posted by John Ching:No fancy, bright color clothes or crazy wild parties. -
HAHAHA....!Originally posted by Gedanken:Perhaps the subtle monochrome of a tuxedo, then!
If I had to dress that way, I might as well be a french poodle.
Anyway, I'm not trying to beat around the BUSH.
But theres an advisory to all non-Asian in Asia to be cautious.
I may not be good looking but I like my head to remain intact with my sexy body. Hahaha....! -
Yes, well, in a foreign land it's always advisable to not lose your head. If you keep a cool head, you'll be able to see where things are headed and stay head and shoulders above the situation.Originally posted by John Ching:But theres an advisory to all non-Asian in Asia to be cautious.
I may not be good looking but I like my head to remain intact with my sexy body. Hahaha....! -
Hahaha...!Originally posted by Gedanken:Yes, well, in a foreign land it's always advisable to not lose your head. If you keep a cool head, you'll be able to see where things are headed and stay head and shoulders above the situation.
I think we've shifted to far from the original topic.
So, with regards to the topic, I just want to point out that reloading isn't really a problem under fire, for most soldiers, its getting the next mag from your vest thats the problem.
Because you'll most likely forget which mag is loaded & which isn't. -
Sar 21, same thing lar, just that it takes alot of practise to do a combat reload as fast as the m-16
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Er, seargant, do i pull this T-shaped thing to cock the weapon?Originally posted by SpecOps87:CAn strip and assemble the M-16S1 in 1min blindfolded...
Its just sometimes people have different terms to call the same things.Besides,I always call that button thing the Ease-spring.Why?
When you go range u fire all ur rounds finish what does the Conducting officer say,"unload,assistants check cleat,ease-spring, squeeze tirgger."
Yes you do you bloody cock!
Now drop and give me twenty!
T-shaped thing! It's called a CHARGING HANDLE!
You will repeat after me: CHARGING HANDLE.
*yawn*
One minute?
One minute is the standard. And after a few weeks of training, everybody could break that standard with eyes closed and in the dark.
Hmm.
Call a spade a spade. Not a "diggy thing". -
Dunno about that - I could usually tell if the mag was full or empty after pulling it out of the magazine pouch a bit. Oh the other hand, whenever I had the time, I would put my full magazines lips-up. It's contrary to SOP, but it allowed me to identify full nags by feel.Originally posted by John Ching:So, with regards to the topic, I just want to point out that reloading isn't really a problem under fire, for most soldiers, its getting the next mag from your vest thats the problem.
Because you'll most likely forget which mag is loaded & which isn't. -
Most guys do that - including myself.Originally posted by Gedanken:Dunno about that - I could usually tell if the mag was full or empty after pulling it out of the magazine pouch a bit. Oh the other hand, whenever I had the time, I would put my full magazines lips-up. It's contrary to SOP, but it allowed me to identify full nags by feel. -
My preferrence is just to throw the damn thing away since it only becomes dead-weight on the body.
However, lately theres some bit*hing about it going on about wasting tax-payers money, so I'm practicing putting the empty mag back into a slot .
Seriously, if bullets are hitting the wall which I used for cover, to hell with the empty mag. -
And what do taxpayers NOT bitch about?Originally posted by John Ching:My preferrence is just to throw the damn thing away since it only becomes dead-weight on the body.
However, lately theres some bit*hing about it going on about wasting tax-payers money, so I'm practicing putting the empty mag back into a slot .
Seriously, if bullets are hitting the wall which I used for cover, to hell with the empty mag.
What really makes it a pain in the arse is that a magazine that was designed to be used only once end up being a training magazine that's been slammed about a couple of hundred times. It's only a matter of course then that double-feeds and jams are a part of daily life.