Picture which pisses me off!
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I was browsing thru one of my old favourite sites HKPro.com when I ran across tis pic.. As ALL of us noe, safe gun handling is one of the TOP priorities for a police/military unit as the consequences of a firearm wif live ammunition in unprofessional hands will onlie result in disaster. The pic below is such an insult tat I juz cant help but post it! LoL!
This pic was taken in the 2002 World Cup in Korea of a police officer on duty. As all of us can already see, his finger is ON THE TRIGGER when it shld be off it. More shockingly, the gun is set to SEMI-AUTO!! Holey cripes! Tink he'll get into some deep-**** after tis pic though.. Hehe.. Oh yeah, notice the how his gun is held.. Angled towards a HUGE crowd.
**Any more of tese unprofessional pics to share? Post!"
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maybe he just saw osama
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or kim jong ilOriginally posted by blowfish:maybe he just saw osama -
how'd you tell when its on semi? the selector here looks like its on safe (with reference to the M-16 version)
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His mission is to kill and maim. -
Mid-1980s ad that appeared in police trade magazines and related firearms magazines for the MP5 Submachine gun. This ad combined two of the more well known HK slogans from the 80s. Note that the fingers are on the triggers as it had not yet become common practice to train finger off trigger (Rule 3) or be photographed that way. -
Originally posted by dRaKe86:
On the same page:
[b] As ALL of us noe, safe gun handling is one of the TOP priorities for a police/military unit as the consequences of a firearm wif live ammunition in unprofessional hands will onlie result in disaster. The pic below is such an insult tat I juz cant help but post it! LoL!
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Look! She wants to shoot someone!
Look! Let's shoot that guai lan guy!
The officer in question looks about 28 (conservative estimate).
He should not be unprofessional, or he wouldn't be assigned to such a high-profile assignment.
Look, maybe it was just a slip and he got snapped by someone watching him -
Well,anyone bothered to go Changi Airport to take a pic?Our troopers and the SOC boys also do the same.Fingers inside trigger guard although the weapon is on safe.Still its not a good practice.Finger should not be in trigger guard till one is ready to engage or when there is a threat.Hmmmz...show you alot bout the way they are trained ehz?
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hmm maybe just a slip,but its a dangerous one..
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Yes we can be sure that they are well trained and they know what part of the M16 to hit to perform a reload.Originally posted by SpecOps87:Well,anyone bothered to go Changi Airport to take a pic?Our troopers and the SOC boys also do the same.Fingers inside trigger guard although the weapon is on safe.Still its not a good practice.Finger should not be in trigger guard till one is ready to engage or when there is a threat.Hmmmz...show you alot bout the way they are trained ehz?
And they know it's not called a "ease-spring".
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We must take into account the fact that they are in public places. With lots of people looking at them and probably photographing them.Originally posted by beavan:hmm maybe just a slip,but its a dangerous one..
What if the officer in question was only taking his hand away to scratch his nose?
And just at that split second someone took a pix?
Ah.
Remember that that's not a video clip of the officer walkin around for a long time with finger inside the trigger guard. -
let me pose a question to you... would you have made such a big fuss if you saw a Sayaret Matkal Cdo/US Special Forces do the same thing? Granted, keeping your finger outside of the trigger guard is a safe practice, ESP. ard civilians...... but would you kick up as big a fuss if it was someone which you PERCEIVED to be better trained? just playing the devil's advocate here.... =)
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maybe he is just posing la
and I think his finger is outside the trigger ring or whatever you call it what... -
Originally posted by dRaKe86:
Look carefully at his whole hand, the trigger finger maybe touching on the trigger but the rest of his fingers are not gripping the weapon tight. Its not really a big deal as long as he doesn't shoot off.[/img][/b]
He is probably pumped up by the sight of the large number of civilians attending the match & mentaly worries that he might missed a bad guy.
Anyway, I think the female counter-sniper looks kind of sexy with that PSG.
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FYI hor, don't quote my name to anyone. There was one time whereby the mags are empty except the police leading infront.Originally posted by SpecOps87:Well,anyone bothered to go Changi Airport to take a pic?Our troopers and the SOC boys also do the same.Fingers inside trigger guard although the weapon is on safe.Still its not a good practice.Finger should not be in trigger guard till one is ready to engage or when there is a threat.Hmmmz...show you alot bout the way they are trained ehz? -
John, it's not a PSG.
It's an MSG.
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Let's pause to remember the words of the "Delta" Operator in Black Hawk Down.Originally posted by gonegoose:let me pose a question to you... would you have made such a big fuss if you saw a Sayaret Matkal Cdo/US Special Forces do the same thing? Granted, keeping your finger outside of the trigger guard is a safe practice, ESP. ard civilians...... .... =)
Soldier, why is your safety off?
*raises trigger finger*
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I have the dubious opportunity to work on J I (go figure) where security is tight and go through the checkpoint every day.
Most of those doing sentry duty are NS Men (Reservist), sometimes NSF together with CISCO etc. Most times spot them with finger "on" trigger; till someone wrote in and a change in "Standing Orders" put a stop to it. (although still spot sentries 'sitting down' at times).
Having your finger on the trigger is ill-advised (as this is poor weapon safety). The M-16 has space on the pistol grip for all 4 fingers (your tumb wraps round other side duh!) as original design was for larger hands. The SAR 21, being local design is designed for asian users with a shorter pistol grip.
The tendancy for your index/pointing finger to 'stray' onto the trigger is hard to suppress. Blame it on this small oversight, as well as economy on materials, .
It may also be interesting to ask if all weapons basic design parameters pre-suposes that finger "on" the trigger; is more likely state than, finger 'off' the trigger. -
Do sentries do duty with a round already chambered?
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wah the gurl chio lehOriginally posted by Johnston:On the same page:
Look! She wants to shoot someone!
Look! Let's shoot that guai lan guy!
The officer in question looks about 28 (conservative estimate).
He should not be unprofessional, or he wouldn't be assigned to such a high-profile assignment.
Look, maybe it was just a slip and he got snapped by someone watching him
must be a cold hearted sniper.
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no.Originally posted by ultimax100:Do sentries do duty with a round already chambered? -
maybe their mag not loaded, so then they dare to put finger on trigger
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I'm sure he put his finger on trigger only because he didn't cock the weapon yet, so it is perfectly safe. I think it is normal practice for people who are acting merely as guards to not cock the weapon. You only cock your weapon when the threat is obvious like for example, we are police, and now we know the location of one bunch of drug traffickers. Then we go and attack them traffickers, so on the way before we reach the building where they are hiding, we cock the weapon. Things like that etc..... Not cock the weapon when there is no clear threat. It would be dangerous if police go around with cocked weapons.
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uh huh as other people have already pointed out, if a round hasn't been chambered (ie. the rifle hasn't been cocked), having a finger on the trigger isn't dangerous at all. It's sloppy soldiering at worst.Originally posted by Johnston:no. -
Haha, maybe like the SAF, it's just an empty mag and the loaded one is in the SBO... in which case, they, like us unlucky guard duty personnel, walk around with the weapon in semi all the time...