SureFire Torchlights
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Hi Friends....
can anyone enlighten me if the above torchlight is available for sale is Singapore? if yes, where can i get them....
thanks...
chris -
Sheares Technology, s shop that is opposite Shaw Lesuire Galleries in the corner of this old chinese building along Beach RdOriginally posted by Panerai:Hi Friends....
can anyone enlighten me if the above torchlight is available for sale is Singapore? if yes, where can i get them....
thanks...
chris
They sell lots of gear, especially those high end military gear from Blackhawk Industries, knifes etc ... -
SNG Arms in Beach Rd also sell, maybe u can go recce and compare prices..Originally posted by one-niner:Sheares Technology, s shop that is opposite Shaw Lesuire Galleries in the corner of this old chinese building along Beach Rd
They sell lots of gear, especially those high end military gear from Blackhawk Industries, knifes etc ... -
Sheares , very expensive and salepeople very yar yar papaya !!!Originally posted by one-niner:Sheares Technology, s shop that is opposite Shaw Lesuire Galleries in the corner of this old chinese building along Beach Rd
They sell lots of gear, especially those high end military gear from Blackhawk Industries, knifes etc ...
Go to China town - Sng Arms , they seem desperate to sell, can give you discount. -
china town still have meh? i cannot find it liao leh..
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Hmm! I've just been in the shop recently, though not my first time, I did not encounter any of the staff with the attitude like what you've claimed or maybe it was my lucky day.Originally posted by storywolf:Sheares , very expensive and salepeople very yar yar papaya !!!
Go to China town - Sng Arms , they seem desperate to sell, can give you discount.
I've also found the prices of their products to be quite reasonable, though I would not say cheap. Anyway, toys for MAN have always been pricey so if you want products that are reliable & good after sale service, then paying the price for the product is really not a pain in the wallet.
Then again, if you are willing & have the time to go hunting for shops that offer the same products at a lower cost, then all means go on.
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hmm i do agree with John, i don't noe whom were u served by, but the staff at Sheares are friendly and very understanding IMO.infact they would talk to us,asking us for our feedback regarding product enhancments or how can they bring in quality products like Hydrastorm bladders, gear to the units. Not too sure if they hired some tom dick or harry, but the salesmen are a pretty close knitted bunch...one of the staff there ( don't noe if he is still ard) was the 1st NSF commando leader who passed Ranger training couple of yrs back (correct me if i am wrong) they are quite sincere with their sales and after sales support..Originally posted by John Ching:Hmm! I've just been in the shop recently, though not my first time, I did not encounter any of the staff with the attitude like what you've claimed or maybe it was my lucky day.
I've also found the prices of their products to be quite reasonable, though I would not say cheap. Anyway, toys for MAN have always been pricey so if you want products that are reliable & good after sale service, then paying the price for the product is really not a pain in the wallet.
Then again, if you are willing & have the time to go hunting for shops that offer the same products at a lower cost, then all means go on. -
surefire is overpriced here, rather u get from ebay. i know a dealer of surefire and other tactical stuff....
if u really keen let me knoiw -
With regards to ebay buying, its interesting. Is the item sold in U.S currency, Euros or Sing$? Does the product need to be flown in or shipped in? Would the cost include the shipping or flying cost? Will there be any garantee for damages? Is there any after sale service?Originally posted by chunyong:surefire is overpriced here, rather u get from ebay. i know a dealer of surefire and other tactical stuff.... if u really keen let me knoiw
Dealers are also no very reliable if cause they are likely to charge you a third party fee to the cost of the product. And who knows, the dealer might also have bought the product from the shop you're dismissing. Unless you are recommanding the manufacturer, from U.S, of the product directly to the buyer, then hey, no one can fault the trust there. -
i get things at the price dealers get cos he is my friend. its really un-necessary to buy surefire...its over advertised and u won't need it anyway cos if u do need one, SAF/SPF will provide.Originally posted by John Ching:With regards to ebay buying, its interesting. Is the item sold in U.S currency, Euros or Sing$? Does the product need to be flown in or shipped in? Would the cost include the shipping or flying cost? Will there be any garantee for damages? Is there any after sale service?
Dealers are also no very reliable if cause they are likely to charge you a third party fee to the cost of the product. And who knows, the dealer might also have bought the product from the shop you're dismissing. Unless you are recommanding the manufacturer, from U.S, of the product directly to the buyer, then hey, no one can fault the trust there. -
hmm..those exact same sentiments prevented me from buy a watch from eBay..dame ..but i like the Sinn 156 ....*sigh*Originally posted by John Ching:With regards to ebay buying, its interesting. Is the item sold in U.S currency, Euros or Sing$? Does the product need to be flown in or shipped in? Would the cost include the shipping or flying cost? Will there be any garantee for damages? Is there any after sale service?
Dealers are also no very reliable if cause they are likely to charge you a third party fee to the cost of the product. And who knows, the dealer might also have bought the product from the shop you're dismissing. Unless you are recommanding the manufacturer, from U.S, of the product directly to the buyer, then hey, no one can fault the trust there.
Well Surefire is a darn gd tactical light to use, i was told that ST Tech was trying to install surefire lights on the SAR 21 for use by the trail Bn for FIBUA ..maybe its hearsay,maybe its true, but its high time they do something abt that. my Unit used to use engerzier torchlight attached to our rifles with blacktape and rubber bandsand instead of the recommended 4 batteries, they provided us with 2 and the power emitted was more sufficient for concert hall candence song singing ..*sigh*
The downside of Surefire is the cost and batteries right ? just image 4 Lithium Ion batteries giving 1 hr of continous usage, okay fair enough no one ask u on the torch for 1 hr ..but the replacement and resupp will be a problem .. -
No fault here, I fully agreed with you that if you've got no use for the product then is there a need to buy it?Originally posted by chunyong:i get things at the price dealers get cos he is my friend. its really un-necessary to buy surefire...its over advertised and u won't need it anyway cos if u do need one, SAF/SPF will provide.
But as a man, we tend to buy things we don't really need till one dark & moonless night. just like I've got alot of workman tools at home but still have yet to figure out what to use with them.
Its good that your army & police will provide you with the items as & when you need it. As you probably already know, in the U.S military at this moment, its having a short-fall of logistic items to supply to it troops in the frontline. Most of the troops are getting their supplies from their families & supporting organisations. So it actually isn't a problem to have your own stuff then to depend on others for it. -
dame sad case aye the Americans ? those poor american soldiers are fighting when their country called them to ..and yet ..they been protrayed badly ..the case of the soldier shooting wounded insurgents.....the media playing up the lack of discipline among the soldiers..sheesh ....sometimes i really hope to throw some of these whistleblowers into the frontline where they meet the insurgents face to face....Originally posted by John Ching:No fault here, I fully agreed with you that if you've got no use for the product then is there a need to buy it?
But as a man, we tend to buy things we don't really need till one dark & moonless night. just like I've got alot of workman tools at home but still have yet to figure out what to use with them.
Its good that your army & police will provide you with the items as & when you need it. As you probably already know, in the U.S military at this moment, its having a short-fall of logistic items to supply to it troops in the frontline. Most of the troops are getting their supplies from their families & supporting organisations. So it actually isn't a problem to have your own stuff then to depend on others for it.
Just sidestepping,do u think Mr Rumsfield is a reliable man ? he gives me the impression,his those sleazy kind of politician ..dame..the amt of supplies that the soldier families are sending to their loved ones...instead of the armyl... -
You've got good taste for watches I see.Originally posted by one-niner:hmm..those exact same sentiments prevented me from buy a watch from eBay..dame ..but i like the Sinn 156 ....*sigh*
Well Surefire is a darn gd tactical light to use, i was told that ST Tech was trying to install surefire lights on the SAR 21 for use by the trail Bn for FIBUA ..maybe its hearsay,maybe its true, but its high time they do something abt that. my Unit used to use engerzier torchlight attached to our rifles with blacktape and rubber bandsand instead of the recommended 4 batteries, they provided us with 2 and the power emitted was more sufficient for concert hall candence song singing ..*sigh*
The downside of Surefire is the cost and batteries right ? just image 4 Lithium Ion batteries giving 1 hr of continous usage, okay fair enough no one ask u on the torch for 1 hr ..but the replacement and resupp will be a problem ..
Unfortuanately it is costly since its made in Europe where renown watch makers are usually found.
Anyway, with regards to surefire, its no harm carrying another torch light if you must. Back when I was working as a park-ranger, for about 2 months, I carried a maglite & a surefire. I used the mag when I had to do some pro-long tracking for missing hikers & surefire when I need to brighten areas in a distance. Since the combine weight of the 2 torch aren't that heavy, it wasn't a problem for me to carry both on my belt. I must admit that there people who were wonderring why I need 1 torch.
So in the end, it really isn't harmful to own at least 1 surefire torch without having ever to use it until that one moonless & dark night comes along. I own 1 myself, my brother own 6 surefire torch of various models, so I'm not the crazy one.
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surefire not cheap.....and the batts cost 5 bucks per 'cylinder'...ex....Originally posted by John Ching:No fault here, I fully agreed with you that if you've got no use for the product then is there a need to buy it?
But as a man, we tend to buy things we don't really need till one dark & moonless night. just like I've got alot of workman tools at home but still have yet to figure out what to use with them.
Its good that your army & police will provide you with the items as & when you need it. As you probably already know, in the U.S military at this moment, its having a short-fall of logistic items to supply to it troops in the frontline. Most of the troops are getting their supplies from their families & supporting organisations. So it actually isn't a problem to have your own stuff then to depend on others for it. -
As long as the media doesn't takes side or make up its stories, its not really a bad thing to have them around. They help remind the troops that their actions are being watch by the world, how they fight, how they handle prisoners, et cetra plays a great deal to them who calls themselves professionals.Originally posted by one-niner:dame sad case aye the Americans ? those poor american soldiers are fighting when their country called them to ..and yet ..they been protrayed badly ..the case of the soldier shooting wounded insurgents.....the media playing up the lack of discipline among the soldiers..sheesh ....sometimes i really hope to throw some of these whistleblowers into the frontline where they meet the insurgents face to face....
Just sidestepping,do u think Mr Rumsfield is a reliable man ? he gives me the impression,his those sleazy kind of politician ..dame..the amt of supplies that the soldier families are sending to their loved ones...instead of the armyl...
Honestly, I think Rumsfield is Ooold! Due to the prisoner abuse case & others, he does come across as being sleazy but the truth is that he is hell-bent on getting this war started & ended before he sleeps. So he is doing all he can to ensure that this war will not be like, what everyone likes to compare, the Vietnam war. And as we can see, its not easy.
In a different view, if Rumsfield is appointed as Sec of State, then America would be in deep crap. I guess thats why the Bush didn't change Rumsfield appointment. -
So are u a fellow Sinner ?? haha..well i like this particular watch cause it was based on the now-defunct Lemania 5100 movenment, another intresting point, is its was a MILSPEC watch that was issued to the senior specialists and officers in the German Armed Forces and to the Defence Forces in Swizerland.Originally posted by John Ching:You've got good taste for watches I see.
Unfortuanately it is costly since its made in Europe where renown watch makers are usually found.
Anyway, with regards to surefire, its no harm carrying another torch light if you must. Back when I was working as a park-ranger, for about 2 months, I carried a maglite & a surefire. I used the mag when I had to do some pro-long tracking for missing hikers & surefire when I need to brighten areas in a distance. Since the combine weight of the 2 torch aren't that heavy, it wasn't a problem for me to carry both on my belt. I must admit that there people who were wonderring why I need 1 torch.
So in the end, it really isn't harmful to own at least 1 surefire torch without having ever to use it until that one moonless & dark night comes along. I own 1 myself, my brother own 6 surefire torch of various models, so I'm not the crazy one. -
Luckly I'm not into collectors watches even though they are quite interesting.Originally posted by one-niner:So are u a fellow Sinner ?? haha..well i like this particular watch cause it was based on the now-defunct Lemania 5100 movenment, another intresting point, is its was a MILSPEC watch that was issued to the senior specialists and officers in the German Armed Forces and to the Defence Forces in Swizerland.
I really hate the ideal of companies using the military to launch their products. In the U.S the most hated product for me is the Oakley sunglasses, it used to be dirt cheap then when the SpecOps guys were featured wearing it the price started to rise. Of course, it wasn't just the SpecOps guys that caused the problem.
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The 156 is a nice watch, although the acrylic crystal does rule it out as a beater, since it's too easy to scratch.Originally posted by one-niner:So are u a fellow Sinner ?? haha..well i like this particular watch cause it was based on the now-defunct Lemania 5100 movenment, another intresting point, is its was a MILSPEC watch that was issued to the senior specialists and officers in the German Armed Forces and to the Defence Forces in Swizerland. -
The worst culprit is Luminox, what with their Navy SEALs promotion. I know a couple of guys whose Luminox SEAL models all broke at the lower springbar - it seems to be a design defect. There's no point in wearing a so-called tough watch if the damned thing isn't going to stay on your wrist.Originally posted by John Ching:Luckly I'm not into collectors watches even though they are quite interesting.
I really hate the ideal of companies using the military to launch their products. In the U.S the most hated product for me is the Oakley sunglasses, it used to be dirt cheap then when the SpecOps guys were featured wearing it the price started to rise. Of course, it wasn't just the SpecOps guys that caused the problem.
I'd take a Royal Navy issue Submariner on a NATO strap anytime. -
Heres a little information thats not really significant but most NAVY SEALs wear cheap Jap watches. Either that or they'll go for more robust watches made for heavy activities.Originally posted by Gedanken:The worst culprit is Luminox, what with their Navy SEALs promotion. I know a couple of guys whose Luminox SEAL models all broke at the lower springbar - it seems to be a design defect. There's no point in wearing a so-called tough watch if the damned thing isn't going to stay on your wrist.
I'd take a Royal Navy issue Submariner on a NATO strap anytime.
Guys from Army Special Forces are abit of a mix, younger guys go for branded stuff while older grunts go for stuff that they can count on.
So try not to believe every advert that says that their product are used by Spec Ops folks because its not always true. Speaking of which the most common advert that uses SpecOps to promot their products are those so called martial art schools. Just because 1 or 2 chaps from SpecOps took up 1 class & next day the school would claim that all SpecOps folks learn from them. -
Yeah, I know what you mean - I've known a few guys from the SF community in my time. I was talking about Luminox using such marketing tactics. It's sickening how a watch with a cheeseball springbar could be marketed as being tough.Originally posted by John Ching:Heres a little information thats not really significant but most NAVY SEALs wear cheap Jap watches. Either that or they'll go for more robust watches made for heavy activities.
Guys from Army Special Forces are abit of a mix, younger guys go for branded stuff while older grunts go for stuff that they can count on.
So try not to believe every advert that says that their product are used by Spec Ops folks because its not always true. Speaking of which the most common advert that uses SpecOps to promot their products are those so called martial art schools. Just because 1 or 2 chaps from SpecOps took up 1 class & next day the school would claim that all SpecOps folks learn from them.
From experience, my vote would go to Seiko's trusty old 150/200M diver's watch. It took everything I could throw at it for two and a half years, at a time when G-Shocks had a life expectancy of three months. Hell, I liked it so much that it finally took a Rolex Sea Dweller to replace it on my wrist, and only after seventeen years.
An addendum to my last post - the RN Sub also had an acrylic crystal (unlike the current model's sapphire crystal), but it was tough nonetheless, and the movement had bulletproof reliability. -
yeah ...MILSPEC watches required the crystal to be acrylic for the safety purpose that a acrylic crystal will crack, where by the sapphire crystal glass will shatter hence even more hazard.even the Omega Speedmaster which was worn to the moon, was a acrylic crystal...Originally posted by Gedanken:Yeah, I know what you mean - I've known a few guys from the SF community in my time. I was talking about Luminox using such marketing tactics. It's sickening how a watch with a cheeseball springbar could be marketed as being tough.
From experience, my vote would go to Seiko's trusty old 150/200M diver's watch. It took everything I could throw at it for two and a half years, at a time when G-Shocks had a life expectancy of three months. Hell, I liked it so much that it finally took a Rolex Sea Dweller to replace it on my wrist, and only after seventeen years.
An addendum to my last post - the RN Sub also had an acrylic crystal (unlike the current model's sapphire crystal), but it was tough nonetheless, and the movement had bulletproof reliability.
well i agree with some statements that John mention rgding the use of the Miltary to sell their products..in the case of Sinn, Rolex and IWC, the armed forces actually contracted these companies to produce MILSPEC watches for their personnel..
If u do a search on the history of IWC,Panerai,Rolex and JLC, these famous brands actually supplied watches to their respective military as a standard issue....infact the Panerai Luminor Series was infact a only-military watch that the company sold, only after Verdemont(not too sure abt the spelling) and Richemont did they managed to persuade the Italian Navy to produce limited editions of the same watch the Italian Navy was using back during WW2 ..
so its a different ball game there..haa...but i do understnad the feeling of using a $2k over watch while in OPs..kinda of expensive option, though the G Shocks are reliable, they are battery driven and can be pretty annoying when u need to change batteries outfield..i personnally use a cheap casio $30 watch that is strapped to my pen slot in my long 4 when ever i go for excercise.i dont like to wear my watch on my wrist..haha...just a pet peeve i had..lazy to roll up the sleeve to see the time ..=) -
a normal g-shock is sufficient for Ops lah....no need those branded ones, its all the same...wat matters most is up there, what watch u wear doesn't affect
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Can't say I agree entirely. My trusty old Seiko did the job admirably, and it cost me $150 in 1987. On the other hand, G-Shocks didn't stand up to our training.Originally posted by chunyong:a normal g-shock is sufficient for Ops lah....no need those branded ones, its all the same...wat matters most is up there, what watch u wear doesn't affect