Light armoured regiment for Singapore?
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The lastest Pioneer magazine have an article on the Strykers. The US have been trading some Abrams and Bradleys for this new vehicle to form a new light armoured division.They will enable us to participate in overseas peace-keeping(sure to increase in the future) missions more protected. I am wondering if we can have one of these as well, we can start with the new Terrex from ST.
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I think we're quite light already, the sm1s weigh half the weight of a bx, and close to the matchboxes.
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Seems quite suitable for built up areas. From what i've read, these strykers can really take lots of punishment... last december in mosul iraq one even made it back to base under its own power, with no casualties, after a car bomb exploding next to it
i'm not an expert, but isn't the chassis of the stryker the same as that of the LAV used by the US marines? -
it survived through all that because of it's odd looking "cage" which is basically a armoured plate of slates all around it that extends around 1m away frm it.So it was that close to the bomb.
And it's built for transport and not to fight....so it has a higher carrying capacity then the Brads.
Or so some marines say -
it survived through all that because of it's odd looking "cage" which is basically a armoured plate of slates all around it that extends around 1m away frm it.So it was that close to the bomb.
And it's built for transport and not to fight....so it has a higher carrying capacity then the Brads.
Or so some soldiers say -
The soldiers had to manually weld the cage to the Stryker or something right?
I remember reading an article somewhere regarding this..... It was only after Iraq war when it was realised that the cage would be able to reduce the effects of RPGs. It would cause the RPG warhead to detonate some distance away from the body of the stryker itself. This would cause the plasma jet of the exploding RPG to burn itself out before it reaches the body of the stryker. -
The closest thing would be the Armoured Support Unit (ASU), which operates the upgraded V200 vehicles for a Guards brigade. Not too sure if the V200 will be replaced by the Terrex, the Bronco performs just as well.Originally posted by tankee1981:The lastest Pioneer magazine have an article on the Strykers. The US have been trading some Abrams and Bradleys for this new vehicle to form a new light armoured division.They will enable us to participate in overseas peace-keeping(sure to increase in the future) missions more protected. I am wondering if we can have one of these as well, we can start with the new Terrex from ST.
A heavy APC would be more suited in an urban warfare setting - at least looking at Israel's experience. -
A heavy APC will defeat the purpose of Stryker! US want something airborne,quick deployment and offer some protection with speed and light weight while the Israel only operates in their region which require no air transportation that's why all their stuff is so heavy(strong armour)Originally posted by bcoy:The closest thing would be the Armoured Support Unit (ASU), which operates the upgraded V200 vehicles for a Guards brigade. Not too sure if the V200 will be replaced by the Terrex, the Bronco performs just as well.
A heavy APC would be more suited in an urban warfare setting - at least looking at Israel's experience. -
the merkava..Originally posted by bcoy:The closest thing would be the Armoured Support Unit (ASU), which operates the upgraded V200 vehicles for a Guards brigade. Not too sure if the V200 will be replaced by the Terrex, the Bronco performs just as well.
A heavy APC would be more suited in an urban warfare setting - at least looking at Israel's experience.
lol
vehicle with the identity crisis
to be a tank...or not to be...
to be a apc...or not to be.... -
Israel is now developing an APC based on the Merkava chassis. Most likely it would be the older versions of the Merkava with the turret removed.Originally posted by sidestep1984:the merkava..
lol
vehicle with the identity crisis
to be a tank...or not to be...
to be a apc...or not to be....
http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/howtomakewar/default.asp?target=HTARM.HTM
January 11, 2005: Israel has decided not to buy American Stryker wheeled armored vehicles for two of its infantry brigades. Instead, it has designed a new armored personnel carrier (APC) based on the chassis of older Merkava I and II series tanks. These tanks are being retired, and one such Merkava I is being turned into a prototype of the new “Nemerah” (“Tigress”) vehicle. This APC has the thick armor of the Merkava, but the turret is removed and a remotely controlled (from inside the vehicle) heavy machine-gun would be added. The Merkava lends itself to this kind of modification, because the engine is mounted in the front and there is already a door in the back of the vehicle. The Israelis liked the speed of the Stryker, but they apparently feel they will still be fighting in urban areas, against Palestinian terrorists, in the next ten years. There, the Nemerah has an edge, because of its thicker armor. Out in the open, the Stryker has the edge. If the Israelis cannot afford to build the Nenerah, they will add armor to their existing supply of M-113 APCs.
For disscusions on Israel's concept of IFV vs APC and light vs heavy, visit the tanknet forums.
Anyway - back to the topic on Singapore's light armoured vehicles - not too sure if the V200 will be replaced by the Terrex or Bronco. (both can do peacekeeping as well) -
IMO, V200 maybe good for infantry fire support but it lacks troop carrying capability, and it's profile is kinda high. Since this topic is abt fighting vehicles, i dunno abt bronco - its too thin-skinned though great for MSR duties or humanitarian work as witnessed recently in Aceh. So terrex is ideal by default thenOriginally posted by bcoy:Anyway - back to the topic on Singapore's light armoured vehicles - not too sure if the V200 will be replaced by the Terrex or Bronco. (both can do peacekeeping as well) -
The Terrex is similar to the Stryker in terms of profile.
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TOASTED .......
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Some versions of Bronco are armor-plated but V200 is aluminium skin. Terrex is made of steel. FYI.Originally posted by IAF:IMO, V200 maybe good for infantry fire support but it lacks troop carrying capability, and it's profile is kinda high. Since this topic is abt fighting vehicles, i dunno abt bronco - its too thin-skinned though great for MSR duties or humanitarian work as witnessed recently in Aceh. So terrex is ideal by default then -
i stand corrected!Originally posted by Manager433:Some versions of Bronco are armor-plated but V200 is aluminium skin. Terrex is made of steel. FYI.
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The British found that out in N Ireland in the 70's. Note new versions of RPG rockets have warheads and fuzes specifically to counter that.Originally posted by fudgester:The soldiers had to manually weld the cage to the Stryker or something right?
I remember reading an article somewhere regarding this..... It was only after Iraq war when it was realised that the cage would be able to reduce the effects of RPGs. It would cause the RPG warhead to detonate some distance away from the body of the stryker itself. This would cause the plasma jet of the exploding RPG to burn itself out before it reaches the body of the stryker. -
V-200 is made of Cadloy armor steel .Originally posted by Manager433:Some versions of Bronco are armor-plated but V200 is aluminium skin. Terrex is made of steel. FYI.
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