Indon Battle Plans (Note 3/10 Brigades for Singapore front)
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Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat
(Indonesian Army)
ORDER OF BATTLE:
* Kostrad - As the main mobile forces of the Angkatan Darat, the Kostrad includes all of the heavy mechanized units. In the event of a conflict, the Kostrad would reinforce the troops of the local Kodam on the defensive, and would be responsible for any large scale offensive operations.
o 1st Brigade (Presidential Guard) - Djakarta
o 2nd Armored Brigade (Tracked) - Indochinese Border
* o 3rd Mech Brigade (Hover) - Singapore
o 4th Armored Brigade (Hover) - Medan
o 5th Mech Brigade (Hover) - Andaman Islands
o 6th Mech Brigade (Tracked) - Bandar Seri Begawan
o 7th Armored Brigade (Tracked) - Djakarta
o 8th Mech Brigade (Hover) - Palembang
o 9th Infantry Brigade (Wheeled) - Djakarta
* o 10th Air Assault Brigade - Singapore
o 11th Infantry Brigade (Wheeled) - Indochinese Border
o 12th Infantry Brigade (Hover) - Indochinese Border
o 13th Infantry Brigade (Hover) - Andaman Islands
o 14th Infantry Brigade (Wheeled) - Kuala Lumpur
o 15th Infantry Brigade (Wheeled)- Irian Jaya
o 16th Air Assault Brigade - Palembang
o 17th Infantry Brigade (Hover) - Medan
o 18th Infantry Brigade (Hover) - Sulawesi
o 19th Infantry Brigade (Wheeled) - West Borneo
o 20th Infantry Brigade (Wheeled) - Surabaya
o 510th Armored Cavalry Regiment
o 511th Armored Cavalry Regiment
o 512th Armored Cavalry Regiment
o 305th Air Assault battalion - Djakarta
o 306th Air Assault battalion - Kuala Lumpur
o 407th Air Assault battalion - Sulawesi
o 408th Air Assault battalion - Medan
o 101st Fixed Air Defense battalion - Djakarta
o 102nd Fixed Air Defense battalion - Singapore
o 203rd Fixed Air Defense battalion - Kuala Lumpur
o 204th Fixed Air Defense battalion - Bandar Seri Begawan
* Kopassus - Special Forces, organized as two brigades of partially mechanized units, and one independent battalion of partially mechanized (the 4th Gurhka Bn)
o 21st Special Forces Group - Djakarta
o 22nd Special Forces Group - Bandar Seri Begawan
o 4th Gurkha Detasemen - Bandar Seri Begawan
* Kodams - Regional garrisons, mostly Category I Infantry units. The Kodams provide internal security and border patrols, and would probably be the first units engaged in combat in the event of an enemy attack. Organized as 7 brigades and 3 independent battalions of Infantry.
o Djakarta Brigade - Western Java
o Singapore Brigade - Singapore
o Malaya Brigade - Near Malaya-Indochina border
o Borneo Brigade - Brunei
o Papau Brigade - Along border with Papua New Guinea
o Palembang Brigade - Southern Sumatra
o Sulawesi Brigade - Island of Sulawesi
o Timor Battalion - Island of East Timor
o Surabaya Battalion - East Java
o Pontianak Battalion - West Borneo, near the catapult launch center
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jjabbott/IndoPage/indo_Army.htm -
Its a fantasy game data.
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At the moment, nothing to worry abt the TNI, it has been since 97.
Becos the TNI don't have the airpower and air lift to do much, with the limited budget and arms embargo by the US, it is not as strong as in the early 90s but they are slowly recovering , maybe another decade to recover back to their former glory.
Just look at Aceh, she need SAF & other forces to open transport links via sea and air due to Tsunami.
Why is that so especially since they do have one of the largest armed forces in SEA??
Simply becos they simply dun have the equipment to do the job, let alone invading another country. -
TNI doesn't want war - its primary goal is still to prevent Indonesia from falling apart. It has enough internal problems of its own. Units in Kostrad are already stretch to its limits and in recent years - there has been joint annual exercises between TNI and SAF, which reflects on warm ties.Originally posted by gary1910:At the moment, nothing to worry abt the TNI, it has been since 97.
Becos the TNI don't have the airpower and air lift to do much, with the limited budget and arms embargo by the US, it is not as strong as in the early 90s but they are slowly recovering , maybe another decade to recover back to their former glory.
Just look at Aceh, she need SAF & other forces to open transport links via sea and air due to Tsunami.
Why is that so especially since they do have one of the largest armed forces in SEA??
Simply becos they simply dun have the equipment to do the job, let alone invading another country. -
Yup, we sold arms , upgraded their equipment and even donated our entire basic trainer a/cs to them.Originally posted by bcoy:TNI doesn't want war - its primary goal is still to prevent Indonesia from falling apart. It has enough internal problems of its own. Units in Kostrad are already stretch to its limits and in recent years - there has been joint annual exercises between TNI and SAF, which reflects on warm ties.
So far we dun any quarrel with them, in fact I think our armed forces are even closer than in political level. -
It's all money politic in the TNI!
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It's true that ABRI's role is defensive, preserving the integration of Indonesia. They are busy fighting against internal threats. They have inherent weakness which make it very difficult for them to launch an offensive attack against anybody.
Some Internet link that I've found on ABRI.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/indonesia/abri.htm
http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usawc/Parameters/97spring/dillon.htm
http://www.idss.edu.sg/WorkingPapers/wp73.pdf
A good book to read:
The Armed Forces of Indonesia by Robert Lowry(available in NLB) -
Wow I am impress !!! go so many invisble units.Originally posted by idwar:Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat
(Indonesian Army)
ORDER OF BATTLE:
* Kostrad - As the main mobile forces of the Angkatan Darat, the Kostrad includes all of the heavy mechanized units. In the event of a conflict, the Kostrad would reinforce the troops of the local Kodam on the defensive, and would be responsible for any large scale offensive operations.
o 1st Brigade (Presidential Guard) - Djakarta
o 2nd Armored Brigade (Tracked) - Indochinese Border
* o 3rd Mech Brigade (Hover) - Singapore
o 4th Armored Brigade (Hover) - Medan
o 5th Mech Brigade (Hover) - Andaman Islands
o 6th Mech Brigade (Tracked) - Bandar Seri Begawan
o 7th Armored Brigade (Tracked) - Djakarta
o 8th Mech Brigade (Hover) - Palembang
o 9th Infantry Brigade (Wheeled) - Djakarta
* o 10th Air Assault Brigade - Singapore
o 11th Infantry Brigade (Wheeled) - Indochinese Border
o 12th Infantry Brigade (Hover) - Indochinese Border
o 13th Infantry Brigade (Hover) - Andaman Islands
o 14th Infantry Brigade (Wheeled) - Kuala Lumpur
o 15th Infantry Brigade (Wheeled)- Irian Jaya
o 16th Air Assault Brigade - Palembang
o 17th Infantry Brigade (Hover) - Medan
o 18th Infantry Brigade (Hover) - Sulawesi
o 19th Infantry Brigade (Wheeled) - West Borneo
o 20th Infantry Brigade (Wheeled) - Surabaya
o 510th Armored Cavalry Regiment
o 511th Armored Cavalry Regiment
o 512th Armored Cavalry Regiment
o 305th Air Assault battalion - Djakarta
o 306th Air Assault battalion - Kuala Lumpur
o 407th Air Assault battalion - Sulawesi
o 408th Air Assault battalion - Medan
o 101st Fixed Air Defense battalion - Djakarta
o 102nd Fixed Air Defense battalion - Singapore
o 203rd Fixed Air Defense battalion - Kuala Lumpur
o 204th Fixed Air Defense battalion - Bandar Seri Begawan
* Kopassus - Special Forces, organized as two brigades of partially mechanized units, and one independent battalion of partially mechanized (the 4th Gurhka Bn)
o 21st Special Forces Group - Djakarta
o 22nd Special Forces Group - Bandar Seri Begawan
o 4th Gurkha Detasemen - Bandar Seri Begawan
* Kodams - Regional garrisons, mostly Category I Infantry units. The Kodams provide internal security and border patrols, and would probably be the first units engaged in combat in the event of an enemy attack. Organized as 7 brigades and 3 independent battalions of Infantry.
o Djakarta Brigade - Western Java
o Singapore Brigade - Singapore
o Malaya Brigade - Near Malaya-Indochina border
o Borneo Brigade - Brunei
o Papau Brigade - Along border with Papua New Guinea
o Palembang Brigade - Southern Sumatra
o Sulawesi Brigade - Island of Sulawesi
o Timor Battalion - Island of East Timor
o Surabaya Battalion - East Java
o Pontianak Battalion - West Borneo, near the catapult launch center
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jjabbott/IndoPage/indo_Army.htm
Ok when the time comes, please fill the forms so the Singapore Air Force and Navy will arrange helicopters, C-130 and ships to help bring them over ok. -
All they have to do is send their poor and unemployed over.......by the ten of thousands........give each one a tyre
Gather them in Batam and/or Bintan and launch them from there.
Human missiles. -
But even if they do have enough Air-lift capability,and ships,their ships are mostly vintage warships,and since as an island,RSAF should have enough time to react by downing the aircrafts both combat and transport,the transport aircraft would most probably be ferrying their Special Forces and air-dropping them unless they are capable of doing what the Israelis did in Operation Jonathan and land at one our air-bases or airport,which is highly unlikely as they will be intercepted.After dealing with the aircrafts,RSAF can simply give a hand to the RSN and take out whatever ships they have sent our way.Indonesia is not a big problem really,as we would have ample time to organise a defence and and offensive operation.
But the bigger problem would be from Malaysia.From Johor,the distance is only across a causeway,even if it was blown up,their LSTs,or what can be over here in like 20mins.Thus,although it is important that we build up our defenses on one area,we must not forget that we are just an island with many "big brothers"around us,some more offensive,the others less offensive.
Just my 2cents
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Wahahahahaha
The nutcase is at it again. Someone call IMH please, before someone hurts himself laughing.
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Like what happen in MY???Originally posted by Fairyland:All they have to do is send their poor and unemployed over.......by the ten of thousands........give each one a tyre
Gather them in Batam and/or Bintan and launch them from there.
Human missiles.
If it is so easy to smuggle the illegals to SG, SG will be swamped with illegals just like MY!!!
You dun see that happening in SG right?
If you have read ST today, there is estimated 2 millions illegals in MY!!!
That is what I called "human missiles"!!!!!
If TNI would like to land a few div in MY via sampans, they could start doing within a month or two and start surprise attacks all over MY and take the entire MY govt as hostages !!!! -
Wah that funny....well should be, coming from a nutcase.
No smuggling involved. In fact they will do it in broad daylight, call CNN, BBC, CCTV etc. The pressure on our response military or otherwise will be immense. Shoot and you'll be labelled murderer. Use nets or other 'inhumane' methods will also affect our 'brand name'.
Just like the response in MY today. What can they do really?
I think if they get enough ppl, and do it over a long enough period, it will paralyse Singapore. The resources to collect and dispose of the wash up bodies alone would be worst than SARS.
Then you have to setup a cordon, those caught will need shelter and food. So many ppl with nothing to do.....
Meanwhile tourist dollars down the drain......the tense political situation also will take away investor confidence, EDB will miss their target for that year.
It will be very painful......at the least.
I think the logistics to mount such an operation is much much easier than a full scale military assault. Of course the military stay alive for the final blow.
As long as we Singapore and Indonesia maintain a win win situation....it shouldn't have to come to that.
Anyway try not to laugh too hard.
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What talking u????Originally posted by Fairyland:Wah that funny....well should be, coming from a nutcase.
No smuggling involved. In fact they will do it in broad daylight, call CNN, BBC, CCTV etc. The pressure on our response military or otherwise will be immense. Shoot and you'll be labelled murderer. Use nets or other 'inhumane' methods will also affect our 'brand name'.
Just like the response in MY today. What can they do really?
I think if they get enough ppl, and do it over a long enough period, it will paralyse Singapore. The resources to collect and dispose of the wash up bodies alone would be worst than SARS.
Then you have to setup a cordon, those caught will need shelter and food. So many ppl with nothing to do.....
Meanwhile tourist dollars down the drain......the tense political situation also will take away investor confidence, EDB will miss their target for that year.
It will be very painful......at the least.
I think the logistics to mount such an operation is much much easier than a full scale military assault. Of course the military stay alive for the final blow.
As long as we Singapore and Indonesia maintain a win win situation....it shouldn't have to come to that.
Anyway try not to laugh too hard.
Anyway try not to laugh too hard.
Who said shoot them, are u telling me that we can't arrest illegal intrusion using sampans or swim using kiddy floats???
The police coast guards has been arresting them for years for illegal immigrants and/or contrabands!!!!
And they are doing a good job for years.
Do you know those snakehead actually forced those illegal to swim instead of sending them all the way to the coast becos the SG's coast guards efficiency?
That tell us how good our current system that is in place.
And we have all the rights to shoot at them if they try to resist arrest and all within our law and int'l law and all shown on TV even in Media Corp News before.
So who is complaining?!? You???
Every boats or sampans captured will be confiscated and destroyed, they send 100 , we will destroyed 100!!!
Eventually how many could they send?!?
And this boats/sampans cost money???
If the Indon what to waste money on us, then keep on sending them,
see who will last longer, certainly not Indon with their economical situation.
As for MY, they could not detect them , let alone arrest them!!!
In fact two million illegals in MY almost make 10% of the entire MY population, a new minority group!!!
And almot 13 times that of MAF!!!
If they all armed, they could overrun MY!!!! -
2 million indonesians = 100% of chinese population in singapore 20 years ago.
I studied abit of singapore before coming here -
Shut Up SBSK ! even come back as another nick , you also want to be a damn japanese traitor, your ancestor will roll in their grave !!!Originally posted by KenzoNakamichi:2 million indonesians = 100% of chinese population in singapore 20 years ago.
I studied abit of singapore before coming here -
if there's a war in singapore.
SBSK will be a malaysia traitor as well
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So ?? what's your point?Originally posted by KenzoNakamichi:2 million indonesians = 100% of chinese population in singapore 20 years ago.
I studied abit of singapore before coming here
Are there two millions illegal immigrants in SG???
Even 1000% means nothing becos they are not in SG!!!!
Can't say same thing for MY!!! -
Indonesia doesnt need to send its troop to singapore,, Just declare war is enough to destroy singapore economy and make all singaporean panic, Singapore is a small country,,, brothers how to you hide,,, all the investors will run away... apply SUNzi art of war,,Originally posted by Fairyland:All they have to do is send their poor and unemployed over.......by the ten of thousands........give each one a tyre
Gather them in Batam and/or Bintan and launch them from there.
Human missiles.
How Indonesia win the battle:
1. Declare war
2. Burn forest in the border islands. To so singapore plane cant take off..SINGAPOREAN CANT BREATH
3. Desploy army in the border
4 Wait for 5 years until singapore economic destroy...because all investor will run away
5 Attack singapore ships in malaca strait.
6 After 5 years... singapore will be defeated, Indo win withou fight
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Conversely, Singapore can beat Indonesia in just one easy step:
1) Pull out investment from Batam and Bintan. -
If you want to make any vs threads, pls do so in other forums such as world armed forces forums. We do not encourage such threads over here in sgforums.
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+1 here first....
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This "wenhaikho" must be a Malaysian, becos they could go so low & pathetic!!!
Becos of the incident over waters near Borneo, MY is been attacked at all front by the Indonesian.
Either on the web, and even some of the internet sites , constantly been defaced even after every "repair".
MY have practically all kind of dispute to all it's neighbours that hell found themselves totally alone in the situation.
Summary of Malaysia's conflicts with neighbouring states:
- Brunei;
over Limbang salient,a wedge of jungle dividing the Brunei sultanate in two. Resolution of overlapping claims in the South China is awaited.
Gunboat diplomacy has been demonstrated by MY over disputed waters.
- Indonesia;
over the Sipadan and Ligitan islands in the Sulawesi Sea. Resolved by ICJ
Now over water near Ambalat island.
- The Philippines;
over the State of Sabah. The Philippines and Malaysia also have conflicting claims to islands in the Spratleys and over parts of their maritime boundary. The Turtle islands issues has been resolved diplomatically.
- Singapore;
over Pedra Branca in the Singapore Straits.
- Thailand;
over demarcation of some areas on the Thai-Malaysian border and border crossing terrorist activities;
- Spratleys chains
Malaysia's claim to islands and atolls in the Spratleys chains conflicts with those of China, Taiwan and Vietnam.
With such friendly neighbourness with all her's neighbour, what do you expect??? -
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shut up SBSKOriginally posted by wenhaikho:Indonesia doesnt need to send its troop to singapore,, Just declare war is enough to destroy singapore economy and make all singaporean panic, Singapore is a small country,,, brothers how to you hide,,, all the investors will run away... apply SUNzi art of war,,
How Indonesia win the battle:
1. Declare war
2. Burn forest in the border islands. To so singapore plane cant take off..SINGAPOREAN CANT BREATH
3. Desploy army in the border
4 Wait for 5 years until singapore economic destroy...because all investor will run away
5 Attack singapore ships in malaca strait.
6 After 5 years... singapore will be defeated, Indo win withou fight
7 fantastic,,