A-bomb inventor in fact drew inspiration from Bagavat Gita!
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http://www.atributetohinduism.com/quotes21_40.htm
Julius Robert Oppenheimer (1904-1967) Scientist, philosopher, bohemian, and radical. A theoretical physicist and the Supervising Scientist for the Manhattan Project, the developer of the atomic bomb. Graduating from Harvard University, he traveled to Cambridge University to study at the Cavendish Laboratory.
Oppenheimer acquired a deeper knowledge of the Bhagavad Gita in 1933 when, as a young professor of physics, he studied Sanskrit with Professor Arthur W Ryder (1877-193
at Berkeley.
The Gita, Oppenheimer excitedly wrote to his brother Frank Oppenheimer, was “very easy and quite marvelous”.
(source: Robert Oppenheimer Letters and Recollections - By Alice K Smith and Charles Weiner p. 165).
Later he called the Gita “the most beautiful philosophical song existing in any known tongue.” He kept a well worn copy of it conveniently on hand on the bookshelf closest to his desk and often gave the book to friends as a present.
(source: The Story of J Robert Oppenheimer - By Denise Royal St. Martin's Press New York 1969 p. 54).
He continued to browse in it while directing the bomb laboratory. After President Franklin Roosevelt’s death in 1945, Oppenheimer spoke at a memorial service at Los Alamos and he quoted a passage from the Gita. In later years, too, he would look back on the Bhagavad Gita as one of the most important influences in his life.
In 1963, Christian Century magazine (May 15, 1963 p. 647) asked Oppenheimer to list the ten books that “did most to shape your vocational attitude and your philosophy of life” It is significant that two of the ten works that Oppenheimer claimed as most influential were Indian (The Bhagavad Gita and Bhartrihari's Satakatrayam) and a third, The Waste Land by T S Eliot, alluded to the Hindu Scriptures, The Upanishads and The Bhagavad Gita and concluded with a Sanskrit incantation: Shantih, Shantih, Shantih.”
He said:
"Access to the Vedas is the greatest privilege this century may claim over all previous centuries."
He wrote:
"The general notions about human understanding… which are illustrated by discoveries in atomic physics are not in the nature of things wholly unfamiliar, wholly unheard of or new. Even in our own culture they have a history, and in Buddhist and Hindu thought a more considerable and central place. What we shall find [in modern physics] is an exemplification, an encouragement, and a refinement of old wisdom."
In this context it is worth emphasizing that India’s contribution of Buddhism to China (and other countries of the region) is by no means insubstantial. These civilizations would hardly exist without the Indian contribution in all aspects of culture— from science and technology, the arts, philosophy and spirituality.
(source: India as a Creative Civilization - By N. S. Rajaram).
Oppenheimer described the thoughts that passed through his mind when he witnessed the first atomic test explosion.
" If the radiance of a thousand suns
Were to burst at once into the sky,
That would be like the splendor of the Mighty One...
I am become Death,
The shatterer of Worlds."
As the gigantic nuclear cloud mushroomed up to the stratosphere followed by a doomsday roar, Oppenheimer continued with the verses in which the Mighty One reveals Himself:
"Death am I, cause of destruction of the worlds, matured and set out to gather in the worlds there" - (Bhagavad Gita XI 12-32).
(source: A Survey of Hinduism - By Klaus K. Klostermaier. State University of New York Press. 1994. pg 109-110. The Eye of Shiva: Eastern Mysticism And Science - By Amaury de Riencourt p. 14). For more refer to chapter on GlimpsesX).
Then and there, Oppenheimer symbolized a most extraordinary conjunction - the juxtaposition of Western civilization's most terrifying scientific achievement with the most dazzling description of the mystical experience given to us by the Bhagavad Gita, India's greatest literary monument.
Oppenheimer's spontaneous conjunction of a Hindu mystical poem with a nuclear explosion was of great symbolic significance. Nowhere in Western literature could he have found an almost clinical description of mystical rapture that also fits the description of a nuclear explosion in the outer world.
(source: The Eye of Shiva: Eastern Mysticism And Science - By Amaury de Riencourt p. 14). For more refer to chapter on GlimpsesX).
"The general notions about human understanding...which are illustrated by discoveries in atomic physics are not in the nature of things wholly unfamiliar, wholly unheard of, or new. Even in our own culture, they have a history, and in Buddhist and Hindu thought a more considerable and central place. What we shall find is an exemplification, an encouragement, and a refinement of old wisdom." -
Now u naysayers out there, this are the words of the inventor himself..now do u realise how advanced ancient India is?
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and I also see that pride led to their downfall apparently, if you're ANYTHING to go by
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quote from the text:
n this context it is worth emphasizing that India’s contribution of Buddhism to China (and other countries of the region) is by no means insubstantial. These civilizations would hardly exist without the Indian contribution in all aspects of culture— from science and technology, the arts, philosophy and spirituality. -
u have a racial inferiority complex don't u?
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Place a well-cleaned copper plate in an earthenware vessel.
Cover it first by copper sulfate and then moist sawdust.
After that put a mercury-amalgamated-zinc sheet on top of
an energy known by the twin name of Mitra-Varuna. Water will
be split by this current into Pranavayu and Udanavayu. A
chain of one hundred jars is said to give a very active
and effective force."
ÄÄ Agastya Samhita
(Indian Princes' Library)
By the way, MITRA-VARUNA is now called cathode-anode, and Pranavayu
and Udanavayu are to us oxygen and hydrogen. This document again
demonstrates the presence of electricity in the East, long, long
ago. In the not so distant past strange events are recorded in
Europe's past.
one nail in yr coffin..this is an excerpt from an ancient text..and thios is where all modern devices u see now were copied from..Goodbye -
Originally posted by MunnaBhai_MBBS:
and this is how u expect to argue? pleaseeeeeee. much as I have an open mind regarding the things said in the documents, it's your style of argument that irks and makes me WANT to think it's all hogwash. The fact that I've not sdaid anything yet on other posts is because I do believe that the articles may be true, but u're going on like some Prissy Prima Donna. "ohhhh yada yada.. goodbye. oooohhhh my hand hurts... ohhh...."
[b]Place a well-cleaned copper plate in an earthenware vessel.
Cover it first by copper sulfate and then moist sawdust.
After that put a mercury-amalgamated-zinc sheet on top of
an energy known by the twin name of Mitra-Varuna. Water will
be split by this current into Pranavayu and Udanavayu. A
chain of one hundred jars is said to give a very active
and effective force."
ÄÄ Agastya Samhita
(Indian Princes' Library)
one nail in yr coffin..this is an excerpt from an ancient text..and thios is where all modern devices u see now were copied from..Goodbye[/b]
someone who is presenting something they know to be true would present the facts and arguments once, and then leave it with dignity to the target audiance to judge for themselves if it was true. u just keep going on and on like u have some inferiority race complex and feel the need to constantly try to prove more to yourself that your race is superior. u want a good tip? here u go:
LEARN TO BE DIGNIFIED -
*Rolls ont he floor and laughs!!!*
U wanted proof?.....There;s the proof....Warning: dont try it at home -
proof? I don't want proof. I want some people to stop acting like that have a inferiority complex about their race.
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U are very very wrong my friend, I have superiority complex, only u have inferiority complex which is why u want to discredit, discriminate and ask for proof and suchOriginally posted by HENG@:proof? I don't want proof. I want some people to stop acting like that have a inferiority complex about their race. -
the ancient text clearly desribes how to get electricity out of water and jars..the sort of things u will expect in acient times..and fast forward to present times..the anode or cathode crap u see now..Now How do u know if Einstein didnt get his ideas from these ancient text? how did u know if Eitnstein, Edison, Tesla didnt try that at home and passed it off as his own invention?
How to do that, just replace the jars with fancy looking metal boxes and Viola! u get electricity - proud invention of Tesla -
once again, blind man(READ), I don't ask for proof. I'm not interested in proof. If i were, I wouldn't believe in the paranormal and in the extraterrestrial.Originally posted by MunnaBhai_MBBS:U are very very wrong my friend, I have superiority complex, only u have inferiority complex which is why u want to discredit, discriminate and ask for proof and such
someone who has superiority complex would simply sit there smugly feeling knowingly superior. they don't have to keep talking about the same thing over and over again to show they are superiority. u clearly have inferiority complex, no matter how hard u deny it or think otherwise. and oh, u'll probably try to throw the argument back at me by saying what i just said makes me the one with an inferiority complex. but hey, its ok. Thats what people with inferiority complexes do. then again now that i've said it, u won't do it, simply because your inferiority complex won't allow u to do what i've predicted u would do. either way, u still can't deny it. -
Going to eat now..ouch my hand hurts again
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point provenOriginally posted by MunnaBhai_MBBS:Going to eat now..ouch my hand hurts again
*points and laughs at prissy prima donna* -
its of no use arguing with Bhai.As i have already pointed out, he has all his points covered and is making fun of uOriginally posted by HENG@:point proven
*points and laughs at prissy prima donna*
As i notice it seems that Bhai has always the upper hand.It works this way
Bhai posts article
someone ridicles him
Bhai waits for the attack and then counters it
someone again goes off topic and gets personal
Bhai ridicules the person
In the End u guys could not disprove Bhai's theory and he walks away happily. How? cause Bahi has something to prove with all that articles - u guys cant disprove those articles are false.Now those scientists havent been able to anyway
Last but not least, those artivcles Bhai posted were already scientific journals published by the community and they are the first proof u have.So all these proof asking are by people who dont understand what they are reading.They assume that those articles were written by Bhai himself, so much how much more dumber than that can u get?
2) As already stated these were scientific joirnals and articles, so if are not going to believe them, then u dont have to believe in science itself which all the respect u give to science?
And just a small favour, Bhai isnt wrong in calling Singaporeans dumb.When all that mind numbingly long articles of proof are posted by him, some still ask where were they? -
upper hand? oh i didn't know u get the upper hand by acting a prissy. or is it that certain cretins think in this manner?Originally posted by Chewbacca:its of no use arguing with Bhai.As i have already pointed out, he has all his points covered and is making fun of u
As i notice it seems that Bhai has always the upper hand.It works this way
Bhai posts article
someone ridicles him
Bhai waits for the attack and then counters it
someone again goes off topic and gets personal
Bhai ridicules the person
In the End u guys could not disprove Bhai's theory and he walks away happily. How? cuase Bahi has something to prove with all that articles - u guys cant disprove those articles are false.Now those scientists havent been able to anyway
And just a small favour, Bhai isnt wrong in calling Singaporeans dumb.When all that mind numbingly long articles of proof are posted by him, some still ask where were they?
now i know its not nice to pick on race, but i think u 2 make your race look bad. -
i do not wish to offend anyone, but what about all the other posts on Bangla and such? arent they unethical? so these people in fact have some kind of complex that they are superior? in wat way may i ask? Look , if a bangla is going to read those things, he will probably slap u with a comment like singapore women are small butts and boobs, eh so what's the big deal?Sure i knew that Bhai has responded in those threads with pictures of beautiful bollywood women, yet when he posts in that particular manner, none dares to argue back? Why? So in theory he did get the upperhand, am I correct in saying so?
its a clear indication that what people preach here are what they dont follow and when someone has an upper hand they backout
I do like to add on from my previous post that Archeology works in a differnt manner. What u find is what u get. If someone were to say that he doesnt believe in dinosaur bones that they existed unless u can provide a live one? How do scientist figure out a dinosaur's appearance just by bones? then u start asking for proof? obviously u dont find this type of mentality with scientific community.Debates are presented in a clear and sensible way.Not by dumb Questions and ridculing each other
its the same here . The research on this topic had yielded proof similar to fossils.With archeology, conclusions made by common logic and investigation based on available evidence -
U cant prove these articles are false ..can u?
Prove to me now....Damn ....u pissy moronic clown -
now now... no name calling pls...Originally posted by MunnaBhai_MBBS:U cant prove these articles are false ..can u?
Prove to me now....Damn ....u pissy moronic clown
ok, supposing we cant prove your articles false, can i provide u wif another logic then?
your premise is that indians were a superior race in the annals of history, rite? and becos of the latter premise, your conclusion is that they are still superior today rite?
well, here's another argument:
the Incas were a great civilisation eons ago too, but have since become extinct. following your logic, will indians become extinct too?
btw, the chinese, malays and other races were also a great pple also, but u dun see them blaring their trumpets, do u? -
Originally posted by MunnaBhai_MBBS:
You sure or not?!?
quote from the text:
[b]n this context it is worth emphasizing that India’s contribution of Buddhism to China (and other countries of the region) is by no means insubstantial. These civilizations would hardly exist without the Indian contribution in all aspects of culture— from science and technology, the arts, philosophy and spirituality.[/b]
Chinese civilisation was already well established way before Buddhism was introduced to China.
Ancient civilisation influence eachother and learn from eachother, for example w/o the invention of paper by the Chinese, will any civilisation expand on their science,arts etc.
And Heng, u are right on the inferior complex, you see that in all the forums ,Indian are known to be boostful and at time even make wild claims, for example boostful abt their MKI over most a/c etc.
If you are great, you dun have to advertise, becos others will know. -
Bhai, I've given credit where credit's due. However, you seem to have overlooked the fact that while you've covered the operating principle of the battery, it does not extend to all form of electricity production - what about dynamos?
Unfortunately, the nature of debate is that all you need is one single piece of contrary evidence to disprove something. Speaking as a researcher, I've always found that to be a pain in the arse, but them's the rules. -
ok my dear, since u claim to have a superiority complex, go ask your fellow indians in the IAF how they fared against the Americans in last year's Air Ex. u know, the famous one in which the IAF claimed to beat USAF's F15s. Oh, the IAF's Su30 won on paper alrite, but do u know why they won? go check your facts and then tell me if its worth being proud of it.Originally posted by MunnaBhai_MBBS:U are very very wrong my friend, I have superiority complex, only u have inferiority complex which is why u want to discredit, discriminate and ask for proof and such
Or how's this: go ask the IAF what was the real score when they went up against our F16s during SINDEX 04.
dun bother claiming that the IAF beat RSAF cos there are some of us who know the truth. In fact, I know the deployment Comd personally and if we can still beat the IAF flying SU30, Mirage 2000, and the Mig29 with one hand tied behind our backs, that says alot abt the IAF and your argument, doesnt it?
Go ahead, challenge my arguments, i welcome you... here's a tip: u can try discrediting the deployment Comd who led the RSAF team to a stunning victory against the IAF. -
I once invented a mobile solar powered water heater when i was 11 for a science exhibition......does that make me a superior being for corporate exploitation?
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In the scientific world , itself have already a lot of wild claims/theory based filmsy evidence.Originally posted by Chewbacca:i do not wish to offend anyone, but what about all the other posts on Bangla and such? arent they unethical? so these people in fact have some kind of complex that they are superior? in wat way may i ask? Look , if a bangla is going to read those things, he will probably slap u with a comment like singapore women are small butts and boobs, eh so what's the big deal?Sure i knew that Bhai has responded in those threads with pictures of beautiful bollywood women, yet when he posts in that particular manner, none dares to argue back? Why? So in theory he did get the upperhand, am I correct in saying so?
its a clear indication that what people preach here are what they dont follow and when someone has an upper hand they backout
I do like to add on from my previous post that Archeology works in a differnt manner. What u find is what u get. If someone were to say that he doesnt believe in dinosaur bones that they existed unless u can provide a live one? How do scientist figure out a dinosaur's appearance just by bones? then u start asking for proof? obviously u dont find this type of mentality with scientific community.Debates are presented in a clear and sensible way.Not by dumb Questions and ridculing each other
its the same here . The research on this topic had yielded proof similar to fossils.With archeology, conclusions made by common logic and investigation based on available evidence
Only with more evidences could such claims and theory could be proven.
For example there is a claim that the Chinese actually discovered America in 1421 based on some filmsy evidence, many scientists including Chinese said that the "evidence" does not prove it.
But he actually a earn big fortune by public appearances and by the book he has written on the subject.( maybe that is his point)
Anyway on the subject of what the inferior complexed individual have posted, we have asked more credible sources but till now he did not provide it.
So wild claims are made based on filmsy evidence for financial gains, and in this case here ego!!!!
Think abt it nuclear weapons in ancient time!!!
It will rock the whole world, but let me ask you this, did you hear from somewhere else other from the Indian bloke here???? -
boastful over their MKIs? i recall an article in an Indian newspaper that arising from SINDEX 04, the IAF need not fear PAF's F16s; alluding to the fact that the IAF were beating our F16s in the air. what a joke! the IAF even apologised to RSAF's deployment comd becos they were embarrassed over the fallacious article. gee... i wonder if Mumbai knows the truth....Originally posted by gary1910:And Heng, u are right on the inferior complex, you see that in all the forums ,Indian are known to be boostful and at time even make wild claims, for example boostful abt their MKI over most a/c etc.
ok lar... give him abit of face lar...: to be fair, i would say that the Indians probably are a rising civilisation today (esp in IT), but to rant and rave in this manner while trying to put others down is poor form. remember other races and civilisations are rising as well... let's be fair to all....
Mumbai: to carry on in your manner would only warrant an equally strong response... so pls think carefully...