World Pathfinder Platoon.
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in the past...there was no SG Ranger yet...so they went US..onli when they came back did they start Ranger School out of their experience...guess those rangers were the first ever batch to go for ranger..nowadays....not many would go for US Ranger becos of the presence of SG Ranger....Originally posted by Joshua1975:correct but that was in the past. today CDO need not go local RANGER in order for them to go for the US RANGER.
things change liao.
i think it'd be funny if a non sg ranger CDO would tell his superior that he wanna go Fort Benning for US Ranger...
i guess the most likely reply that will come from the superior would be:
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you sure he a WO? how can he make such mistake? oversea badges is always on the right side.Originally posted by sidestep1984:some wear them all on one sleeve as in the WO that i saw....but i guess in ure case..it'll be a triple deck huh?
US Ranger
SG Ranger
Guards Tab
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its a shoulder tab wat..Originally posted by Joshua1975:you sure he a WO? how can he make such mistake? oversea badges is always on the right side.
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i tink wat u mean are badges...like thai airborne...US Navy spec war badge..and others worn over right chest pocket... -
ROFL... 1st batch retired dun know where liao.
you think, he thought who confirm? 1st batch still around? they sure will F u like nothing, things are set by them and you think they will break it themself.
top soldier "within" the CDO will be going to US for couses and once they are there min they will complete 2 couses or more.
what was say is once you saw "them" with US RANGER you can be sure they had local RANGER but it dun apply today anymore. soldier with big big piece of paper most likely will be selected to go oversea such as US or UK for couses.
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you had only saw a shoulder tab and down here telling ppl? had you ever seen a airborn wing wear on right shoulder b4?Originally posted by sidestep1984:its a shoulder tab wat..
i tink wat u mean are badges...like thai airborne...US Navy spec war badge..and others worn over right chest pocket...
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1st batch of of Rangers were 1978....lets say at that time they were on average 20years old at that time....27 years passed...now they are probably 47 years old and still going strong...Warrants retire abt 55....some earlier but some retire sui sui when they are 55...Originally posted by Joshua1975:ROFL... 1st batch retired dun know where liao.
you think, he thought who confirm? 1st batch still around? they sure will F u like nothing, things are set by them and you think they will break it themself.
top soldier "within" the CDO will be going to US for couses and once they are there min they will complete 2 couses or more.
what was say is once you saw "them" with US RANGER you can be sure they had local RANGER but it dun apply today anymore. soldier with big big piece of paper most likely will be selected to go oversea such as US or UK for couses.
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the remaining ones are probably 5 years away from retiring -
probable and probable. all can go on and probable.
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so there might be possibles rite?Originally posted by Joshua1975:probable and probable. all can go on and probable.
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they might be at the end of their careers too...
anyways..the airborne wing u talking abt must be American paratrooper badge?i was wondering...how they look like anywaes....curious....like 101st or 82nd airborne patches?most things worn on sleeves tend to be patches or tabs....
guess its in how each of the badges are supposed to be worn...like thai or navy spec war is worn on the right chest....tabs are worn on sleeves..
hope i didnt strike a chord with u or something....
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is there only the 101 and the 82? you mean that they are the only airborne unit around?
why not go back to the 1st post and see "they" are from where?
view from inside a well to the outside is just so "big"
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i say like wat...82nd and 101st are among the more popular ones...there is the 173rd.....and others of course from the US....just stated the more popular ones..there are many others from other countries..i just asked how the airbone badge looks like and i gave the 2 airborne divisions as examples cos theyre the more commonly seen ones on the net and the news among other places....the ones u said worn on right sleeve..no need to be so hostile rite..Originally posted by Joshua1975: is there only the 101 and the 82? you mean that they are the only airborne unit around?
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doesnt mean i state 2...i dunno there are many others rite?
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i do a different kind of "pathfinding".Originally posted by wuming78:wats a pathfinder doing at nsc pass office? -
SWO Gunga has a yellow RANGER tab on his right shoulder. that's US ranger right?Originally posted by LazerLordz:Well, he had both.On different sides of the sleeves.
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Yup, that's the US Ranger tab. Thanks for confirming that it's the right shoulder - my memory's gotten rusty, and I couldn't say it for sure.
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I remembered seeing something like a pathfinder badge on my RSM's uniform during NS. Problem with these guys is - the have many badges and may wear different ones on different uniforms. My NS CO had Singapore, US, and German airborne wings, US ranger and German ranger crest. Again - it depends on the uniform he wears. There might be Thai airborne wings and US SF crest somewhere in there too.
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Unless things have changed in the past few years, guys who go for the US Ranger course also attend the Pathfinder course and come back with the tab and the badge.
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i think this remain the same for CDO as when they go for US RANGER, they will do Pathfinder as well but if just PF, no US RANGER.Originally posted by Gedanken:Unless things have changed in the past few years, guys who go for the US Ranger course also attend the Pathfinder course and come back with the tab and the badge.
the later dun happen in CDO at all.
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Just want to share one SWO that I saw during time in the army in the 80s, he was respected by all in the armour formation even by Col becos he was in the pioneer batch armoured trained by the Israeli and was trained oversea!
He usually wore a No3 uniform with all his badges and colour TVs(i.e. medals),
I was awed when the first time I saw him, the reason was becos that his colour TV was actually three story high!!!!!
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everything local on the left. everything foreign on the right. period.Originally posted by sidestep1984:so there might be possibles rite?
they might be at the end of their careers too...
anyways..the airborne wing u talking abt must be American paratrooper badge?i was wondering...how they look like anywaes....curious....like 101st or 82nd airborne patches?most things worn on sleeves tend to be patches or tabs....
guess its in how each of the badges are supposed to be worn...like thai or navy spec war is worn on the right chest....tabs are worn on sleeves..
hope i didnt strike a chord with u or something....
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Originally posted by sidestep1984:so there might be possibles rite?
they might be at the end of their careers too...
anyways..the airborne wing u talking abt must be American paratrooper badge?i was wondering...how they look like anywaes....curious....like 101st or 82nd airborne patches?most things worn on sleeves tend to be patches or tabs....
guess its in how each of the badges are supposed to be worn...like thai or navy spec war is worn on the right chest....tabs are worn on sleeves..
hope i didnt strike a chord with u or something....
anywaes...wat does kthmkk mean?Originally posted by duajia:everything local on the left. everything foreign on the right. period.
thanks for helping, never will i understand why ppl like to drill on things they not sure of.
i mean just go find out if got a point come back and make clear if not just keep shut. -
okay....okay.....Originally posted by Joshua1975:
thanks for helping, never will i understand why ppl like to drill on things they not sure of.
i mean just go find out if got a point come back and make clear if not just keep shut.
well...the one i saw was wearing both on one side...
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back to the topic.....
wonder if US pathfinders, Combat Controller Teams and Tactical Air Control Parties are similar in what they do...
TACP mainly brings Air Support to the army unit which they are attached to...mainly to make sure air strikes hit their intended targets when support is needed..
guess pathfinders can do this as well but more flexibility compared to their USAF counterparts?
Combat Controller Teams are like pathfinders but are instead attached to Special Ops squadrons in the USAF.....
CCT team member on motorcycle during training op.
CCT in full gear
CCT during Airborne Op..
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Theres actually no pathfinder platoon in the U.S military unlike the British military.Originally posted by sidestep1984:back to the topic.....
wonder if US pathfinders, Combat Controller Teams and Tactical Air Control Parties are similar in what they do...
TACPs....
The U.S pathfinders played a more active role during the Vietnam war after that its more like a course.
The only reason one might see a team of U.S pathfinders from the same unit is probably because the unit had alot of soldiers gone through the pathfinder course.
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just to add. the main 'ROLE' of Pathfinder is to operate DZs, LZs, PZs, ASs, BHLZs and Medivac.
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not saying you are wrong, it is still very needed for US to have Pathfinder and almost all of them are in 82nd Airborne Division or more so for the 101st Airborne Division.Originally posted by John Ching:Theres actually no pathfinder platoon in the U.S military unlike the British military.
The U.S pathfinders played a more active role during the Vietnam war after that its more like a course.
The only reason one might see a team of U.S pathfinders from the same unit is probably because the unit had alot of soldiers gone through the pathfinder course.
The British military on the other hand started a pathfinder teams & are still active till current Iraq conflict.
able to deploy the whole division in 18 hours across half the world you required reliable info on the ground you are going in.
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Something on the FRENCH.
French basic Para
CPA 30 patch
The Armée de l’Air’s CPA have a number of tasks including target acquisition, seizure of key points of airports, REDCO, pathfinding and counter-special forces operations. These commandos have recently taken on the same organisation as the RAPAS companies as their previous organisation was deemed to be too clumsy following experience in Central Asian and Europe.
CPA capbadge
The CPA are the cutting edge of the Groupement des Fusiliers Commandos de l'Air which provides the Armée de l'Air with its protection and is equivalent to the navy's Fusiliers-Marins. There are four company sized Commandos, three comprising the 602e RCPA and one attached to the GCC on Beta Canum.